Demonic Oppression? Need help!

[courage2010]

ALSO: My family does go to church. My parents are Non-Denominational Christians and true to their faith. They just don’t want to think there’s something wrong with our house because that would mean one of us had to bring it in. And with the way things have gone so far, the blame would have to be on me because everything started when I was going through puberty and it’s now effecting my brother as he begins puberty. But I never dabbled in anything occult in high school or middle school. The closes thing I could have possibly done was been crazy for horror films.

 

[courage2010]

   To the OP,  was the house blessed before you moved in?   Also  "poltergeist" is a name of a phenomena  that occurs  in various places throughout the world.   That means this is not a German phenomena or German anything.


    But  the type of  events the OP describes really negates any lay person barging in this situation directly.    Furthermore,  your parents only  have authority to call a priest or the diocese to come to the their house.

     You need to be speaking with your parents.  If there exists a conflict of some sort that makes this unpleasant or hinders you from doing so,  then  I assure you that this needs to be addressed, possibly even first.   It could be magnifying the whole issue or even the root cause.

    Whatever the case the OP needs to address these concerns with their parents.

BP

The poltergeist comment was meant not as it’s actual definition, it was more of a slightly morbid joke because the term itself is German.

Also, It seems that many people don’t understand: It may have been slightly unclear because I said I didn’t tell my mama about the first experience, but I have since told them about other things going on in the house. I HAVE talked to them and told them what I believe is going on, they CHOOSE not to listen.

 

[FaithInTheSon]

ALSO: My family does go to church. My parents are Non-Denominational Christians and true to their faith. They just don’t want to think there’s something wrong with our house because that would mean one of us had to bring it in. And with the way things have gone so far, the blame would have to be on me because everything started when I was going through puberty and it’s now effecting my brother as he begins puberty. But I never dabbled in anything occult in high school or middle school. The closes thing I could have possibly done was been crazy for horror films.

You don’t have “do something to let it in.”

Anyways, your grown. Go talk to an exorcist if you are that concerned and really believe it is a demon. Your parents can’t stop you.

Also, don’t take any advice you read here.

 

[courage2010]

If this is real, which being the internet is not a given, first step is a medical exam for yourself and brother. Insomia and not eating, and even weird nightmarish dreams could be symptoms from numerous causes. Have the house checked for molds or natural gas leaks and other potential causes (such as illegal drugs ).

There are so many possibilities that must be eliminated before an exorcism could be performed, again, assuming any of this story is true.

We have both had medical tests done. The only thing either of us have is ADD. I know that there is no kind of drug misuse whatsoever, we’re you’re average middle class Christian family. My brother wouldn’t even have access to illegal drugs, he’s home-schooled and his friends are all in his co-op group at our church.

As for gas leaks and mold, we recently renovated and have no problems.

I really don’t have any issues with this outside of my home. I live an hour away at University and rarely go home to visit because this is the ONLY place it happens.

 

[courage2010]

If you know this is real, and you are not making it up that is sufficient for you yourself to know you are not crazy. I would still recommend a psychiatrist if your not schizophrenic then this is almost surely a demon. You may be very smart and still be schizophrenic so make sure to get to a psychiatrist…

I’ve had all kinds of medical tests done, I’m definitely not schizophrenic. Just have ADD.

Remember that this is chess not checkers. They know more than us don’t bother trying to “catch the demon” in the act to provide proof. This will back-fire. If you are not crazy you need to talk to an exorcist. If you are possessed you will probably not even know it because you will black out a lot. Do people tell you that you black out a lot?

If it is just oppression it is humorous. They are making a strategical error by physically manifesting. They are showing weakness if you are not possessed.

I don’t black out. Ever nor has anyone noticed any kind of weird behavior or anything.

 

[Inego_de_Loyola]

We have both had medical tests done. The only thing either of us have is ADD. I know that there is no kind of drug misuse whatsoever, we’re you’re average middle class Christian family. My brother wouldn’t even have access to illegal drugs, he’s home-schooled and his friends are all in his co-op group at our church.

As for gas leaks and mold, we recently renovated and have no problems.

I really don’t have any issues with this outside of my home. I live an hour away at University and rarely go home to visit because this is the ONLY place it happens.

This sounds like a textbook case of demonic infestation; when a demon or group of demons is in someway attached to a location it is called an infestation. This can come about because someone has practiced the occult on the property, grievous sin has taken place there, or for some other reason the demon has a legal right to claim that house as his territory. I would recommend you ask your parents to consent to the blessing of the house if for no other reason than your own peace of mind. Regarding your not being catholic, the blessing of a priest is no less effective, because it is not from you but from Christ and his Church. I do have a question though; were you baptized in the trinitarian formula? (i.e. In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) If you were not then the dominion of the evil one over you was never broken, thus making a bad situation far more dangerous. Definitely pray the rosary, it is the prayer of the gospel, and is appropriate to any christian.

