Democrats Tell President Bush: Don't Propose Judges Against Abortion

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Those that voted for the Democrats got what they voted for. How many years has the pro-life movement been set back?
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Democrats Tell President Bush: Don’t Propose Judges Against Abortion
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http://www.lifenews.com/judgepic2.jpgWashington, DC (LifeNews.com) – Now that the elections have given them control of the Senate, leading Democrats on judicial issues have a message for President Bush. They don’t want him to send up for confirmation any judges who would be hostile to legalized abortion or they plan vote down or filibuster them. Democrats now have 51 votes in the Senate and will likely have a slim one vote majority on the Senate Judiciary Committee when Congress starts its new session in January. Though they technically have enough votes on the panel and in the Senate to defeat any Bush judicial pick, they may still have a tough time keeping their caucus together as some moderate Democrats joined a group of Republicans in making sure filibusters weren’t used to hold up nominees. But leading pro-abortion Democrats tell Bush he needs to pick someone without a record opposed to abortion in order to get judges – especially for the Supreme Court – confirmed in their Senate. Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, told Newsday that Bush should nominate only “consensus” nominees. Sen. Charles Schumer, of New York, was more strident and vowed to block any nominee he feels is too extreme on abortion. “We will do everything in our power to see that that happens,” he told Newsday, saying filibusters should be expected. He added that Bush “will have to negotiate with us, because we’ll have the majority.” Read the complete story.
 
As Catholics IMHO we should hang our heads in shame for allowing this to happen. The Catholic vote could have stopped this from happening. But, if we added those that call themselves anti-abortion or pro-life this is a travesty.

We will reap only what we sow and this time it is death to many more children.
 
I am saddened by the news that pro-abortion Democrats won majority of the seats. It is interesting to talk with other Catholics who say that there are other issues besides human life. Really? I don’t think so. All our problems stem from the culture of death-with no value of life. We wonder why a student walks into a school and shoots a principal. No value of life. If these politicans can’t see that they are willing to support murder in the womb, what else will they do. It is so sad that they can’t see that this is a basic, not just Catholic, human right. Remember the right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I will pray for good moral judges. We have GOD on our side!
 
I agree that life and the respect of life is lacking in the world today.

God is on our side.

Yes I believe this. But, I also believe that God allows freewill and will judge us on how we as individuals act,say and present our beliefs to the others around us.
 
Well, Bush still has the ability to nominate whomever he wants. That might allow us to test the alleged pro-life sentiments of some of the new Democrats. The big problem, though, would be getting the nomination out of the Judiciary Committee.
 
MollyF said:
I am saddened by the news that pro-abortion Democrats won majority of the seats.
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There aren’t any other Democrats. Check the top ten donors to the Democratic party and liberal causes. The #1 donor, the largest donor to any political party in American history calls himself an atheist and funds “Catholics for a Free Choice”.

I simply cannot understand Catholics who say they vote for the man and not the party (while always voting Democrat).

The people paying for the party direct the party. There might be one Catholic among the top ten donors. There might be 2 or 3 who describe themselves as Christian. There are none, none, who are pro-life.

Yeah…Christians can vote for Casey. They can vote for who-ever and feel good about themselves. They can pretend they are giving the party the benefit of the doubt and pretend they are advancing life issues.

I’m not fooled by it. I guess many are.
 
MollyF said:
It is interesting to talk with other Catholics who say that there are other issues besides human life. Really? I don’t think so.
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That’s fine, but many Catholics - and more than a few real conservatives - voted Democratic not because they suddenly became pro-abortion, but because of their disgust with how the Administration was running the War, the government, and the nation. How else to get Bush to change what he was doing? Molly, IMO, there were indeed other issues and they had an impact on human life, too.
 
Not as bad as the travisty (sp?) of abortion. 😦
Richardols said:
That’s fine, but many Catholics - and more than a few real conservatives - voted Democratic not because they suddenly became pro-abortion, but because of their disgust with how the Administration was running the War, the government, and the nation. How else to get Bush to change what he was doing? Molly, IMO, there were indeed other issues and they had an impact on human life, too.
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Guns don’t kill people; abortion clinics kill people.
(Bumper sticker seen in western Michigan)
 
Richardols said:
That’s fine, but many Catholics - and more than a few real conservatives - voted Democratic not because they suddenly became pro-abortion, but because of their disgust with how the Administration was running the War, the government, and the nation. How else to get Bush to change what he was doing? Molly, IMO, there were indeed other issues and they had an impact on human life, too.
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Impact on human life? More than abortion? I don’t like a lot of things that Bush is doing, but none of them supercede destroying a human life.
 
I can understand people that are Catholics that do not wish to be part of the Republican political party. But I do not understand how Catholics can be part of the Democratic political party.

So how do we as Catholics affect a change in the US political system? Since no US political party seems to jive totally with Catholic teaching, what can we do as a unified group to put forward those teachings as positive ground work for political policies?

Maybe we need a Catholic Social Justice Party/Candidate (or some other title since whenever “social” is used in a political party it brings ire like the black death).

Are the Catholics that voted for Democratic legislators really happy with the choice? Or are they more happy that the current Administration might be forced to alter its policies in the next 2 years?

Why am I asking so many dang questions?
 
