Demonic or Egyptian?

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I am, among other things, a Destiny player - and yesterday I aquired this (google.it/search?q=ram+destiny&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwtOOOhr3TAhWqKcAKHfA4CyEQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=W40FUTRIe84QWM:) specific helmet.
And yes, the moment you click on the link, you see why I am asking.
While a ram skull may or may not be associated to the devil-worshipping cults, it is also the symbol of Ammon-Ra, one of Ra’s (the Egyptian main sun god) incarnations, mostly because Destiny is rife with references to Norse and Egypt mithology. However, a good chunk of Interney users made threads asking about its supposedly demonic nature (just type something along the lines of "destiny ram satanic) and soo…I got doubtful.
Anyone’s two cents on this?
 
It does look a bit scary but i wouldnt worry too much about it. The Israelites were constantly surrounded by images and statues of other so called gods when they lived in Egypt. Later again in Babylon and even in Israel itself. Christians in the Roman empire too. And I’ve never heard that this caused danger. I think they re just references to non existing deities, not to the devil
 
The game called it a ram helmet, not by some god name. i doubt it could even be considered egyptian!

The real question is, what do YOU think it represents?
 
LiquidMan said:
I am, among other things, a Destiny player - and yesterday I aquired this (google.it/search?q=ram+destiny&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwtOOOhr3TAhWqKcAKHfA4CyEQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=W40FUTRIe84QWM:) specific helmet.
And yes, the moment you click on the link, you see why I am asking.
While a ram skull may or may not be associated to the devil-worshipping cults, it is also the symbol of Ammon-Ra, one of Ra’s (the Egyptian main sun god) incarnations, mostly because Destiny is rife with references to Norse and Egypt mithology. However, a good chunk of Interney users made threads asking about its supposedly demonic nature (just type something along the lines of "destiny ram satanic) and soo…I got doubtful.
Anyone’s two cents on this?
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There have been numerous stories of Catholic in the deliverance ministry who stated they have had to deliver some people and properties that had a pagan object in their house, be it a statue of a false God etc (because whoever owned it previously had consecrated the object to Satan).

St Paul warns of having anything to do with false gods, warning that sometimes the false gods that were worshipped by certain religions was actually private revelations coming from demons,

St Paul wrote in the New Testament:
“Do you know know the false gods the Greeks worship are fallen angels/ demons?”

Because of the fact that some religions were simply made up by early civilizations and a few did have demons appearing in the form of false gods, pagan objects can be very dangerous.

It doesn’t matter if you do not believe in the pagan gods and are not worshipping them,

That object may have been used in a consecrated ritual doing homage to a false god that is not the God of the Bible.

Objects consecrated to false spirits can be very dangerous.

Atheists who have had ouijii boards in their houses experienced spiritual activity around the house, mysterious illnesses that doctors couldn’t cure, terrible runs of bad luck/ accidents, and have needed exorcism/ deliverance of themselves/ their property by a Catholic Exorcist.

Get rid of that object and bless it and your house with Holy Water. Holy Water has exorcism prayers prayed over it.
 
A description of this helmet says

It is an exotic helmut for the warlock.

Definition of warlock - a man who practices witchcraft.

Bible and Catechism say

2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity.

From. vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

Why are you playing this game? You are a warlock in it.
No this is not innocent.

Not a false god. Not an idol, this is purely satanic. Look up warlock.

People need to investigate what the game and this helmut is about

Before commenting on threads like this.
Its demonic.

Did you know you were a warlock in this game?
 
Bad spirits, the devil, satan, whatever your name for “he whose butt will be kicked down to hell by St Michael The ArchAngel”,

Is having a great time with these internet computer games, through game developers.

No wonder the demand for Exorcists is on the rise, and people are demanding quick Baptism and Exorcism. ( see recent thread)
 
MaryHelp777 said:
There have been numerous stories of Catholic in the deliverance ministry who stated they have had to deliver some people and properties that had a pagan object in their house, be it a statue of a false God etc (because whoever owned it previously had consecrated the object to Satan).

