Demographic Winter - a new documentary - this looks outstanding!

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I would love to see the whole thing on the big screen!!!

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I just received an email that said they expect to start shipping copies of the documentary the week of March 17.

I will let you all know what I think when it arrives.
 
I just got my copy and watched it this evening. This is an excellent documentary. I highly recommend people inform themselves on this topic.
 
That looks excellent. Just watching the trailer makes me feel like I want to cry.

Does anyone know if this will be airing on TV at any time, or do you need to purchase the DVD if you want to see it?

S.
 
As far as I know, it’s just on DVD. It was worth $19.95 IMHO.

The trailer on the DVD talks about a sequel documentary… so looks like there is even more to come!

The DVD contains the movie, a separate section just of all the charts/graphs that are shown in the movie, and a section of “deleted clips” which are some interviews with several people… I guess they wanted to keep the movie under 60 minutes. It’s right at 56 minutes.
 
Thanks! I have no problem with spending 19.95 on a good documentary! I just figured if was going to air soon, I’d hold off.

Thanks for the recommendation, all!

S.
 
You know what I have said this same exact thing for years.

I took and economics class in college and the professor said if you want to make good money, have a business that gears toward the baby boom generation.

After WWII the familes exploded and with that the economy in the US exploded and followed and still follows the baby boom generation.

1st - Baby companies emerged - Gerber, Pampers, etc.

2nd - Toy companies exploded, Mattel, Hasbro, etc.

3rd - Bicycles- Huffy, Murry, etc.

4th - As they progressed to teen agers, fast food joints

5th - As the started driving car companies here boomed

No look the big Home Depots and Lowes (they are fixing up thier houses)

What is happening with the baby boom generation now? Senior living centers. Then what will be the next baby boom boom? Death 😦

My parents have thought about buying a funeral home and I tell them, trust me within 15 years it will be a good investment.

I seen this trailer of this video and boy is it dead on. What will our we be like after the baby boom generation (here in the US) is gone?

Will we have a demographic winter here?

I am going to buy this video asap.
 
I also received my copy yesterday and watched it.

What I found interesting was the point they made about the number of households. Each household uses a certain minimum amount of energy and resources just to keep the lights on and the place warm and/or cool. With fewer children per family, you end up with more households per capita and you use much more energy and produce much more emissions. So the drop in fertility feeds global warming (if you buy into human-caused global warming).

This was very well done. It is not at all religious in nature and makes no moral judgments. I would describe this as more scholarly than preachy.

As for technical details, it is 60 minutes long and presented in anamorphic HD. You have a scene selection and the trailers. There is even a menu choice to see a couple of more interview segments that did not make the final cut. But what is very interesting is a selection that will show you all the graphs and statistics that were presented in the main program.

Additionally, this appears to be the first of at least two documentaries in a series. I eagerly anticipate Demographic Winter Part 2.
 
You guys should go to youtube and watch the video on the “money” or “Federal Reserve” it is not correct either however if you like this you will love that.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
You guys should go to youtube and watch the video on the “money” or “Federal Reserve” it is not correct either however if you like this you will love that.
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I am sorry, but what are you saying here? Are you dismissing the content of something that you have not seen?
 
rpp said:
I am sorry, but what are you saying here? Are you dismissing the content of something that you have not seen?
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Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Grassy Knoll, Economic destruction through over population, Economic destruction through under population, no gasoline will exist after year 2000, no trees by 2008(?) on an on it goes.
 
Texas_Roofer said:
Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Grassy Knoll, Economic destruction through over population, Economic destruction through under population, no gasoline will exist after year 2000, no trees by 2008(?) on an on it goes.
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Hey Texas remember that book that wacko wrote in the 70s about we we alll gonna die by 2000 because of the population explosion? I forget the name of it, but it sold millions of copies. I wonder where he’s at today? Al Gore said 3 years ago if we didn’t do something about global warming we’d all be dead in 10 years. So we’re down to 7, better get busy.

The future is in God’s hands folks, and its Friday so I reckon my wife and and I are gonna pick up our nieces and take em to the pizza buffet. Along the way I’m gonna tell them the weight of the world is on their shoulders! The baby boomers are all gonna dying off straining the funeral home business, the economy is gonna collapse! Eeeeeeeeeeeek!
 
