Demonic Infestation - It's over

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I joined this forum because I needed help regarding a demonic infestation. Some may remember my thread. I had a huge problem which included daily physical manifestations. Many of the forum members were concerned and offered help, prayer, and suggestions.

I tried getting help from my pastor, the diocese, and also priests from other parishes. Other priests referred me back to my parish. My pastor blessed my property. He and the diocese said that there was nothing more that they could do. I learned from this forum that there are more things that can be done. The folks on this forum renewed my interest in Catholicism. I continued to fight the demons with prayer and sacramentals while still looking for someone who could help.

I found an exorcist. She was not a Roman Catholic priest. She was a Gnostic Catholic priest who was specifically trained in exorcism. I was suspicious of Gnosticism. I learned that the term is used by a large variety of groups who have wildly different beliefs. There is no central authority for Gnostics, or for that matter even Gnostic Catholics.

She seemed wonderful and was very knowledgeable. The exorcist knew what I was going through before I told her the details. She had run across it before. She explained that my situation was rare. Even though she encountered a similar situation once before, she never expected to run into again within her lifetime. With the help of another priest, they performed an exorcism remotely. The main work is performed by angels.

Prior to, during, and following the exorcism, she told me to pray, attend mass, and receive the sacraments as often as possible. The grace of the sacraments creates a strong line of defense. I have become a much stronger Catholic. I have seen the results of the Mass, Sacraments, and also holy objects.

Demonic activity has subsided for six months. I learned a lot! One important question for which I needed an answer went like this: There is one who has all power – Right? Then why didn’t He take care of my problem when I asked Him? She explained that He has given us the tools to solve the problem. He will not do for us what we can do for ourselves. The tools are the priests. There have always been priests and there always will be priests. The priests are given certain rights by virtue of their ordination and through apostolic succession. When a person has a situation like mine, he must find a priest.
 
I would read Father Gabriel Amorth’s books. He’s the chief exorcist of Rome, and will help you understand the why. (I’m on the second one now - good reading :)) God Bless!
 
dcrowmik said:
Is this the Gnostic Catholic church you are talking about? If so, you have just heaped a whole bunch of diabolical trouble upon yourself.
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That was the first thing that I ran across. I was alarmed and asked the Gnostic Priest. No it is a different church.

I followed up with the pastor of my parish. I told him that I found some help, but was concerned whether I had gone to the wrong place to find it. His answer was, “If they helped you, then it was the right place.”
 
In MtnDweller’s defense, Father Amorth spoke of how exorcists in other Christian faiths are typically ok, and good people who have the same successes and failures as Catholic exorcists. He related one encounter with a Bishop who thought exorcism was foolish, and Father Amorth suggested to him to put up a sign outside his office reading: We do not believe in the demonic as taught to us by Jesus, so if you are in need of an exorcism, speak with the Anglicans, s, or s, who actually believe what Jesus told us about the devil.

The lack of Catholic exorcists is shameful. They are neglecting their flock - and if necessary, those of similar belief MUST suffice, since our good priests are failing to acknowledge the most basic of truths.
 
ljubim said:
In MtnDweller’s defense, Father Amorth spoke of how exorcists in other Christian faiths are typically ok, and good people who have the same successes and failures as Catholic exorcists.
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Here’s a Biblical passage backing what you just said.

Mark 9

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John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us.”
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Jesus replied, “Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me.
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For whoever is not against us is for us.”
 
ljubim said:
I would read Father Gabriel Amorth’s books. He’s the chief exorcist of Rome, and will help you understand the why. (I’m on the second one now - good reading :)) God Bless!
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Father Amorth is great. I have my doubts that “why” will ever be understood. It is not that I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about it. I have at least a half dozen defensible explanations. We know that nothing happens in God’s world by mistake.
 
Well, I would be concerned by the very fact that “she” claims to be a Catholic priest of any sort. Women cannot be priests. Also, the fact that they use the term “Gnostic” in their title is rather troubling as well. Personally, I am very concerned for you and believe that you may well have brought even more future diabolical trouble upon yourself.
 
Hi Holly. Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut. I have shared your concerns about things becoming more diabolical as a result from my efforts to exorcise my property. It seemed for a while that everything that was supposed to help, made things worse. I suspect that things were worsening because it was progressing, or perhaps as retribution, but not because they were getting more diabolical.

I am sure that you know that there are female Episcopal priests and other religions that ordain women. You must have meant that there are no female Roman Catholic Priests.

I was in a rough situation. You probably recall that I tried to get help from multiple priests and the diocese. The priests were largely dismissive and one was insulting. My pastor advised me to get help from my Native American friends. The exorcist told me that my situation was rare. She was not surprised that others didn’t understand. She was right.

A board member advised me that when saints were attacked by demons, they fought the demons, tried exorcisms, and still accepted things as they were in the present. I understand why they are saints! That is hard to do. I received better advice and more understanding from the board members than I did from any of the priests who I asked for help. This board is one of the reasons that I am still a Catholic. Thanks to everyone!

One of the reasons that I posted this thread was to remind people that demons are real and active. I fully suspect that their influence is greatly underestimated by most. The other reason is to point out that while I was looking for answers, I encountered several people who offered help without expecting anything in return. That has to be a good thing. There are people, other than Roman Catholics, who are doing God’s work.
 
