Demographic Winter: Decline of the Human Family

[Dale_M]

But think for a moment: which culture–based on demographic growth–will influence W. European governments in the future? If North African, Middle Eastern, and Pakistani immigrants and their children begin to make up a larger percentage of the European population (which, based on what I’ve read, is the prediction)…what sort of governments will they elect? The children of the Enlightenment are becoming fewer and fewer, while the children of the Prophet are becoming more numerous.

Why do you think that children who grow up in Western nations won’t adopt the values and attitudes of Western culture?

 

[Kaninchen]

Why do you think that children who grow up in Western nations won’t adopt the values and attitudes of Western culture?

Because ‘the sky is falling’ is much more fun and the fact that the real immigration issue - 1 million (Catholic) Poles and other Eastern Europeans having moved to the UK in the last few years (for example) - isn’t as exciting to talk about as the 1.6 million Muslims who’ve been living there for decades being a threat to civilization as we know it.

 

[Michaeljc4]

Right. No Islamic extremism in Western Europe. Just ask Theo Van Gogh. Lot’s of young, second and third generation Muslims assimilating in France, huh? And England! No Muslim radicals there! Lots of Polish beer, though.

Good luck European, very.

 

[StAnastasia]

Do you have any opinion over the maximum number of people the world can support?

That depends on a variety of factors, including the availability of water and food. Food depends on oil and natural gas; water comes from glaciers (which are melting) and aquifers of fossil water (which are being pumped dry).

StAnastasia

 

[Sam_Maloney]

Because ‘the sky is falling’ is much more fun and the fact that the real immigration issue - 1 million (Catholic) Poles and other Eastern Europeans having moved to the UK in the last few years (for example) - isn’t as exciting to talk about as the 1.6 million Muslims who’ve been living there for decades being a threat to civilization as we know it.

How many London train stations have the Poles blown up?

How many authors have a price on their heads for writing antichristian novels?

How many cartoonists have round the clock police guards because they dared to draw the Pope?

 

[Kaninchen]

How many London train stations have the Poles blown up?

How many in the Uk have been killed by naughty, naughty Muslim terrorists as opposed to, say, nice, friendly Irish terrorists?

 

[thomfra]

Right. No Islamic extremism in Western Europe. Just ask Theo Van Gogh. Lot’s of young, second and third generation Muslims assimilating in France, huh? And England! No Muslim radicals there! Lots of Polish beer, though.

Good luck European, very.

To be fair, France is a bit of a special case - there is a real problem for educated Muslims to come into the work force. High unemployment, living in gettos etc, will always breed extremism.

But in the 60s it was native French students burning cars…(ref. the riots/car burning in France a couple of years ago) so I think has more to do with disaffection, than religion.

In Germany of course the sons and daughters of Christian priests formed the Baader Meinhof group which blew up their fair share of people/things, and shot a number of people. Again, disaffection.

In spain ETA (also a locally grown/**non **muslim group) has been shooting people the last 30 years ago…

In the States there are riots every time the power goes off - but it’s not Muslims rioting. It’s the poor and marginalised…(AKA African Americans).

 

[thomfra]

How many London train stations have the Poles blown up?

How many authors have a price on their heads for writing antichristian novels?

How many cartoonists have round the clock police guards because they dared to draw the Pope?

These are all good points. Thankfully, the press in Denmark and around Scandinavia showed some solidarity (with support from the government) and made sure they all printed these cartoons.

 

[thomfra]

That depends on a variety of factors, including the availability of water and food. Food depends on oil and natural gas; water comes from glaciers (which are melting) and aquifers of fossil water (which are being pumped dry).

StAnastasia

Agreed. I was just wondering if the poster had a figure in mind…

 

[thomfra]

*****Sam Maloney: *Do you know about the UK’s real and binding Sharia Courts?

Yes, but these are **civil **cases. A little bit like Judge Judy, where you go to a type of arbitration commission, where both parties agree to adhere to the decision. It saves people, and the court system a small fortune.

It doesn’t mean the rule of law (especially criminal law) doesn’t apply.

Nevertheless I am a little sceptical to this development.

 

[Michaeljc4]

How many in the Uk have been killed by naughty, naughty Muslim terrorists as opposed to, say, nice, friendly Irish terrorists?

“Brutus, thou sleepeth…awaken!” -Julius Caesar

 

[Kaninchen]

“Brutus, thou sleepeth…awaken!” -Julius Caesar

“We need a futile gesture at this stage. It will raise the whole tone of the war.”

 

[Michael_David]

How does gasoline and fire agree to live together in this world?

Are we not all Adam and Eve’s kids? Descendants like Cain or Able… And the ‘riff’ continues… Where are Seth’s kids???

Every time evil flourished, the end was not nice… just ask Noah.

The riff is between God’s children and Satan’s tribe, (no matter what religion they are, or aren’t)… And sorry to say, God, in all His mercy will not take Satan back in, so there can be not peace between them.

And the wheat is getting separated from the chaff.

(The closet door should of remained closed!)

 

[StAnastasia]

Agreed. I was just wondering if the poster had a figure in mind…

Well, before petroleum and natural gas began to be exploited, the global human population stood at one billion. After the petroleum and natural gas are used, who knows?

 

[Michaeljc4]

After the petroleum and natural gas are used, who knows?

