Decalogue- Question on the Ten Commandments

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I’ve noticed that Protestants and Evangelicals seem to number the Ten Commandments differently to Catholics, for example, in discussing the third commandment regarding the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) I was caught off guard by someone assuring me this was actually the fourth commandment. Can anyone shine some light on the discrepancy for me please?
 
I’ve noticed that Protestants and Evangelicals seem to number the Ten Commandments differently to Catholics, for example, in discussing the third commandment regarding the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) I was caught off guard by someone assuring me this was actually the fourth commandment. Can anyone shine some light on the discrepancy for me please?
They aren’t numbered in Scripture. At least, not originally. It was just a continuous section. Or two, really, since they appear in two places.

Versification wasn’t done until - shoot, I used to know this - well, it was into the 2nd millennium, anyway. So no one was given Ten Commandments, people just think of them that way. So there’s no “right” way.
 
I’ve noticed that Protestants and Evangelicals seem to number the Ten Commandments differently to Catholics, for example, in discussing the third commandment regarding the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) I was caught off guard by someone assuring me this was actually the fourth commandment. Can anyone shine some light on the discrepancy for me please?
Not a direct answer to your question, but FYI, the correct translation of the Ten Commandments is the Ten Statements or Ten Words according to the language of the Torah itself. And each statement, consisting of both positive and negative words, is more of a general category which is elaborated upon in the 613 “commandments.”
 
I’ve noticed that Protestants and Evangelicals seem to number the Ten Commandments differently to Catholics, for example, in discussing the third commandment regarding the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) I was caught off guard by someone assuring me this was actually the fourth commandment. Can anyone shine some light on the discrepancy for me please?
Notice how they lump the wife in with property, cf Tinker v. Colwell
 
Not a direct answer to your question, but FYI, the correct translation of the Ten Commandments is the Ten Statements or Ten Words according to the language of the Torah itself. And each statement, consisting of both positive and negative words, is more of a general category which is elaborated upon in the 613 “commandments.”
Don’t you mean the ha’Torah hamizwat Adonai? 😉

The English name “Decalogue” (as I titled this post) is derived from the Greek translation δέκα λόγους deka logous “ten terms”, found in the Septuagint (or LXX) at Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 10:4.

I realise that in biblical Hebrew, the Ten Commandments are called עשרת הדברים (transliterated Asereth ha-D’bharîm) and in Rabbinical Hebrew עשרת הדברות (transliterated Asereth ha-Dibroth), both translatable as “the ten words”, “the ten sayings” or “the ten matters”, but as Catholics we tend to use the LXX or the Vulgate. The LXX is where we get the deuterocanonicals which were struck from the Jewish canon of Scripture at the council of Jamnia in 100 AD.
 
Don’t you mean the ha’Torah hamizwat Adonai? 😉

The English name “Decalogue” (as I titled this post) is derived from the Greek translation δέκα λόγους deka logous “ten terms”, found in the Septuagint (or LXX) at Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 10:4.

I realise that in biblical Hebrew, the Ten Commandments are called עשרת הדברים (transliterated Asereth ha-D’bharîm) and in Rabbinical Hebrew עשרת הדברות (transliterated Asereth ha-Dibroth), both translatable as “the ten words”, “the ten sayings” or “the ten matters”, but as Catholics we tend to use the LXX or the Vulgate. The LXX is where we get the deuterocanonicals which were struck from the Jewish canon of Scripture at the council of Jamnia in 100 AD.
You got me there: thanks for the information. But even the Septuagint and the Vulgate do not translate these sayings as commandments, do they?
 
You got me there: thanks for the information. But even the Septuagint and the Vulgate do not translate these sayings as commandments, do they?
HaTorah hamizwat Adonai = the Law and the precepts of the LORD: the 613 commandments.

The LXX is in Greek, so as described in my last post, the Vulgate translates it as:

Fuit ergo ibi cum Domino quadraginta dies et quadraginta noctes; panem non comedit et aquam non bibit et scripsit in tabulis verba foederis, decem verba.” decem verba = ten words.

I think it would be fair to say in common parlance in English, if you said “Ten Commandments” everyone would assume you were talking about the ten words or decalogue.
 
I’ve noticed that Protestants and Evangelicals seem to number the Ten Commandments differently to Catholics, for example, in discussing the third commandment regarding the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) I was caught off guard by someone assuring me this was actually the fourth commandment. Can anyone shine some light on the discrepancy for me please?
Simple answer: most Protestants and the Eastern Churches use the numbering system used by 1st century Jewish writers Philo and Josephus (the Philonic), Catholics and Lutherans use the one devised by St. Augustine (the Augustinian), and modern Jews use the one found in rabbinic literature (the Talmudic).
 
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