The first thing that came to mind was to check Catholic Culture for a review of the website:
Thanks Alan for sharing that. I too am bi-polar… and have been in treatment for 5-7 years for it. Was also found disabled for 2 years by a federal Judge in a hearing. Very similar fight to yours it seems, Alan. It seemed wrong to proclaim myself disabled to something that seemed so real and it assaulted my conscience. I was my lawyers nightmare, so he settled. Alan, sometimes the Catholic answer is “both” when it comes to these things. We have to heal “mind, body and spirit” as I was told by a good Priest. The enemy is opportunistic as you may know and loves to discredit a witness to the good Lord’s mercy. Take care, Samson.I had severe bipolar disorder. At the time I really felt like I was somehow directly connected to the spirit world. Some things did indeed seem demonic.
Now, looking back at it, I have no reason to believe there were demons anywhere besides my imagination. The imagination was very vivid, but no good evidence it was spirit-led or even demonic.
When the judge asked me, during my disability hearing, why I did certain specific things that were listed in the evidence, I answered with total honesty, “I’m not sure, sir. At the time I believed I was being led by the Holy Spirit.” The judge ruled in my favor, to give me the disability.
To be accurate, I had many delusions, but no hallucinations. That is, I didn’t see a crucifix move, for example, but I did think it could have been possessed and was trying to influence me while I was playing the music at Mass.
I didn’t spend much time on the web site; it looked like quite a bit of material there. If you have a particular section to look at, I will. Meanwhile, I don’t know that I’ve encountered mental illness that is a result of demonic influence.
That is not to say there is not a spiritual component. There is a huge spiritual component. But it was about my own spiritual situation, not spirits from the “spirit world” or some such.
Not to say it can’t happen, but in any given case I’d go in with my first guess that the demons are entirely in the mind of the afflicted.
Alan
I just finished listening to the programs on Spiritual Warfare. Father Ripperger does not say bipolar is demonic obsession. What he does say is that demonic activity can mimic mental illnesses. The “bipolar patients” he mentions were people who were determined to not have a mental illness, but were suffering from demonic obsession, oppression, or possession. Out of that group of people under spiritual attack, he was able to alleviate the symptoms of mental illness by exorcising the diabolic influence.I found this website by a exorcist priest who says that he gets bipolar patients off their meds in two weeks. He says bipolar is demonic obession. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this? I think its under spiritual theology under the demon sections.
sensustraditionis.org/multimedia.html
Well, Father Chad did say that obsession is often caused by severe mental trauma leading to a spiritual dissociative state. In those cases, the mental state of the person makes them susceptible to obsession, but in no way does he suggest all people in that condition will become demonically obsessed. What he meant is related to fact that everything works according to authority on the spiritual level. When a person becomes disassociated from themselves, they are no longer in full control of themselves. That allows the demonic the chance to come in an try to influence the person’s imagination and behavior.I believe he said something about there having been some kind of disorder in the persons lives which openend them up to demonic obsession, not sure what he meant.
This very interesting to learn and there is a keen knowledge of what may be bothering some with this MI. In my case, coupling bi-polar with ptsd caused a real trigger in derealization and depersonalization that led to some pretty strange experience’s. I have had help from the Church after much discerment to cover all possible angles. Thankfully there are some Priests like this who understand that not every MI is black and white. That grey area is where the enemy finds opportunity’s. An area that the timid are afraid to go.Well, Father Chad did say that obsession is often caused by severe mental trauma leading to a spiritual dissociative state. In those cases, the mental state of the person makes them susceptible to obsession, but in no way does he suggest all people in that condition will become demonically obsessed. What he meant is related to fact that everything works according to authority on the spiritual level. When a person becomes disassociated from themselves, they are no longer in full control of themselves. That allows the demonic the chance to come in an try to influence the person’s imagination and behavior.
There is good news. In my experience, true healing is available as a gift from God, powered by spiritual growth. The Holy Spirit, aka the Divine Therapist, can actually heal the damage done by a lifetime of ills. The next question is how to invite the Lord in, and that is a whole discussion in itself – there are probably as many views on that as there are spiritual directors.I think if there is a good likely hood bipolar cases are obsession that can be a good thing, not that it is a good thing to be demonically obsessed, but that it is a good thing because you don’t have to rely on harmful medications for the rest of your life and all you need is prayers said over you and frequenting the sacraments and mental prayer to function in life.