St Paul warns of having anything to do with false gods, warning that sometimes the false gods that were worshipped by certain religions was actually private revelations coming from demons,

St Paul wrote in the New Testament:
“Do you know know the false gods the Greeks worship are fallen angels/ demons?”

Because of the fact that some religions were simply made up by early civilizations and a few did have demons appearing in the form of false gods, pagan objects can be very dangerous.

It doesn’t matter if you do not believe in the pagan gods and are not worshipping them,

That object may have been used in a consecrated ritual doing homage to a false god that is not the God of the Bible.

Objects consecrated to false spirits can be very dangerous.

Atheists who have had ouijii boards in their houses experienced spiritual activity around the house, mysterious illnesses that doctors couldn’t cure, terrible runs of bad luck/ accidents, and have needed exorcism/ deliverance of themselves/ their property by a Catholic Exorcist.

Get rid of that object and bless it and your house with Holy Water. Holy Water has exorcism prayers prayed over it.
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I totally agree. For years I have attended monthly days of prayer with a very gifted priest and he said the same thing.
 
Roseeurekacross,

Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut as well!
 
Hey LiquidMan, I think there are two schools of thought on this sort of thing, broadly speaking.

The first school has already chimed in - this is obviously of the occult, even says so in the description, better not to mess with it at all. And I have to admit that a case could be made for this point of view.

The other school, which I’m more sympathetic to, is that this object isn’t real. It is a representation of a set of 0’s and 1’s in a database on a gaming server. It has no physical existence and no effect in real life except for how it modifies the interactions in game play, which itself has no physical existence except as how software in a gaming server modifies the 0’s and 1’s on a computer someplace.

That you cared enough to post the question in the first place suggests to me that you might lean towards the first camp. If that’s the case, then perhaps you might think about whether you ought to be playing a game that is saturated with Norse and Egyptian mythology in the first place. Maybe you should take a look at Eve Online, where you are blowing up imaginary Space Pirates and other player’s imaginary spaceships.

On the other hand, if your issue is not with the game itself, but rather the imaginary game item, then why not just sell it, give it to another player, or abandon it in an imaginary forest someplace and be done with it?
 
LiquidMan said:
I am, among other things, a Destiny player - and yesterday I aquired this (google.it/search?q=ram+destiny&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwtOOOhr3TAhWqKcAKHfA4CyEQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=512#imgrc=W40FUTRIe84QWM:) specific helmet.
And yes, the moment you click on the link, you see why I am asking.
While a ram skull may or may not be associated to the devil-worshipping cults, it is also the symbol of Ammon-Ra, one of Ra’s (the Egyptian main sun god) incarnations, mostly because Destiny is rife with references to Norse and Egypt mithology. However, a good chunk of Interney users made threads asking about its supposedly demonic nature (just type something along the lines of "destiny ram satanic) and soo…I got doubtful.
Anyone’s two cents on this?
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Well it does look like a goat head Satan, so I would say yes it is demonic inspired or influenced .
 
Roseeurekacross said:
A description of this helmet says

It is an exotic helmut for the warlock.

Definition of warlock - a man who practices witchcraft.

Bible and Catechism say

2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity.

From. vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

Why are you playing this game? You are a warlock in it.
No this is not innocent.

Not a false god. Not an idol, this is purely satanic. Look up warlock.

People need to investigate what the game and this helmut is about

Before commenting on threads like this.
Its demonic.

Did you know you were a warlock in this game?
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Dude…before ypu start acting like Jack Chick, calm down. I was fully aware of the fact that I am a warlock. There is nothing satanic or demonic in it. I chose it at the charachter creation screen.

Why?
Easy. It is a science fiction game. Warlock here refers to warriors who wield magic-like powers derived from the universe fundamental energies. Nothing satanic or demonic in that part.
 
