Demonology and Emily Rose

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johnshelby:
well, common sense would tell anyone if they … dabble… in
things like the occult or new age or paganism… they are
opening themselves up to trouble…

i’m not saying it’s wrong to study demonology… it is up to
each person’s own feelings and beliefs… study is not a sin…
study of any subject is not a sin…

i’m just saying, i know about as much concerning demonology
as i want to know… which isn’t much, but it’s enough to scare
me… lol

🙂
Common sense or not, many people don’t even know whether something is new age or not. My sister for example, proceeded to tell me about her massage therapist who was doing some “energy work” with her. When I aksed what her MT called the “energy work”, she replied, " Reiki, I think." After I showed her my Christian Guide to Alternative Medicine, she just about fell over backwards when she read the Reiki Masters channel spirit guides to help them with their work. She has since found a new MT.
 
not sure of the … true facts of the case but, this is appearently
one version of the story…



From her birth on the 21st of September, 1952, Anneliese Michel enjoyed the life of a normal, religiously nurtured young girl. Without warning, her life changed on a day in 1968 when she began shaking and found she was unable to control her body. She could not call out for her parents, Josef and Anna, or any of her 3 sisters. A neurologist at the Psychiatric Clinic Wurzburg diagnosed her with “Grand Mal” epilepsy. Because of the strength of the epileptic fits, and the severity of the depression that followed, Anneliese was admitted for treatment at the hospital.

Soon after the attacks began, Anneliese started seeing devilish grimaces during her daily praying. It was the fall of 1970, and while the young people of the world were enjoying the liberal freedoms of the time, Anneliese was battling with the belief that she was possessed. It seemed there was no other explanation for the appearance of devilish visions during her prayers. Voices also began following her, saying Anneliese will “stew in hell”. She mentioned the “demons” to the doctors only once, explaining that they have started to give her orders. The doctors seem unable to help, and Anneliese lost hope that medicine was going to be able to cure her.

In the summer of 1973, her parents visited different pastors to request an exorcism. Their requests were rejected and they were given recommendations that the now 20 year old Anneliese should continue with medication and treatment. It was explained that the process by which the Church proves a possession (Infestatio) is strictly defined, and until all the criterium is met, a Bishop can not approve an exorcism. The requirements, to name a few, include an aversion to religious objects, speaking in a language the person has never learned, and supernatural powers.

In 1974, after supervising Anneliese for some time, Pastor Ernst Alt requested a permit to perform the exorcism from the Bishop of Wurzburg. The request was rejected, and a recommendation soon followed saying that Anneliese should live even more of a religious lifestyle in order to find peace. The attacks did not diminish, and her behavior become more irratic. At her parents house in Klingenberg, she insulted, beat, and began biting the other members of her family. She refused to eat because the demons would not allow it. Anneliese slept on the stone floor, ate spiders, flies, and coal, and even began drinking her own urine. She could be heard screaming throughout the house for hours while breaking crucifixes, destroying paintings of Jesus, and pulling apart rosaries. Anneliese began committing acts of self-mutilation at this time, and the act of tearing off her clothes and urinating on the floor became commonplace.

After making an exact verification of the possession in September 1975, the Bishop of Wurzburg, Josef Stangl, assigned Father Arnold Renz and Pastor Ernst Alt with the order to perform “The Great Exorcism” on Anneliese Michel. The basis for this ritual was the “Rituale Romanum”, which was still, at the time, a valid Cannon Law from the 17th century. It was determined that Anneliese must be saved from the possession by several demons, including Lucifer, Judas Iscariot, Nero, Cain, Hitler, and Fleischmann, a disgraced Frankish Priest from the 16th century, and some other damned souls which had manifested through her. From September '75 until July '76, one or two exorcism sessions were held each week. Anneliese’s attacks were sometimes so strong that she would have to be held down by 3 men, or even chained up. During this time, Anneliese found her life somewhat return to normal as she could again go to school, take final examinations at the Pedagogic Academy in Wurzburg, and go to church.