Every Diocese has or has access to a trained official excorcist. No need to go running about asking heretics or worse to do what God gave power to HIS CHURCH to do.
 
kage_ar said:
Every Diocese has or has access to a trained official excorcist. No need to go running about asking heretics or worse to do what God gave power to HIS CHURCH to do.
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Every diocese definitely does not have an exorcist. I was told that the nearest exorcist was several hundred miles away. The exorcist’s identities are kept secret. Furthermore my pastor and the diocese advised me that I didn’t need an exorcist because I was not possessed. They told me that exorcisms were for people and also objects. My property and buildings did not qualify as an object. According to the diocese, Catholic Canon states that no evil can reside in a building which has been blessed. They informed me that there was nothing further that they or anyone else within the church can do.

You are correct that God gave power to His church to banish demons. Many of the priests are not well informed. I learned later that all priests are qualified and permitted to perform a level II exorcism. Most of the priests don’t know it.

I was directed by my pastor to ask the Native Americans for help. They were supportive and generous with their help. They were only able to temporarily quiet things down. After several attempts, they told me that there was nothing more that they could do.

You struck a nerve with me… I have been Catholic for my entire life. I attended Catholic grammar school, was an altar boy and later an usher, attended a Catholic University, had a Catholic wedding, and went to church on Sundays.

There Should have been no need for me to look to anywhere else for help. My faith was totally shaken. Although I love Native Americans, I did not want to ask them for help in a spiritual matter. The Gnostic priest reassured me that the truth and the real power over demons is within the Catholic Church. She refers to our priests as her Roman brothers. We call her a heretic.
 
MtnDwellar said:
Every diocese definitely does not have an exorcist. I was told that the nearest exorcist was several hundred miles away. The exorcist’s identities are kept secret. Furthermore my pastor and the diocese advised me that I didn’t need an exorcist because I was not possessed. They told me that exorcisms were for people and also objects. My property and buildings did not qualify as an object. According to the diocese, Catholic Canon states that no evil can reside in a building which has been blessed. They informed me that there was nothing further that they or anyone else within the church can do.

You are correct that God gave power to His church to banish demons. Many of the priests are not well informed. I learned later that all priests are qualified and permitted to perform a level II exorcism. Most of the priests don’t know it.

I was directed by my pastor to ask the Native Americans for help. They were supportive and generous with their help. They were only able to temporarily quiet things down. After several attempts, they told me that there was nothing more that they could do.

You struck a nerve with me… I have been Catholic for my entire life. I attended Catholic grammar school, was an altar boy and later an usher, attended a Catholic University, had a Catholic wedding, and went to church on Sundays.

There Should have been no need for me to look to anywhere else for help. My faith was totally shaken. Although I love Native Americans, I did not want to ask them for help in a spiritual matter. The Gnostic priest reassured me that the truth and the real power over demons is within the Catholic Church. She refers to our priests as her Roman brothers. We call her a heretic.
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When anyone disagrees with defined dogma, truth that springs from the Pillar and Foundation of Truth, that makes them a heretic. God can and does work through heretics to accomplish His will, however. I agree with you that you should not have had to go for help to a source outside the Catholic Church, though. I wish your diocese had been more supportive :(.
 
MtnDwellar said:
Every diocese definitely does not have an exorcist. I was told that the nearest exorcist was several hundred miles away. The exorcist’s identities are kept secret.
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Since I actuall SAID that every Diocese has or ***has access to ***an official excorcist (priests do die, they do retire, there are vacancies occasionally), your Diocese rightly told you they had access to an excorcist.

They don’t advertise, but they are not secrets either.

The tone of your posts come off as if there is some rebellion against the Authority of the Church. You will find peace when you submit fully to the Church.
 
kage_ar said:
Since I actuall SAID that every Diocese has or ***has access to ***an official excorcist (priests do die, they do retire, there are vacancies occasionally), your Diocese rightly told you they had access to an excorcist.

They don’t advertise, but they are not secrets either.

The tone of your posts come off as if there is some rebellion against the Authority of the Church. You will find peace when you submit fully to the Church.
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Hi Kage, I was not contradicting you. I was only pointing out that my diocese is one that does not have an exorcist. My pastor told me that his understanding was that there were only 12 exorcists in the United States. If that is true there are more diocese without than with exorcists.

I am not rebelling against the authority of the church. My statements confirm the authority of the church as given through Christ. The only problem that I have is that the priests and the parishes do not all exercise the fullness of their orders. Christ gave his disciples authority over demons and also sent them to heal the sick and drive out demons.
 
MtnDwellar, I am so glad to hear that everything is better for you. Your story was one that was hard for me to leave in the impersonal world of stories written on a computer. It troubled me. I prayed for you, and then was even fearful of praying for you. I wondered what had happened over the months. I am so glad to hear your faith has become much deeper. That is a wonderful fruit, and evidence God has been there all along.

You have had so much trouble on this forum, and I am sorry for that, too.
 
Angels_Unaware said:
MtnDwellar, I am so glad to hear that everything is better for you. Your story was one that was hard for me to leave in the impersonal world of stories written on a computer. It troubled me. I prayed for you, and then was even fearful of praying for you. I wondered what had happened over the months. I am so glad to hear your faith has become much deeper. That is a wonderful fruit, and evidence God has been there all along.

You have had so much trouble on this forum, and I am sorry for that, too.
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Hi Angels, Thank you very much for your prayers. Things were bad and they got worse! Friends came to visit, suspecting that I was psychotic, and ended up praying with me instead of taking me to the hospital. It got so bad that the people who prayed were attacked later by demons.

Your fears were not unfounded. I have learned that people who are part of deliverance ministries get attacked. Some prayer warriors have the same trouble. Any one who is fighting the enemy has to be in strong spiritual condition.

I am grateful for this forum. It has been a huge benefit for me. 👍
 
I, too, am glad that you are getting some relief from these problems, and hopefully they are gone for good!
 
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