Defending modesty

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How does one defend the Christian virtue of modesty against people who associate the concept with burkas and Islamic extremists?
 
By pointing out that burkhas etc. have nothing to do, actually, with the virtue of modesty. That modesty does not mean ‘covering up flesh’ as though the flesh were inherently sinful. . .some cultural groups where women routinely walk around with bared breasts are not ‘immodest’ in that those female breasts are seen as ‘non sexual’ just as much as the typical male ‘chest’, bared, is seen as ‘non sexual’ by the majority of people.

By pointing out that jumping to conclusions on one groups extreme ‘reaction’ to a multifaceted cultural perception does not define ‘modesty’, itself.

By pointing out that culturally and historically modesty- the virtue of perceiving one’s physical AND spirital self as a temple of God, and by attempting to live, physically and spiritually, as such has never been the provenance of “islamic extremists” (or any other extremists) and that those who present it as such are not only mistaken but are actually actively contributing to a culture of immodesty and immorality by their misdirection.

No one thinks that eating JUST a ‘junk food diet’ is healthy, right? But to advocate that ‘healthy eating’ means ONLY eating a vegetarian, vegan, ‘colonic cleansing’, juicing, grapefruit, South Beath, low carb, Atkin’s, etc. diet, even though these things may contain a LOT of ‘healthy eating’ or have a degree of the concept of healthy eating ‘right’ is the same kind of extremism as portraying “modesty” as being ONLY ‘burkhas’.

But we aren’t saying that we should just give up on healthy eating because there are extremes, right? So why should we give up on the idea of “modesty” because of the perceptions of some extremists, and the misreading of those perceptions by others?
 
no need to wear a veil, just choose clothing that does not reveal what we call private parts when you sit, stand or bend over. Is that asking a lot? the outer clothing should not permit others to discern what brand and style of undergarments you are wearing, and private body parts should not protrude or be in danger of falling out of the garment. It would be a very nice thing to be able to walk into a woman’s clothing store and emerge with a few outfits suitable for professional wear, for those of us whose professions are not in the fashion, porn or prostitution industries.
 
Remember the four B’s - We don’t want to see any:

Butts
Bellies
Boobs
Behinds
 
My grandmother always said a female should wear clothes that are tight enough to show that she’s a woman, but loose enough to show that she’s a lady.

Someone else once said that for the most part, the amount of skin a female shows is inversely related to her rank and importance in society.
 
Liberanosamalo said:
My grandmother always said a female should wear clothes that are tight enough to show that she’s a woman, but loose enough to show that she’s a lady.

Someone else once said that for the most part, the amount of skin a female shows is inversely related to her rank and importance in society.
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Thats a good one!
 
As a man, the older I get, the more I see there’s a contradiction in our society: women are supposed to be modest, but at the same time are raised and encouraged to display their BODIES (as if their bodies were some kind of treasure in themselves, not necessarily connected to the person).
 
I’m 25 years old, and other then a few attempts at crop tops when I was about 14, I’ve always been a modest dresser and that seems to confuse some people. A question I get alot, especially this time of the year, is why don’t I wear shorts. And the answer is simple - when they start making shorts that have actual legs instead of just two holes and a crotch, I’ll start wearing them again. I’ll wear boxer shorts to bed because they have legs.

My general rule of the thumb is if I have to pull it down I probably shouldn’t have put it on. I also like to keep my boobs and butt covered, which seems to be the opposite from most young women my age. If I have to worry about something falling out when I bend over, then I don’t wear it.

Honestly, I’m disgusted by alot of things I see teenage girls in now a days. You can be just as pretty in a knee length skirt as you can be in a skirt that you can’t bend over in. I wish our girls that are growing up would realize that true beauty comes from personality and confidence. And to have confidence, you need to feel good about yourself and cheapening yourself by being immodest is not going to help your ego because it’s negative attention.

I hope by the time I have a daughter things have changed! If not, I’m going to be very glad I know how to sew.
 
Tantum_ergo said:
the typical male ‘chest’, bared, is seen as ‘non sexual’ by the majority of people.
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I’m not typical and i wonder if any women find a man’s bare chest somewhat sexual? I’m homosexual and 53 but i still have to look away at the sight of a fit man’s bare chest. Not all modesty is about how women dress. Men have to live it too. Don’t get me started on tight jeans on guys.

Trying to live chaste by the grace of God,
Joseph

PS. RhyannaRose, you said a lot there too. Good you can sew.
 
I agree with the above poster about women being able to look fine in a knee length skirt.

In fact, this morning, I looked across the way and saw a young woman bending over a potted plant. She was wearing those hideous short-back pants/shorts that let women show off their butt cleavage or some such marketing notion. It was ill-inspiring. Just icky. Just really the very opposite of sexy. God knows why the Mexican hooker look got popular; I don’t.
 
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