Demonic obsession, vs possession

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Often, this can be the case. Certainly it can be entirely due to genetics, etc. However, I maintain, it can not be the case – demons as we have seen in scripture, can and do cause physical ailments.
Key word, physical ailments… ALL physical ailments, not just mental illness

You do not sound like someone who has read much about spiritual warfare? I’m not getting a clear picture of your overall framework of beliefs here on this matter

No, I haven’t read much about spiritual wareware… I live it! :eek:

Just what do you believe the activity of demons in this world does consist of?
Being involved in EVERY tiny and big aspect of our lives just as the Spirit of God is.

Do you think that a demon, coming upon someone mentally ill, is going to ignore that vulnerability?
No, but I also thing a demon will exploit any illness, attitude, personal belief, and lack of virtue to gain entrance. This especially includes an attitude of arrogance: Hitler case in point. Who is not to say his “madness” was eventual demonic possession. I have thought that from time to time. I tend to think if one is possessed, the devil would do much more damage by not advertising it in such a manner as in the story of “The Exorcist.” And I think we should not confine our thoughts about possession to that one little manifestation type.

Do you think if someone is badgered all day long by a demon mentally that person will not very likely become mentally ill?
I think we are all badgered all day long mentally, physically, and spiritually. I think it is the vulnerability of Original Sin that this is so. I think it is possible if one has a genetic vulnerability to a mental illness, it is possible that evil can slip in there in the struggle for health but I also think the vulnerability of arrogance is a more efficient way for evil to get in. Things like depression especially when it progresses, literally destroys (albeit temporarily most of the time if treatment is started) ones ability to be rational–hence, suicide is considered a terminal end to a serious illness in the medical/psychological world, not due to evil.
However, my opinion is that a person who recognizes early symptoms and does not take action due to arrogance is more likely to end up in a more serious struggle later on since the mental illness of depression can be short circuited with early treatment (not necessarily meds). But again I emphasize … this is true for ALL illnesses from the flu to cancer.
People’s advice on CAF for early stages of any mental illness, especially depression, Obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety to use spiritual means such as Divine Mercy, rosary, sacraments, etc are good advice even if a person needs psychological and medical treatment because it addresses the vulnerability to evil, which we ALL are vulnerable to.

Got to go to work; won’t be back here till later. Welcome your comments. Perhaps another thread on spiritual warefare if you think this is diverting from the OP. If you do that please PM me and let me know… Have a blessed day. 👍
 
“It is not good for us to be disturbed by our thoughts or to worry about them in the slightest; for if we do not worry and if the devil is responsible for them they will cease, and if they proceed, as they do, from the weakness which we inherit from the sin of Adam, and from many other weaknesses, let us have patience and bear everything for the love of God.”
  • St. Teresa of Jesus, Interior Castle
like it!
here is another:
“keep well to the grace of the moment; do your best, and leave the rest to God.”
St. Elizabeth Ann Seton
 
PS. I just had the time to read the last three posts and glance through that link above and I really really like all these responses, including you Shin.

I just hope they are being helpful to Monica and not being construed at hijacking the thread. If so, I apologize… but I think it all relates.

And one more (humorous) thing related to my longer post above. In my short time off the forum, I discovered that my own defensiveness to being challenged (historical in prior posts at different threads) was due to my own arrogance. :eek: See, subtle evil at play! Working on it! Ya’all feel free to “now, now” me if you see it again! 😉

Now, off to work!
 
“It is not good for us to be disturbed by our thoughts or to worry about them in the slightest; for if we do not worry and if the devil is responsible for them they will cease, and if they proceed, as they do, from the weakness which we inherit from the sin of Adam, and from many other weaknesses, let us have patience and bear everything for the love of God.”
  • St. Teresa of Jesus, Interior Castle
I really like this 🙂

Thanks everyone… God has been really helping me with my thoughts 🙂
 
Hmmm, must have done something wrong… maybe too long and detailed. 😦
Ok then…
Have a good weekend …
 
It was all very interesting to hear and talk about, I’m just not sure what more to say. 😃
 
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