I like the fact that Father Ripperger makes an effort to point out the difference between demonic obsession and the obsessions associated with OCD. He says they are not the same thing. Touching doorknobs or washing your hands constantly is not demonic obsession.This very interesting to learn and there is a keen knowledge of what may be bothering some with this MI. In my case, coupling bi-polar with ptsd caused a real trigger in derealization and depersonalization that led to some pretty strange experience’s. I have had help from the Church after much discerment to cover all possible angles. Thankfully there are some Priests like this who understand that not every MI is black and white. That grey area is where the enemy finds opportunity’s. An area that the timid are afraid to go.
Yes, OCD is another thing all by itself. My dx for this surronded my own compulsions mostly. I would be in a mania when I recieved my SSI for example and spent 20k in a couple of weeks. The bi-polar, ptsd, and ocd are all tied into past trauma, namely 14 weeks of intense chemo and near death, when possible oppression started.I like the fact that Father Ripperger makes an effort to point out the difference between demonic obsession and the obsessions associated with OCD. He says they are not the same thing. Touching doorknobs or washing your hands constantly is not demonic obsession.
With demonic obsession, the person is obsessed with something (a concept or activity) and no amount of logic can dislodge them from it. The diabolical influence is dulling their mind so that they cannot see that their train of thought or what they are involved with is wrong or sinful. Confusion is given as a sign of possible demonic obsession.
So, people with OCD can relax. It’s not the same kind of obsessive thoughts.
Yes, this is interesting. The obession referring to a certain image or like you said activity that they can’t get out of their mind no matter how hard they try. He did mention things like someone who had exposed themselves to pornography, and that even when they weren’t looking at porn, the images would keep coming up in their mind. I am sure there are other forms as well. He also mentioned those who were demonically obsessed had ususally numerous attempts at suicide. When he talked about the disorder in peoples lives that opens them up to demonic obession I was thinking (and of course I don’t know) that maybe he meant some type of sins they were commiting in their life like the pornography, so that when they tried to go back to trying to lead a spirtual life, after having their conversion, they just couldn’t get the images out of their heads, because of the disorder from their past sins from exposing themselves to pornography? I don’t know just a thought. Also, I am sure the obession can take on many of forms of thought, and it was interesting about what you mentioned about Father Chad talking about the confusion being a sign of obsession, that no amount of logic could dislodge the thoughts from their mind. He also went on to say almost always when someone is demonically obsessed, the obsession can influence their dreams.I like the fact that Father Ripperger makes an effort to point out the difference between demonic obsession and the obsessions associated with OCD. He says they are not the same thing. Touching doorknobs or washing your hands constantly is not demonic obsession.
With demonic obsession, the person is obsessed with something (a concept or activity) and no amount of logic can dislodge them from it. The diabolical influence is dulling their mind so that they cannot see that their train of thought or what they are involved with is wrong or sinful. Confusion is given as a sign of possible demonic obsession.
So, people with OCD can relax. It’s not the same kind of obsessive thoughts.
Hi I went to his website and I wanted to contact him but it seem there’s no way to do thatI found this website by a exorcist priest who says that he gets bipolar patients off their meds in two weeks. He says bipolar is demonic obession. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on this? I think its under spiritual theology under the demon sections.
sensustraditionis.org/multimedia.html
The good father is a member of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter.Hi I went to his website and I wanted to contact him but it seem there’s no way to do that
Perlmaria, there’s an email contact on the main page:Hi I went to his website and I wanted to contact him but it seem there’s no way to do that
I think you can email the order he is in. I know my brother has his email and number, he had to have got it offline, at least the email.Hi I went to his website and I wanted to contact him but it seem there’s no way to do that
well maybe he can give it to me does he knows about obsessions? I went to this priest and hel told me they were temptations that’s crazy!! I don’t feel tempted in any way.I wish I could find a priest that knows that obsessions are not temptations,temptations is something you want to do in a way.Obsessions is an intrusive thought that doesn’t go away and created doubts on you well thank you byeI think you can email the order he is in. I know my brother has his email and number, he had to have got it offline, at least the email.