The attacks, however, did not stop. In fact, she would more often find herself paralyzed and falling unconscious than before. The exorcism continued over many months, always with the same prayers and incantations. Sometimes family members and visitors, like one married couple that claims to have “discovered” Anneliese, would be present during the rituals. For several weeks, Anneliese denied all food. Her knees ruptured due to the 600 genuflections she performed obsessively during the daily exorcism. Over 40 audio tapes record the process, in order to preserve the details.

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continuation…

The last day of the Exorcism Rite was on June 30th, 1976, and Anneliese was suffering at this point from Pneumonia. She was also totally emaciated, and running a high fever. Exhausted and unable to physically perform the genuflections herself, her parents stood in and helped carry her through the motions. “Beg for Absolution” is the last statement Anneliese made to the exorcists. To her mother, she said, “Mother, I’m afraid.” Anna Michel recorded the death of her daughter on the following day, July 1st, 1976, and at noon, Pastor Ernst Alt informed the authorities in Aschaffenburg. The senior prosecutor began investigating immediately.

A short time before these final events unfolded, William Friedkin’s “The Exorcist” (1974) came to the cinemas in Germany, bringing with it a wave of paranormal hysteria that flooded the nation. Psychiatrists all over Europe reported an increase of obsessive ideas among their patients. Prosecutors took more than 2 years to to take Annaliese’s case to court, using that time to sort through the bizarre facts. Anneliese’s parents and the two exorcists were accused of negligent homocide. The “Klingenberg Case” would be decided upon two questions: What caused the death of Anneliese Michel, and who was responsible?

According the forensic evidence, “Anneliese starved to death”. Specialists claimed that if the accused would have begun with forced feeding one week before her death, Anneliese’s life would have been saved. One sister told the court that Anneliese did not want to go to a mental home where she would be sedated and forced to eat. The exorcists tried to prove the presence of the demons, playing taped recordings of strange dialogues like that of two demons arguing about which one of them would have to leave Anneliese’s body first. One of the demons called himself Hitler, and spoke with a Frankish accent (Hitler was born in Austria). Not one of those present during the exorcism ever had a doubt about the authenticity of the presence of these demons.

The psychiatrists, whom had been ordered to testify by the court, spoke about the “Doctrinaire Induction”. They said that the priests had provided Anneliese with the contents of her psychotic behavior. Consequentially, they claimed, she later accepted her behavior as a form of demonic possession. They also offered that Anneliese’s unsettled sexual development, along with her diagnosed Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, had influenced the psychosis.

The verdict was considered by many as not as harsh as they expected. Anneliese’s parents, as well as the exorcists, were found guilty of manslaughter resulting from negligence and omitting first aid. They were sentenced to 6 months in jail and probation. The verdict included the opinion of the court that the accused should have helped by taking care of the medical treatment that the girl needed, but instead, their use of naive practices aggrivated Anneliese’s already poor constitution.

A commission of the German Bishop-Conference later declared that Anneliese Michel was not possessed, however, this did not keep believers from supporting her struggles, and it was because so many believed in her that Anneliese’s body did not find peace with death. Her corpse was exhumed eleven and a half years after her burial, only to confirm that it had decayed as would have been expected under normal circumstances. Today, her grave remains a place of pilgrimage for rosary-praying and for those who believe that Anneliese Michel bravely fought the devil.


The Ritual (Rituale Romanum) is one of the official books of the Roman Rite. It contains all the services performed by a priest that are not in the Missal and Breviary.


seems most don’t believe she was possessed…

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RichT:
Common sense or not, many people don’t even know whether something is new age or not. My sister for example, proceeded to tell me about her massage therapist who was doing some “energy work” with her. When I aksed what her MT called the “energy work”, she replied, " Reiki, I think." After I showed her my Christian Guide to Alternative Medicine, she just about fell over backwards when she read the Reiki Masters channel spirit guides to help them with their work. She has since found a new MT.
well, i guess it’s good you knew and were able to inform her… i
would have been like her, wouldn’t have had a clue… lol

🙂
 
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RichT:
There is a huge difference in knowing your enemy and doing battle against him by yourself. It is important to know your enemy and the ways he can attack you and take over your life. Think of those who dabble in New Age stuff without knowing any better. Before you know it, they are deeply involved in something much bigger than they imagined.

