Definition of Marriage?

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Beaver:
Then you must be in hell, let the rest of know what is like.
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:hmmm: where did you get the idea that I was in Hell or a loveless marriage? Did I say those words??? Perhaps it may be best not to ASSume things.
 
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:hmmm: where did you get the idea that I was in Hell or a loveless marriage? Did I say those words??? Perhaps it may be best not to ASSume things.
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No, but you did say love was not required. I realize that a lot of people are in lustfull relationships.
 
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Beaver:
Then you must be in hell, let the rest of know what is like.
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Yeah. That was just about the most random comment I have ever seen on these boards. :confused:
 
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Beaver:
Love is a requirement. Lust is the opposite of love and the best definition of hell to be found.
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We can look at relationships that have no love, yet are named marriage. Therefore, love is not a requirement for a relationship to be named marriage.

Love may be a requirement for some particular relationships that are called marriage, but it s not a requirement for all relationships that are called marriage.
 
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Karin:
so you ASSumed it applied to my marriage?!?!?!
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Yes, I am sorry. The point is that love is a requirement. As Webster has put it, lust drives marriage, not love, any wonder lustfull relationship are thought of as marriage.
 
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Aquarius:
We can look at relationships that have no love, yet are named marriage. Therefore, love is not a requirement for a relationship to be named marriage.

Love may be a requirement for some particular relationships that are called marriage, but it s not a requirement for all relationships that are called marriage.
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As far as god is concerned love is a requirement for marriage
 
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Aquarius:
Neither love not lust are requirements for a relationship to be named marriage.
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You keep saying this but can you explain yourself?

I think it is clear that you are some kind of secular humanist / moral relativist.

A person can’t possibly have faith in Christ and say something things you have said.
 
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Beaver:
Yes, I am sorry. The point is that love is a requirement. As Webster has put it, lust drives marriage, not love, any wonder lustfull relationship are thought of as marriage.
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They are thought of as marriage because there is a wide variety of relationships called marriage. A marriage can be based on love, lust. greed, hate, power, curiosity, property, family honor, economics, money, religion, etc. It can be intended to last one day or one lifetime. It can be between opposite sexes or the same sex. Young or old. All these relationships are named marriage.

The language lumps everything together under one name. Any meaningful discussion of requirements needs some qualification.
 
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JamesG:
As far as god is concerned love is a requirement for marriage
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If years later there is no love it is still a marriage unless their was another impedment on the day of marriage.
 
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JamesG:
As far as god is concerned love is a requirement for marriage
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The church had no problem with arranged marriages in which the bride and groom didn’t even know each other. Most cultures had them. Many still do.
 
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Aquarius:
They are thought of as marriage because there is a wide variety of relationships called marriage. A marriage can be based on love, lust. greed, hate, power, curiosity, property, family honor, economics, money, religion, etc. It can be intended to last one day or one lifetime. It can be between opposite sexes or the same sex. Young or old. All these relationships are named marriage.

The language lumps everything together under one name. Any meaningful discussion of requirements needs some qualification.
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How does one base a marriage on hate?

Can your provide us with examples of valid relationships that are based on hate? The relationship between the Nazis and the Jews perhaps.

I’m sorry but some of the things you say are just not rational.
 
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Aquarius:
The church had no problem with arranged marriages in which the bride and groom didn’t even know each other. Most cultures had them. Many still do.
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Can you provide examples of this?

Can you show us how this is true of the modern church?
 
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JamesG:
You keep saying this but can you explain yourself?

I think it is clear that you are some kind of secular humanist / moral relativist.

A person can’t possibly have faith in Christ and say something things you have said.
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Webster gave the English definition as best it could.

Let’s do a thought experiment. I can go out to a bar tonight and find someone to whom I will pay $10,000 if they will marry me for one week. At the end of the week we get divorced or get an annulment. That’s all it takes. We will have a marriage for one week. No love, no lust, just money.

One does not have to be either religious or secular to recognize that all it takes to get married is $25 and a trip to the county clerk’s office. It’s very easy. And that is a marriage. That’s what it is called. We use the word marriage.

What I have described is only one of the many permutations of relationships that are named marriage. There are many more. Just look around.
 
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JamesG:
How does one base a marriage on hate?

Can your provide us with examples of valid relationships that are based on hate? The relationship between the Nazis and the Jews perhaps.

I’m sorry but some of the things you say are just not rational.
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The relationship in Who’s Afraid Of Virginia Wolfe might be called a marriage based on hate.

Or one could hate someone so much they marry them and try to ruin their life. This is all called marriage.

People get married in drive through UFO Matrimonial Chapels in Las Vegas. Those are often marriages based on booze.
 
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JamesG:
Can you provide examples of this?

Can you show us how this is true of the modern church?
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Royalty in Europe regularly had arranged marriages approved of by the Church.

I don’t know what the modern church thinks about arranged marriages. I would guess it would call it a valid marriage.
 
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Beaver:
I did not see the word love anywhere in the definition, without it we are discussing lust is icluded by default.
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Can you please provide me with the definition that states love is required for a marriage…and not a made up one either.
 
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Aquarius:
Royalty in Europe regularly had arranged marriages approved of by the Church.

I don’t know what the modern church thinks about arranged marriages. I would guess it would call it a valid marriage.
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This percisely why Webster’s definition is wrong!
 
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