In Christ,
Iggy.

 

[BluesPicker]

The strange part in regard to the house being infested is that only the OP is getting attacked. There seems to be opposition to a priest entering to bless the house. Christ said we would be persecuted and this means demons can attack us.

     This is a very tough case to discern.   At this point,   I urge the OP to listen to their Oma, their grandmother.   My computer keeps wanting to crash every time  I try to answer this thread in the past two days.

     Christ will send someone into your life to help you; but you must pray in good faith.  Old people are wise.

Leaving before the trouble comes,
BP

 

[courage2010]

…were you baptized in the trinitarian formula? (i.e. In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit)

Yes, I was baptized with my parents when I was in 5th grade.

The strange part in regard to the house being infested is that only the OP is getting attacked. There seems to be opposition to a priest entering to bless the house. Christ said we would be persecuted and this means demons can attack us.BP

Actually my little brother is beginning to experience things too. I’m worried for him because I’m not there to help him and he already has been scared to death and worried over spiritual things, so I feel like whatever is in that house might be targeting him because of that.

A new even has occurred. I woke up this morning to a voice mail from my little brother telling me he saw something last night and it originated in his closet. this got me thinking.

Everyone in the house has a walk-in closet. The only attic space we have is above the garage, which is on the first floor. The 2nd floor sits above a vaulted ceiling, so the attic actually sits just below level with the 2nd floor. But, there is also an unknown space between the ceilings of the 2nd floor and the roof – enough for more attic space. Thing is, no one has been up there, at least since we moved in. The entrances were all sealed off long before we bought the house. Those entrances are all in the upstairs walk-in closets: one in my room, one in my brother’s, and one in the spare room. We’ve regularly heard things moving around up there, but have always contributed it to animals. During renovation we had all of the siding on the outside of our house replaced and chased all of the squirrels and birds out of the walls, but the noises didn’t stop.

Do you think it’s possible there might be something up there?

 

[FaithInTheSon]

Yes, I was baptized with my parents when I was in 5th grade.

Actually my little brother is beginning to experience things too. I’m worried for him because I’m not there to help him and he already has been scared to death and worried over spiritual things, so I feel like whatever is in that house might be targeting him because of that.

A new even has occurred. I woke up this morning to a voice mail from my little brother telling me he saw something last night and it originated in his closet. this got me thinking.

Everyone in the house has a walk-in closet. The only attic space we have is above the garage, which is on the first floor. The 2nd floor sits above a vaulted ceiling, so the attic actually sits just below level with the 2nd floor. But, there is also an unknown space between the ceilings of the 2nd floor and the roof – enough for more attic space. Thing is, no one has been up there, at least since we moved in. The entrances were all sealed off long before we bought the house. Those entrances are all in the upstairs walk-in closets: one in my room, one in my brother’s, and one in the spare room. We’ve regularly heard things moving around up there, but have always contributed it to animals. During renovation we had all of the siding on the outside of our house replaced and chased all of the squirrels and birds out of the walls, but the noises didn’t stop.

Do you think it’s possible there might be something up there?

lol people have been known to squat in houses without the homeowners consent! other than that no. They don’t exist in our 3 dimensions like that.

 

[Inego_de_Loyola]

lol people have been known to squat in houses without the homeowners consent! other than that no. They don’t exist in our 3 dimensions like that.

In my house there was a particular room in which they were more active than elsewhere. It is interesting that this was also a storage space where people rarely enter. You are right that they are not physical but their presence can be focused on a physical place.

 

[pablope]

Something I keep seeing in everyone’s replies is “get a Priest”, Thing is, I’m not Catholic. The bigger issue: My parents won’t allow anyone to come into our home for a cleansing. My Oma thinks I’ll have to try to do it myself…

It does not matter…you can still go to a priest. You could ask for his blessing too.

 

[Samson01]

It does not matter…you can still go to a priest. You could ask for his blessing too.

This… I’d make an appnt. to talk with a priest. Get a little Holy Water while you are there…prayers for you. Tim

 

[SaintPatrick333]

Get a Catholic Priest. protestant ministers won’t cut it. Remember, to Christ, it’s a religion AND a relationship not one over the other

 

[BluesPicker]

Get a Catholic Priest. protestant ministers won’t cut it. Remember, to Christ, it’s a religion AND a relationship not one over the other

Actually that is not true nor is it Catholic doctrine as the Church puts forth. St. Alphonsus Liguori wrote in his book "Theologia Moralis, III, on p.492: "private exorcism is permissible to all Christians." Dom Benedict Heron, OSB & Fr. Fortea all state that Pentecostals & the like Bible based churches, have a history of successive deliverances. However these were probably not cases of full possession.