Perhaps we can fuel the world on naive ideas about global solidarity and good will. Plenty of that in Europe.

 

[buffalo]

Well, before petroleum and natural gas began to be exploited, the global human population stood at one billion. After the petroleum and natural gas are used, who knows?

God said not to worry.

Having said that there is some scientists who believe oil is beng created today. That could mean a renewing resource.

 

[StAnastasia]

God said not to worry.Having said that there is some scientists who believe oil is beng created today. That could mean a renewing resource.

Do you know how oil is formed? It’s a biological artifact, not something welling up abiotically from the mantle. Oil and natural gas are products of organic materials cooked at high pressure and temperature over hundreds of millions of years. When it’s gone, as cheap, plentiful oil and gas will be during the coming century at current and projected demand, it will be gone forever. Humanity will need to find another source for fertilizer.

 

[buffalo]

Do you know how oil is formed? It’s a biological artifact, not something welling up abiotically from the mantle. Oil and natural gas are products of organic materials cooked at high pressure and temperature over hundreds of millions of years. When it’s gone, as cheap, plentiful oil and gas will be during the coming century at current and projected demand, it will be gone forever. Humanity will need to find another source for fertilizer.

Scientists Find More Oil In The Earth

…The existence of oil much farther below the surface than it was previously though to exist raises new questions about the origins of oil and natural gas. It has commonly been thought that they are the decayed remains of long dead plants and animals. However, as hydrocarbons are found at extreme depths, this explanation becomes increasingly implausible.

Astronomer Thomas Gold of Cornell University has long been dissatisfied with the dead dinosaur theory of oil’s origins. He argues that oil and gas are in fact the remains of methane left over from the earth’s origin. Methane, he points out, is one of the most common minerals in the universe. When the stars and planets were formed eons ago, it was one of the central building blocks from which matter formed.

If Mr. Gold’s theory is true, then it makes sense that we would continue to find hydrocarbons everywhere within the earth’s core and not just at the surface, where plants and animals exist. Thus the new research is at least consistent with Mr. Gold’s theory, even if it still remains to be proven.

The new scientific evidence that energy supplies may be vastly greater than previously imagined is only the latest blow to the doomsayers. Such people have been around for 200 years preaching that mankind has reached the limit to growth because we have found all the oil there is to be found. For at least a century, for example, the U.S. Geological Survey has consistently reported that America had only about 10 years worth of oil left.

New Oil Being Created Today?

…
Creating that much oil would take a big pile of dead dinosaurs and
fermenting prehistoric plants. Could there be another source for crude
oil?

An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs suggests
that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product, not a
stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The theory
suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at
depths that dwarf current world estimates.

The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process
which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20
miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:

 

[RobbyS]

In the modern world people have the strangest ideas of the life cycle. They assume because we live to be 84 instead of 48 we ought to grow up at 28 rather than 16, have a child at 35 instead of 20, and when biology doesn’t always cooperate with that, they go for expensive fertility treatments. Meanwhile, parents in their reproductive prime, the early and middle 20’s, kill their babies and disrupt their hormones.
I think the effect of materialism is that parents are evaluated by how rich they can rear their children, with no standard, so that no one quite feels financially capable of parenthood. People look right through me when I say they can afford to raise a child if they give up a few small luxuries for a few years, many of which luxuries I grew up mostly lacking. It’s a social concept that you can’t be a mother or father unless you’re in one of the upper income brackets, but you can abort. As if babies were better off dead than spending a few years in moderate poverty. It’s inevitable it would come to this when the dominant cultural influences define human worth in money.

All too true, My wife likes to say that she grew up poor, but didn’t know it, Our kids grew up rich but didn’t know it.

 

[RobbyS]

Scientists Find More Oil In The Earth

…The existence of oil much farther below the surface than it was previously though to exist raises new questions about the origins of oil and natural gas. It has commonly been thought that they are the decayed remains of long dead plants and animals. However, as hydrocarbons are found at extreme depths, this explanation becomes increasingly implausible.

Astronomer Thomas Gold of Cornell University has long been dissatisfied with the dead dinosaur theory of oil’s origins. He argues that oil and gas are in fact the remains of methane left over from the earth’s origin. Methane, he points out, is one of the most common minerals in the universe. When the stars and planets were formed eons ago, it was one of the central building blocks from which matter formed.

If Mr. Gold’s theory is true, then it makes sense that we would continue to find hydrocarbons everywhere within the earth’s core and not just at the surface, where plants and animals exist. Thus the new research is at least consistent with Mr. Gold’s theory, even if it still remains to be proven.

The new scientific evidence that energy supplies may be vastly greater than previously imagined is only the latest blow to the doomsayers. Such people have been around for 200 years preaching that mankind has reached the limit to growth because we have found all the oil there is to be found. For at least a century, for example, the U.S. Geological Survey has consistently reported that America had only about 10 years worth of oil left.

New Oil Being Created Today?

…
Creating that much oil would take a big pile of dead dinosaurs and
fermenting prehistoric plants. Could there be another source for crude
oil?

An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs suggests
that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product, not a
stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The theory
suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at
depths that dwarf current world estimates.

The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process
which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20
miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:

Oil may have both sources, both organic and nonorganic or a combination of the two. After all, isn’t life supposed to have begun as a nonorganic process? Isn’t primative life found very deep in the crust?