Glad to see this. I have thought for many years that this could happen. Maybe 20 years ago I noted how many families that were once quite large have died off, either completely or nearly so. Some die young. Some never marry. Some have one child or two. Human populations are really quite fragile. Just to think; fifty years of no births and there’s no human race at all. Not at all.

I don’t expect zero births for fifty years, but it illustrates how quickly collapse can happen. At its ancient height, Rome was home to over a million people. In two centuries, it collapsed to a village, and people used the buildings on the periphery for stone quarries. The triggering factor, many scholars now believe, was a resurgence of malaria in the fourth century. It didn’t wipe out the population, but it did just enough to tip the population over into rapid decline.

Stories about what life was life after the Black Death are not pretty either. Farms returned to wilderness. Wild predators roamed the streets of villages at night and pursued woodcutters and travelers. Infrastructure and Economic collapse. Inflation. Social chaos. Brigandage. Birth rates were high among the survivors, but it took a long time to restock the place.

I really didn’t expect, even thirty years ago, to see Europe’s birth rate far below replacement. It happens fast.
 
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Glad to see this. I have thought for many years that this could happen. Maybe 20 years ago I noted how many families that were once quite large have died off, either completely or nearly so. Some die young. Some never marry. Some have one child or two. Human populations are really quite fragile. Just to think; fifty years of no births and there’s no human race at all. Not at all.

I don’t expect zero births for fifty years, but it illustrates how quickly collapse can happen. At its ancient height, Rome was home to over a million people. In two centuries, it collapsed to a village, and people used the buildings on the periphery for stone quarries. The triggering factor, many scholars now believe, was a resurgence of malaria in the fourth century. It didn’t wipe out the population, but it did just enough to tip the population over into rapid decline.

Stories about what life was life after the Black Death are not pretty either. Farms returned to wilderness. Wild predators roamed the streets of villages at night and pursued woodcutters and travelers. Infrastructure and Economic collapse. Inflation. Social chaos. Brigandage. Birth rates were high among the survivors, but it took a long time to restock the place.

I really didn’t expect, even thirty years ago, to see Europe’s birth rate far below replacement. It happens fast.
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“Awwww history repeat itself, what joke, that is not true” saying that sarcastically of course
 
I guess we owe it to the doom & gloom crowd to explain the issue. Economic=trade so more more trade equal more economic activity. Historical economic growth is achieved through two methods one is population growth, the other is productivity growth. When population growth occurs more people live at the same standard of living. So there is growth which benefits no individual (except the government). However when productivity increases the individual trades more, and thus the standard of living increases for the individual. So we can clearly see productivity increases are the desired method of economic growth. Throughout human history our best understanding is we have had 90% population driven economic growth and 10% productivity driven economic growth. In the next 100 years that will probably change. Our children will have higher standards of living than we can imagine while watching population decline or stabilize.

So what is the issue in your film; well it is the government promise to have the unborn pay for the vacation (junket). A child born today owes about $40,000 to the US government. In 30 years that may well be $500,000 or even a $1,000,000. So will that collapse the system, not necessarily. Today people stream in from the south to assume citizenship and debt, maybe in 2040 people will stream out to avoid citizenship and debt? Additionally who owes who the money? Well it turns out the government administration owes the money to the government social security. If that is confusing I’ll explain it. Each American worker is overpaying into the social security so upon their death the overpayment which forfeited to the government actually eliminates a piece of the debt. Now your questions are about cash flow. And cash flow will be handled as always by taxation (of all people to include retires) and borrowing.

Hope that helps
 
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~Liza
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This reminds me of two items I heard recently about Japan: they now have one million centenarians, and they have for sale robot babies bought by old women whose children have not reproduced. The babies say, “I love you, Grandma.”

A couple years ago I read a science fiction book set a few decades from now. The scenario wasn’t so bleak as “demographic winter” but the idea was that what young people there are will be effectively slaves of a gerentocracy since the old folks will have all the wealth and all the political clout.
 
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