 

[Inego_de_Loyola]

Actually that is not true nor is it Catholic doctrine as the Church puts forth. St. Alphonsus Liguori wrote in his book "Theologia Moralis, III, on p.492: “private exorcism is permissible to all Christians.” Dom Benedict Heron, OSB & Fr. Fortea all state that Pentecostals & the like Bible based churches, have a history of successive deliverances. However these were probably not cases of full possession.

No protestant minister will have the full force of the Catholic Church or her sacramentals. Obviously deliverance has been obtained by protestants, the same is true for Muslims and Hindus, but these are equivalent to taking a knife to a gun fight. There is nothing to compare to the Church in efficacy; Get a priest, no one can argue with our track record on these matters.

In Christ,
Iggy.

 

[mskejj]

Yes, I was baptized with my parents when I was in 5th grade.

Actually my little brother is beginning to experience things too. I’m worried for him because I’m not there to help him and he already has been scared to death and worried over spiritual things, so I feel like whatever is in that house might be targeting him because of that.

A new even has occurred. I woke up this morning to a voice mail from my little brother telling me he saw something last night and it originated in his closet. this got me thinking.

Everyone in the house has a walk-in closet. The only attic space we have is above the garage, which is on the first floor. The 2nd floor sits above a vaulted ceiling, so the attic actually sits just below level with the 2nd floor. But, there is also an unknown space between the ceilings of the 2nd floor and the roof – enough for more attic space. Thing is, no one has been up there, at least since we moved in. The entrances were all sealed off long before we bought the house. Those entrances are all in the upstairs walk-in closets: one in my room, one in my brother’s, and one in the spare room. We’ve regularly heard things moving around up there, but have always contributed it to animals. During renovation we had all of the siding on the outside of our house replaced and chased all of the squirrels and birds out of the walls, but the noises didn’t stop.

Do you think it’s possible there might be something up there?

A few months ago there was an article in the Houston Chronicle about a family who had moved into a house who was experiencing some of the type of problems you are experiencing. They found out that the family before them had a bunch of teenagers that were into seances and the like…They called a priest and he blessed the house etc and the problems stopped. You really should consider doing this. Did you see the movie or read the book “The Rite”? …a true interview with a priest who is an exorcist. Demons are real…call a priest…catholic or not!

 

[BluesPicker]

Yes, I was baptized with my parents when I was in 5th grade.

Actually my little brother is beginning to experience things too. I’m worried for him because I’m not there to help him and he already has been scared to death and worried over spiritual things, so I feel like whatever is in that house might be targeting him because of that.

A new even has occurred. I woke up this morning to a voice mail from my little brother telling me he saw something last night and it originated in his closet. this got me thinking.

Everyone in the house has a walk-in closet. The only attic space we have is above the garage, which is on the first floor. The 2nd floor sits above a vaulted ceiling, so the attic actually sits just below level with the 2nd floor. But, there is also an unknown space between the ceilings of the 2nd floor and the roof – enough for more attic space. Thing is, no one has been up there, at least since we moved in. The entrances were all sealed off long before we bought the house. Those entrances are all in the upstairs walk-in closets: one in my room, one in my brother’s, and one in the spare room. We’ve regularly heard things moving around up there, but have always contributed it to animals. During renovation we had all of the siding on the outside of our house replaced and chased all of the squirrels and birds out of the walls, but the noises didn’t stop.

Do you think it’s possible there might be something up there?

  Yes,  it is not just possible it is probable even.   A child of two years old became possessed by action of a curse. . Rev. Carl Schmidt, C.Ss.R, a Canadian exorcist  conducted the exorcism of the boy named  Philip and I believe he intends to publish this in a upcoming book.  This  sweet child who loves to go to Mass & walk the grounds of  an Augustine monastery where he lives, raked from elbow to wrist of the arm of his father.  Philip's family moved into a new home.  Philip became repossessed again because the workers who built the home cursed God so much.   Fr. Carl conducted another exorcism & exorcised & blessed the home.   

     The point is that if  cursing  can cause infestation-like manifestations then an older homes by action of  previous occupants may indeed have some type of demonic attachments.  

       You really need to have a priest pray over you, obtain sacramentals, and  try to find out about previous occupants, their character and religious sentiments.  Particularly try to find out if  they were into occultism & spiritism.  Essentially a history of the home is needed. 

       Also  has the OP  ever practiced occultism or spiritism like playing with Ouija boards or Tarot  cards.  

       Write down a brief history of events pertaining to the demonic  in a  dated list beginning with when the OP moved in.  Also  describe the activity you were engaged in  at the time of the attacks.   For example entries like:

 3)  roughly 3 weeks after  I moved in while "doing something" this "occurred." 