From The 2004 Democratic National Platform for America (pdf file): (accessed from the Democratic Party Web Site)

We will defend the dignity of all Americans against those who would undermine it. Because we believe in the privacy and equality of women, we stand proudly for a woman’s right to choose, consistent with Roe v. Wade, and regardless of her ability to pay. We stand firmly against Republican efforts to undermine that right. At the same time, we strongly support family planning and adoption incentives. Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. (Page 38)

We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush’s divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a “Federal Marriage Amendment.” Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart. (ibid)

President Bush has rejected the calls from Nancy Reagan, Christopher Reeve and Americans across the land for assistance with embryonic stem cell research. We will reverse his wrongheaded policy. Stem cell therapy offers hope to more than 100 million Americans who have serious illnesses – from Alzheimer’s to heart disease to juvenile diabetes to Parkinson’s. We will pursue this research under the strictest ethical guidelines, but we will not walk away from the chance to save lives and reduce human suffering. (Page 31)

If abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and gay marriage are 3 of the top 5 nonnegotiable issues how in Hades does any Catholic vote for or support anyone associated with the US Democratic Party?
 
Richardols said:
That’s fine, but many Catholics - and more than a few real conservatives - voted Democratic not because they suddenly became pro-abortion, but because of their disgust with how the Administration was running the War, the government, and the nation. How else to get Bush to change what he was doing? Molly, IMO, there were indeed other issues and they had an impact on human life, too./quote

I am sure that some who voted for pro-abortion canidates did so to send a message about the war. Unfortunately that message was written in the blood of our children.

However for many this the war was just the latest rationalization to vote for pro-abortion candidates. Many Catholics have been voting for pro-abortion Democrats for years, long before there was a war to complain about and long before we even had a Republicans in control of Congress. For far too many politics trumps Faith, and the children continue to die
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b_justb said:
From The 2004 Democratic National Platform for America (pdf file): (accessed from the Democratic Party Web Site)

We will defend the dignity of all Americans against those who would undermine it. Because we believe in the privacy and equality of women, we stand proudly for a woman’s right to choose, consistent with Roe v. Wade, and regardless of her ability to pay. We stand firmly against Republican efforts to undermine that right. At the same time, we strongly support family planning and adoption incentives. Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. (Page 38)

We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush’s divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a “Federal Marriage Amendment.” Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart. (ibid)

President Bush has rejected the calls from Nancy Reagan, Christopher Reeve and Americans across the land for assistance with embryonic stem cell research. We will reverse his wrongheaded policy. Stem cell therapy offers hope to more than 100 million Americans who have serious illnesses – from Alzheimer’s to heart disease to juvenile diabetes to Parkinson’s. We will pursue this research under the strictest ethical guidelines, but we will not walk away from the chance to save lives and reduce human suffering. (Page 31)

If abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and gay marriage are 3 of the top 5 nonnegotiable issues how in Hades does any Catholic vote for or support anyone associated with the US Democratic Party?
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I’d like to know the same thing. 😦
 
"The Church is actively engaged in a wide variety of important public poilicy issues including immigration, education, affordable housing, health and welfare, to name just a few. On each of these issues we should do our best to be informed and to support those proposed solutions that seem most likely to be effective. However, when it comes to direct attacks on innocent human life, being right on all the other issues can never justify a wrong choice on this most serious matter.
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As Pope John Paul II has written, ‘Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of humans rights - for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture - is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with the maximum determination.’ (Christifideles Laici, 38)"
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Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted
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b_justb said:
From The 2004 Democratic National Platform for America (pdf file): (accessed from the Democratic Party Web Site)

Because we believe in the privacy and equality of women, we stand proudly for a woman’s right to choose, consistent with Roe v. Wade, and regardless of her ability to pay.
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Thanks for posting that from the Democratic Platform.

So the Dem policy is that abortion must be legal throughout the nine months of pregnancy, and if you can’t afford it, taxpayers will provide it.

I’ll be curious to see how many of the new pro-life Dems fight to change that plank next time around.
 
Catholics who voted for pro-abortion candidates should hang their heads in shame. Especially those who spent the last few months telling everyone it was okay and there was no difference between the parties on abortion.
 
The Democrats’ razor-thin majority in the Senate includes a handful of pro-life Democrats (Nelson in Nebraska; Casey in Pennsylvania; Pryor in Arkansas) as well as a handful of other Democrats who have refused to kowtow entirely to NARAL’s agenda by voting, for example, against partial birth abortion (Lincoln in Arkansas, Reid in Nevada, among others). Granted the number of these Democrats in the Senate is small, the fact is they exist. The Democratic leadership needs to be reminded of this fact, and the public – especially pro-life Democrats and pro-lifers generally – should insist that the Democrats – whose majority DEPENDS on a few pro-life Democrats – SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO STACK THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE only with Democrats who are 1000% pro-“abortion rights” like Kennedy, Kohl, Levin and the like. Because if they get away with doing that, then no judicial nominee will get a floor vote in the next two years; every nomination will be killed in committee. If the Democrats truly had not only a Senate majority but ALSO a pro-“abortion rights” majority, perhaps such stacking of the Judiciary Committee would be defensible – at least from a majority-rule perspective. But they DON’T – so if they try it, it should not be allowed to stand. (And it will kill the party at the polls 2 years from now if they do try it.)
 
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