Defending Heterosexual Marriage: Did you hear Melissa Ethridge's comments?

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dad_o_six said:
The homosexual political agenda involves a minority attempting to impose its will upon a majority, even in California. No one–well, almost no one–is trying to change their behavior or disrespect their choices. But the voters clearly want to be able to have their own opinions and innate aversion to homosexuality. But the 60’s agenda will continue to argue ferociously and stack the cards in their favor. Melissa Ethridge will get her way. Meanwhile, we Christians never seem to stand up for ourselves.

I’m beginning to wonder if we, as Christians, are being too nice. We can beat them at their own game. But we don’t.
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The gays, however, have convinced the elites and elites think they have a natural right to rule.
 
I believe a more powerful message if the Gospel of Love. Live a life of charity and love towards all. Community service and an outward expression of love towards gays and lesbians. What are the issues they deal with other than a sexual union that the Church can show great charity in. An AIDS March / fair employment for all, including gays, etc. The Gospel challenges us to love our neighbor, though sinful. God will triumph. We are asked to try.
 
michael_quinlan said:
What would constitute enough of a depth of love to be sincere?
51% or does it need to be a passing grade of 70%?
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For marriage and children the standard is 100%, so if your guy is only 51% or even 70% to his spouse and children he really is not married by church standards. He is a fornicator hiding issues from others. Do you think his wife knew he would love her part time but not all the time?
 
Texas_Roofer said:
For marriage and children the standard is 100%, so if your guy is only 51% or even 70% to his spouse and children he really is not married by church standards. He is a fornicator hiding issues from others. Do you think his wife knew he would love her part time but not all the time?
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why do you think his love is part-time because he is also attracted to men?
 
michael_quinlan said:
why do you think his love is part-time because he is also attracted to men?
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When does he have time to be attracted to men? He could send his wife to bed alone, or skip birthday parties, soccer games, etc. Or simply move in a man and have his wife live in the basement. I knew a man who left his family and lived with another man in the country. I bet his kids lived in fear other children would know why mom was divorced. In his mind his children had no problem, everybody knew. Children should be raised by dedicated parents.
 
I think you are confusing attraction with sex. Many people are bisexual. In any given day a person who is bisexual will notice a handsome guy at the mall though his arm is around his wife and he is holding his young son’s hand. On the TV, magazine, street, office, church, etc.
 
michael_quinlan said:
I think you are confusing attraction with sex. Many people are bisexual. In any given day a person who is bisexual will notice a handsome guy at the mall though his arm is around his wife and he is holding his young son’s hand. On the TV, magazine, street, office, church, etc.
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And his wife, child, pastor, parents, co-workers, etc, etc, will see that. His wife will be hurt by it and his child confused. All will wonder if one day he will leave.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
And his wife, child, pastor, parents, co-workers, etc, etc, will see that. His wife will be hurt by it and his child confused. All will wonder if one day he will leave.
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So much for Kinsey. What do you suggest, a desert island?
 
michael_quinlan said:
Hate the sin, love the sinner is what I was always taught. But then again, shortly after homosexuality was declared intrinsically evil by Pope John Paul II, a young man was shot, wrapped in barbed wire, and left to bleed to death, alone in the dark in Wyoming for having made a pass at another man. I don’t think this is in line with WWJD.
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They were all high on meth at the time, and were not unaquainted.
 
michael_quinlan said:
Hate the sin, love the sinner is what I was always taught. But then again, shortly after homosexuality was declared intrinsically evil by Pope John Paul II, a young man was shot, wrapped in barbed wire, and left to bleed to death, alone in the dark in Wyoming for having made a pass at another man. I don’t think this is in line with WWJD.
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    Perhaps, we need to reverse the saying.........

    LOVE the SINNER, hate the sin.  If we put more attention on the love aspect maybe less people will end up wrapped in barbed wire.

    So in other words, let remember we are to love gays and lesbians and invite them to the banquet of the Lord.  For God does not make junk and we are all children of God to be loved and revered as such.
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Perhaps you are not being fully clear on the message of JPII. Homosexuality may be an evil, but I do not think people with same-sex attraction are necessarily sinful. This is talked about extensively by Pope Benedict. Just like if someone had a mental illness, that wouldn’t be their fault necessarily.

As for the question of whether “bisexual” men should be allowed to marry, I think there are a lot of hardliners in this group, which you will often find. It’s good and right to speak the truth, but the truth must also be for everyone. It’s easy for me to say as a 100% heterosexual guy to set a very high standard for marriage. But then we fail to realize that perhaps people struggle with certain issues.

I’m sure there are men who are good Catholics who may have some same-sex attraction, as well as attraction to the opposite sex. Now, if these men do their best to live a good holy life that is in accordance with natural law, etc. I don’t think we can fault them for that. So, I think if a man is committed to his wife, despite his same-sex attraction, and he loves his wife and is attracted to her, then he should be allowed to marry. I think this is what the Pope would teach as well.

This is no different than if a man may have some symptoms of schizophrenia, but who does everything in his power to live a decent and peaceful life, and HAS so far. We cannot say he shouldn’t be allowed to live free in society because there isn’t a 100% chance that he will act peacefully like other people.
 
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