   Don't make it elaborate, just bare details otherwise it will be too long.   Then from the information gathered like from neighbors or any source develop a history of the house beginning with who built it.   Note if there is any history of  sinful  acts of violence or any type of deviant sexual behavior.

  That sealed off  space needs to be examined  also.  And increase your prayer life. A good thing would be saying prayers with your family..   Now,  I am not saying that this is definitely infestation but it sounds like it could be.  They just can't walk in and take over.   There could have been a murder or witchcraft performed of some sort.   Infestations can be tenacious or they can be gone by just the family praying together.  Just blessing the home may not be the thing to do first. God will send someone to deliver the house but it will be done in God's Time.

       But above all don't be scared.

 

[pablope]

This… I’d make an appnt. to talk with a priest. Get a little Holy Water while you are there…prayers for you. Tim

I forgot to add…do the sign of the cross before and after praying…or anytime you feel there something lurking…and instruct your brother too.

catholicism.about.com/od/prayers/qt/Sign_of_Cross.htm

 

[Kasmalim]

Yeah, I wouldn’t wait too long if I were you. You should get a Catholic priest. Demons feed off various things, but what they love is fear. I’m not being philosophical - seriously, to them it’s more delicious than triple fudge chocolate cake. They try to scare you for that very reason. And it seems to be getting what it wants, from you, and your brother.

 

[BluesPicker]

No protestant minister will have the full force of the Catholic Church or her sacramentals. Obviously deliverance has been obtained by protestants, the same is true for Muslims and Hindus, but these are equivalent to taking a knife to a gun fight. There is nothing to compare to the Church in efficacy; Get a priest, no one can argue with our track record on these matters.

In Christ,
Iggy.

Iggy,

        I wrote  my post in response  to this originally posted by SaintPatrick33:

Get a Catholic Priest. protestant ministers won’t cut it. Remember, to Christ, it’s a religion AND a relationship not one over the other.

& my response was:

Actually that is not true nor is it Catholic doctrine as the Church puts forth. St. Alphonsus Liguori wrote in his book "Theologia Moralis, III, on p.492: “private exorcism is permissible to all Christians.” Dom Benedict Heron, OSB & Fr. Fortea all state that Pentecostals & the like Bible based churches, have a history of successive deliverances. However these were probably not cases of full possession.

Then your response was:

No protestant minister will have the full force of the Catholic Church or her sacramentals. Obviously deliverance has been obtained by protestants, the same is true for Muslims and Hindus, but these are equivalent to taking a knife to a gun fight. There is nothing to compare to the Church in efficacy; Get a priest, no one can argue with our track record on these matters.

In Christ,
Iggy.

   Now here is my response to you: 

 Whether you like it or not,  I stated the truth.  And no when   Dom Benedict Heron, Order of St. Benedict  &  Fr. Fortea  stated these things it was not in reference to pagan religions.    It was in reference to those of other Christian denominations who united to Christ, especially Christ Crucified  merely in Good Faith using the Holy Name of  Christ delivered people.   Also this is reflected in Catholic doctrine.   And if you don't like it, feel jealous or whatever,  that is your problem.    I was not making some sort of  comparison of  between the efficacy of this or that.

    Furthermore the OP stated his dilemma was his family was not Catholic and it would be hard if not impossible to have a Catholic priest come.   So  I was trying to give the OP Hope, not just hope but Hope in Christ.   You know  Hope, Charity & Faith?  Undermine the Pillar of  Hope  and the other two Pillars of  foundational  Virtues crumble quickly.

     What did Christ said  to his Apostles & Disciples in response to their concerns about others casting out  demons in  his Name?

Mark 9:38-40 Douay Rheims Bible
John answered him, saying: Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, who followeth not us, and we forbade him. 39 But Jesus said: Do not forbid him. For there is no man that doth a miracle in my name, and can soon speak ill of me. 40 For he that is not against you, is for you. 41 For whosoever shall give you to drink a cup of water in my name, because you belong to Christ: amen I say to you, he shall not lose his reward.

 Certainly a Catholic priest who has been trained and has experience in deliverance, particularly infestations, would be the best for this family.   But  the OP is having trouble getting his family to recognize his the danger the family is in.   Infestations particularly if there are manifestations of  Holy Souls from Purgatory are very difficult situations.

   It is faith that is our shield. It is our faith that unlocks the power of God -- which readily overcomes all evil.   The Christians faith in Jesus Christ.   There are no gun slinger exorcists in the Catholic Church.   Those words come straight from an exorcist.

    The prayers of  a Catholic Priests who are appointed exorcists, just deliverance prayers aka. as simple exorcisms,  spoken over a speaker phone  can and have put the devil to flight many times. 

    I am not trying to promote other Christian denominations.  I am trying to give Hope, nothing more.

     I meant not to offend anyone.   I welcome your criticism however,   I should have been more clear.

BP