MaryHelp777 said:
There have been numerous stories of Catholic in the deliverance ministry who stated they have had to deliver some people and properties that had a pagan object in their house, be it a statue of a false God etc (because whoever owned it previously had consecrated the object to Satan).

St Paul warns of having anything to do with false gods, warning that sometimes the false gods that were worshipped by certain religions was actually private revelations coming from demons,

St Paul wrote in the New Testament:
“Do you know know the false gods the Greeks worship are fallen angels/ demons?”

Because of the fact that some religions were simply made up by early civilizations and a few did have demons appearing in the form of false gods, pagan objects can be very dangerous.

It doesn’t matter if you do not believe in the pagan gods and are not worshipping them,

That object may have been used in a consecrated ritual doing homage to a false god that is not the God of the Bible.

Objects consecrated to false spirits can be very dangerous.

Atheists who have had ouijii boards in their houses experienced spiritual activity around the house, mysterious illnesses that doctors couldn’t cure, terrible runs of bad luck/ accidents, and have needed exorcism/ deliverance of themselves/ their property by a Catholic Exorcist.

Get rid of that object and bless it and your house with Holy Water. Holy Water has exorcism prayers prayed over it.
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Nowhere in my post I wrote about it being a religious object, that my house is manifesting demonic presence, or that it has anything to do with demon worship, in or out of the game.
So please - exorcism has nothing to do with this.
There are thousand of people playing this game, and none have reported demonic disturbance.
 
TechieGuy said:
Hey LiquidMan, I think there are two schools of thought on this sort of thing, broadly speaking.

The first school has already chimed in - this is obviously of the occult, even says so in the description, better not to mess with it at all. And I have to admit that a case could be made for this point of view.

The other school, which I’m more sympathetic to, is that this object isn’t real. It is a representation of a set of 0’s and 1’s in a database on a gaming server. It has no physical existence and no effect in real life except for how it modifies the interactions in game play, which itself has no physical existence except as how software in a gaming server modifies the 0’s and 1’s on a computer someplace.

That you cared enough to post the question in the first place suggests to me that you might lean towards the first camp. If that’s the case, then perhaps you might think about whether you ought to be playing a game that is saturated with Norse and Egyptian mythology in the first place. Maybe you should take a look at Eve Online, where you are blowing up imaginary Space Pirates and other player’s imaginary spaceships.

On the other hand, if your issue is not with the game itself, but rather the imaginary game item, then why not just sell it, give it to another player, or abandon it in an imaginary forest someplace and be done with it?
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Ok, maybe I phrased my first post in a bad way. I am not particularly bothered by it. I am not scared, I feel no negative energy or anything when I equip it, furniture does not move on its own. It plays like any other in-game object.

I simply do not like when demonic-themed things are in games that do not talk about demons or the occult (I do not play it, but I understand why there are pentagrams in games like Doom or Diablo). Since I should definately not something that, even visually, comes from the devil (the actual devil, not the red skinned, horned, fantasy - themed one) and, to answer your other question, I do kind of like this helmet, I just wanted to make sure I was not liking something that may be referencing the occult.

That. Nothing else.

There is no need for an exorcist, as other posters suggested. All is well here. It was simply a little bugger of mine, and since this is a Christian forum I wanted an opinion from people of my same belief system.
 
Le_Bonvivant said:
It does look a bit scary but i wouldnt worry too much about it. The Israelites were constantly surrounded by images and statues of other so called gods when they lived in Egypt. Later again in Babylon and even in Israel itself. Christians in the Roman empire too. And I’ve never heard that this caused danger. I think they re just references to non existing deities, not to the devil
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First of all, pagan gods aren’t demons – they’re simply nonexistent. There’s no such thing as the Sun God, Mithra, Isis, etc. But what happens is demons often hide behind these names and respond when the god is invoked.
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This was the view of Tertullian (160-229), who is known as the “founder of western theology” who believed that because pagan gods were supposedly deified human beings, they weren’t real. Instead, their names and images “were employed by unclean spirits, fallen angels, demons of pagan philosophical tradition, in order to take honor upon themselves and from God.”
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The early Church father, Justin Martyr, also believed that heathen gods were wicked demons who led men astray.
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womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=35028

I heard the Ancient Hebrews (perhaps during the time of Moses; also King David mentions it in one of his Psalms) viewed the Ancient Egyptian gods as demons.
 
