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James224
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Hello Traditional Catholics!
I love the traditional faith and attend the Latin Mass and mostly read traditional spiritual works. Do to certain circumstances, I became interested in these Deliverance Ministries. I’m not really interested in getting active in it but the concepts and prayers. After reading 3 books on it, here’s what I’m seeing: First of all, they are in dioceses under a bishop and under a priest who knows what he’s doing. Some lay people are involved. The big picture is that in this country since the 1960’s, a huge apostasy has taken place in our church and protestant churches. When this happens, God begins to withdraw His grace and this gives rise to to occults. In other words, the devil has become much more active. The devil is still chained but much more active and this effects all of us. They point out that the sacrament of Confession is the powerhouse to break the devil’s power if done with the proper dispostion of our soul. The Examination of Conscience is where discernment takes place regarding our sins. The problem is that if you don’t get to the root of the sins (only numbering them), they are forgiven and we are in sanctifying grace but the opening of the devil is still there and the attacks continue and oppression can occur. They say we should use holy water, blessed images in the home, the St Michael Prayer, the Rosary, etc. They say that Deliverance Ministries focus on the person and discernment of the root causes of sins whereas an exorcism focuses on the devils themselves as in a full blown possession. They say people are liberated and those that are say that, after that, their Confessions are much more fruitful. They say Deliverance is like a sacramental yet very powerful. I’m greatly simplifying all this and leaving out a lot but I was wondering if you have any (name removed by moderator)ut on this? My biggest concern is Deliverance paralleling Confession. The books I’ve read are “Unbound” by Neal Lozano (cousin of Fr Michael Scanlon at Franciscan University of Steubenville), “Resisting the Devil” by Neal Lozano, and “Prayer of a Warrior” by Michael Brown. Prayer of a Warrior is a spiritual conversion autobiography of Michael Brown. All my life I’ve kept myself in very traditional books purchased from Tan Books and PCP, etc. What made me step out of my comfort zone was the apostasy in my family. My brothers,sister and me all go to church and never fell away but almost all our children have fallen away. One even proclaims to be an athiest and goes to the Unitarian Universalist Church (if you want it call it a church!) Right now all I’m doing is using some of the prayers they use. They use the full Leonine Excorcism Prayer which we are allowed to use as an intercessory prayer and others that are very specific in what is being asked concerning deliverance. If the term “Deliverance” sounds protestant (it does to me), consider that the last phrase of the Our Father is “sed libera nos a malo” which means “But DELIVER us from EVIL”.
Any constructive (name removed by moderator)ut would be greatly appreciated.
I love the traditional faith and attend the Latin Mass and mostly read traditional spiritual works. Do to certain circumstances, I became interested in these Deliverance Ministries. I’m not really interested in getting active in it but the concepts and prayers. After reading 3 books on it, here’s what I’m seeing: First of all, they are in dioceses under a bishop and under a priest who knows what he’s doing. Some lay people are involved. The big picture is that in this country since the 1960’s, a huge apostasy has taken place in our church and protestant churches. When this happens, God begins to withdraw His grace and this gives rise to to occults. In other words, the devil has become much more active. The devil is still chained but much more active and this effects all of us. They point out that the sacrament of Confession is the powerhouse to break the devil’s power if done with the proper dispostion of our soul. The Examination of Conscience is where discernment takes place regarding our sins. The problem is that if you don’t get to the root of the sins (only numbering them), they are forgiven and we are in sanctifying grace but the opening of the devil is still there and the attacks continue and oppression can occur. They say we should use holy water, blessed images in the home, the St Michael Prayer, the Rosary, etc. They say that Deliverance Ministries focus on the person and discernment of the root causes of sins whereas an exorcism focuses on the devils themselves as in a full blown possession. They say people are liberated and those that are say that, after that, their Confessions are much more fruitful. They say Deliverance is like a sacramental yet very powerful. I’m greatly simplifying all this and leaving out a lot but I was wondering if you have any (name removed by moderator)ut on this? My biggest concern is Deliverance paralleling Confession. The books I’ve read are “Unbound” by Neal Lozano (cousin of Fr Michael Scanlon at Franciscan University of Steubenville), “Resisting the Devil” by Neal Lozano, and “Prayer of a Warrior” by Michael Brown. Prayer of a Warrior is a spiritual conversion autobiography of Michael Brown. All my life I’ve kept myself in very traditional books purchased from Tan Books and PCP, etc. What made me step out of my comfort zone was the apostasy in my family. My brothers,sister and me all go to church and never fell away but almost all our children have fallen away. One even proclaims to be an athiest and goes to the Unitarian Universalist Church (if you want it call it a church!) Right now all I’m doing is using some of the prayers they use. They use the full Leonine Excorcism Prayer which we are allowed to use as an intercessory prayer and others that are very specific in what is being asked concerning deliverance. If the term “Deliverance” sounds protestant (it does to me), consider that the last phrase of the Our Father is “sed libera nos a malo” which means “But DELIVER us from EVIL”.
Any constructive (name removed by moderator)ut would be greatly appreciated.