I prefer to know the capabilities of my enemy so I can steer clear of his evil ways, however, I wouldn’t think of entering into battle without my Savior and His army of saints and angels leading the way.

I would suggest reading The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis. This book will give you a different point of view, and will probably reinforce the importance of knowing your enemy.
God isn’t just a father that we can run to when someone picks on us. We can’t expect Jesus to fight all of our battles. The way I see it, every time we make a right decision, we have claimed a victory over Satan. But that isn’t the only part we should be playing in this war. And demonology isn’t just the study of demon ranks and tendencies and personalities. It also encompasses the methods demons use to assist the spread of evil in today’s world. Take possession, since it seems to be the primary subject here. Demons don’t just jump out of bushes into a person’s soul. It is a sin, usually a mortal sin, that opens up the soul to the entity. The exorcist must identify the demon possessing a person before it becomes possible to drive the demon out. And what branch of pseudo-science assists in identifying demons? Demonology. And this isn’t just some whacked out theory. It comes from Scripture:

“And Jesus asked him, saying, ‘What is thy name?’ And he said, ‘Legion’: because many devils were entered into him.”
-Luke 8:30

Often demons derive their names from their purpose, number, or the sin they thrive on.
 
I don’t know, I feel a calling from God to help individuals that are struggling with this type of problem. Of course I know I could not do an Exorcism by myself but, I feel drawn to help in some way, either by helping the priest in one or helping a family or person by gathering information on their symptoms then giving it over to the priest for him to discern if the Church needs to get involved.

I believe my faith is strong and can not be shakened no matter what occurs. I have faith in God and in Jesus Our Saviour with all my being and I feel I can contribute in the freeing of people from demonic forces.

I realise that much prayer is involved and I must spiritually train for it because it is dangerous but I’m willing to confront it for the sake of someone’s soul. I will talk to my priest about this and see how i should proceed on this.
 
Check out in Luke where Jesus says that we should rejoice not because of the casting out of demons granted but because “your names are written in heaven…”

On the other hand, St. Thomas Aquinas had no no fear investigating much, e.g. asking questions, because he knew that he was searching for the truth (he was doing THEOLOGY however, not DEMONOLOGY).

I think (and this is all opinion) one would derive as much kowledge about the enemy studying God because he or she would be able to compare God (perfection) to the opposite of such by deduction.
And that which is evil would quickly become apparent.

God bless
Aaron
 
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aaronjmagnan:
Check out in Luke where Jesus says that we should rejoice not because of the casting out of demons granted but because “your names are written in heaven…”

On the other hand, St. Thomas Aquinas had no no fear investigating much, e.g. asking questions, because he knew that he was searching for the truth (he was doing THEOLOGY however, not DEMONOLOGY).

I think (and this is all opinion) one would derive as much kowledge about the enemy studying God because he or she would be able to compare God (perfection) to the opposite of such by deduction.
And that which is evil would quickly become apparent.

God bless
Aaron
good thought…

🙂
 
With so many young people dabbling in the occult, a few more knowledgeable demonologists would be very helpful.

It is so easy to write off a possession as a some sort of psycosis. I would think that most psychiatrist would say there is no such thing as a demonic possession. Some folks are so off the wall that it is difficult to determine if someone is really demonically possessed, or merely deranged. In the 60’s and 70’s it was LSD and acting crazy was symtomatic of drug use or addiction.

Now we have other drugs being used, but the kids are into ‘letting’ spirits take over their bodies (as in the Wiccan practice’ to let ‘divinity’ take over their bodies.)

Even if one films every exorcism session, it would be difficult to prove a demonic possession in court, because all the secular psychiatrists will say it is simply a mental problem.