LiquidMan said:
Dude…before ypu start acting like Jack Chick, calm down. I was fully aware of the fact that I am a warlock. There is nothing satanic or demonic in it. I chose it at the charachter creation screen.

Why?
Easy. It is a science fiction game. Warlock here refers to warriors who wield magic-like powers derived from the universe fundamental energies. Nothing satanic or demonic in that part.
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Ok you asked for advice, you got it. You don’t like it.

The fact remaines you are playing as, and have chosen to be a warlock in this game.

Putting our heads in the sand and acting like Ostriches wont help your cause now.
Why? Because it has been pointed out to you what a warlock is.
The game describes a warlock as weilding magic like powers derived from universal fundamental energies. Right. Well magic and sorcery are not allowed in our Faith.

Google magic, google new age, google witchcraft and warlock with respect to the Catholic Church teachings. Or ask your Priest. Don’t take my word for it.

A warrior is just that. A warrior. Plenty of them in the Bible. They aren’t biblical warlocks Dude.

Btw , I ain’t a dude.

I know you are young. We are either with God, or with the devil in what we do. And these can be tough choices to make. But we must strive to reject satan and all his snares and tricks.

This is but one of them.

I will pray you find the courage to do so. Young friend.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Ok you asked for advice, you got it. You don’t like it.

The fact remaines you are playing as, and have chosen to be a warlock in this game.

Putting our heads in the sand and acting like Ostriches wont help your cause now.
Why? Because it has been pointed out to you what a warlock is.
The game describes a warlock as weilding magic like powers derived from universal fundamental energies. Right. Well magic and sorcery are not allowed in our Faith.

Google magic, google new age, google witchcraft and warlock with respect to the Catholic Church teachings. Or ask your Priest. Don’t take my word for it.

A warrior is just that. A warrior. Plenty of them in the Bible. They aren’t biblical warlocks Dude.

Btw , I ain’t a dude.

I know you are young. We are either with God, or with the devil in what we do. And these can be tough choices to make. But we must strive to reject satan and all his snares and tricks.

This is but one of them.

I will pray you find the courage to do so. Young friend.
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How do I explain this? There is NO magic at all involved. At. All. Nothing coming from the devil. Nothing preaching againist the Lord. Nothing telling me to join cults. Ever.

The traditional definition of warlock has NOTHING to do with the one presented in this game.
 
I got all the answers I needed from this thread. Mods please lock it.
 
Think of the benefits of giving up some time of game playing and praying for ourselves and the whole world.

What an impact that would make! Lord help us!
 
LiquidMan said:
How do I explain this? There is NO magic at all involved. At. All. Nothing coming from the devil. Nothing preaching againist the Lord. Nothing telling me to join cults. Ever.

The traditional definition of warlock has NOTHING to do with the one presented in this game.
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Why is it I hear the Jaws theme…🦈

Don’t kid yourself, sharks have sharp teeth, and they are a very primitive killing machine. But we wont get bitten if we stay out of their ocean. Right?
 
LiquidMan said:
I simply do not like when demonic-themed things are in games that do not talk about demons or the occult (I do not play it, but I understand why there are pentagrams in games like Doom or Diablo). Since I should definately not something that, even visually, comes from the devil (the actual devil, not the red skinned, horned, fantasy - themed one) and, to answer your other question, I do kind of like this helmet, I just wanted to make sure I was not liking something that may be referencing the occult.

That. Nothing else.
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Well, I’m in the minority here, but seeing as how you have a clear idea of the difference between 0’s and 1’s and reality and that the game item doesn’t seem to specifically reference any real occult object, I’d say ‘enjoy the game’.
 
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