In the story presented, the priests and family were a bit negligent in not recognizing that the girl was in very poor health. Forced feeding was probably what she needed first, even if they had to strap her down. One thing it did point out was that sometimes it takes quite a while (many weeks or months) to complete an exorcism. It is not as instant as it appears in scriptures.

The devil has covered his tracks well, and as they say the smartest thing he ever did was to convince folks that he does not exists. Once people believe he doesn’t exists, then they start to think that maybe God and Jesus does not exist, and then Satan has the upper hand. When we stop believing then we can really become lost.

I think the reason, why so many atheists and agnostic abound today, is because Satan has laid low and disguised himself well among the mentally ill.

Searching for demons does not sound like a way to have a fun time on a Saturday night. It’s downright creepy and very dangerous.
 
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johnshelby:
as to the study of demonology, Albertus Magnus said,
A daemonibus docetur, de daemonibus docet, et ad daemones ducit (“It is taught by the demons, it teaches about the demons, and it leads to the demons”)

a little too scary for me…

🙂
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wcknight:
With so many young people dabbling in the occult, a few more knowledgeable demonologists would be very helpful.

It is so easy to write off a possession as a some sort of psycosis. I would think that most psychiatrist would say there is no such thing as a demonic possession. Some folks are so off the wall that it is difficult to determine if someone is really demonically possessed, or merely deranged. In the 60’s and 70’s it was LSD and acting crazy was symtomatic of drug use or addiction.

Now we have other drugs being used, but the kids are into ‘letting’ spirits take over their bodies (as in the Wiccan practice’ to let ‘divinity’ take over their bodies.)

Even if one films every exorcism session, it would be difficult to prove a demonic possession in court, because all the secular psychiatrists will say it is simply a mental problem.

In the story presented, the priests and family were a bit negligent in not recognizing that the girl was in very poor health. Forced feeding was probably what she needed first, even if they had to strap her down. One thing it did point out was that sometimes it takes quite a while (many weeks or months) to complete an exorcism. It is not as instant as it appears in scriptures.

The devil has covered his tracks well, and as they say the smartest thing he ever did was to convince folks that he does not exists. Once people believe he doesn’t exists, then they start to think that maybe God and Jesus does not exist, and then Satan has the upper hand. When we stop believing then we can really become lost.

I think the reason, why so many atheists and agnostic abound today, is because Satan has laid low and disguised himself well among the mentally ill.

Searching for demons does not sound like a way to have a fun time on a Saturday night. It’s downright creepy and very dangerous.
well, in this particular case, the Church agreed it was not a true case of possession… and as stated, i’m sure possession is extremely rare… and personally, i don’t believe a baptised person in communion with God can be possessed…

doesn’t mean Satan isn’t real, doesn’t mean he can’t cause
us harm… but, as the soul is intregal to the person, just as the body is, i believe to be posessed, Satan would have to have posession of body and soul… he might be able to cause bodily pain and suffering, as in the case of Job, but he wasn’t allowed to touch Job’s soul… and Job never cursed God ( one of the requirements for diagnosis of a posession )…

and like i’ve said over and over… this is just an opinion…

and, one last point… when you said…

“I think the reason, why so many atheists and agnostic abound today, is because Satan has laid low and disguised himself well among the mentally ill.”

that’s a very… provoking statement… Satan doesn’t have to disguise himself as mentally ill… he shows himself proudly in Hollywood and Vegas, in Biloxi and Mobile, in government and churchs… he only has to disguise his involvement, and he has no problem doing that…

🙂
 
Satan is alive and well, as you say in Hollywood and elsewhere, unfortunately a lot folks don’t believe he even exists.

My point is that a lot of people do not believe in anything supernatural, good or evil.

My guess is that an atheist who encountered a posessed person would just chalk it up to a psychotic episode. Maybe it is a bad assumption but I think atheist don’t believe in God because they don’t believe in anything supernatural.
 
well, an atheist is already possessed, as Satan possesses his soul…

🙂
 
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