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I have this friend. We were never close but we knew eachother. Well I saw her yesterday and she is in a bad way. I know from a reliable source that a few years ago she tried end it. Her husband left her, you all know the story. Well now she works and comes home thats it. I am trying to at least get her out of the house once in awhile. I am thinking bible study for now. One is beginning this week. Please give me a few pointers on what to say and what not to say. Any help would be appreciated.
 
I think inviting her to Bible study would be great! 👍 Also, maybe you can invite her to Mass with you, and maybe to do other things (eating out, going to events, hanging out at your house, whatever).

As far as what to say, I’d keep it casual to start – just try to get her to spend some time with you. Once that happens, I bet your friendship will blossom and maybe then she’ll open up to you. I’d say you should definitely pray for her and pray to know how you can help her. Trust God – He’ll give you the words with the right timing. :yup: :hug1:
 
Good on you for wanting to help your friend. :hug1: Some folks avoid depressed people like they’re going to catch plague from them.

I don’t know about what to say but I know a little bit about what not to say. Yep, gently encouraging her out of the house is great. I suppose my “advice” is more long-term, if you do end up spending time with her over say months or a year or so.

(There’s all the usual rubbish like, “snap out of it”, “get over yourself”, “pull yourself together”, “other people are worse off than you” that I assume you don’t need to be warned off saying - you wouldn’t be going out of your way to help this person if you thought like that. 🙂 )

I spent most of my childhood depressed and have had two major 4-5 year long bouts as an adult. After the first bout I felt such furious resentment of those who were supposed to care for me that I endured the second “in secret” without any treatment or medication because treatment would have meant I couldn’t hide it from them and I sure as heck wasn’t going to let them anywhere near my illness a second time. That was the wrong thing to do but there you go, long story. The reason I felt such fury was that one of them in particular tried to impose his conditions and his timetable on my illness and my recovery … there I was at the beginning of something that had been brewing all my life and would last for another five years, and I got, “well, I’ve sat here with you for two hours and you haven’t cheered up at all so I’m clearly wasting my time and I’m going to go and wash the dishes/do something more important that isn’t a waste of my time/leave to go home now.” Now, as you’re not in a BF/GF relationship with this person, nothing so intense will happen … but I learned that one thing you can’t do with a depressed person is put your conditions on how they react and cope and deal with it and eventually heal. You must respect that it is their illness to deal with as best they can.

Dealing with a depressed person can be real hard work, and it would have been OK with me if abovementioned person had said, “look, I’m finding this heavy going, I need some time away right now, but I’ll be back, see you then”. The last thing a depressed person needs is to be made feel that relationships they value are dependant on them jumping through someone else’s hoops, or that to be loved and acceptable they have to pretend everything is now rosy. That’s one reason why Bible study or going to Mass might be a good thing - it gives her other company rather than a close one-to-one relationship and might help dilute that sort of concern.

I’d really like to emphasise that the fact that a depressed person continues to be depressed does NOT mean for a minute that your friendship and encouragement is not having an effect. It can be like clutching a bit of floating timber in the sea - you’re still in the sea of your illness with no rescue in sight, but that bit of wood is what’s keeping you afloat! If you’re going to help a depressed person, though, you have to get rid of any idea in the short term of “expecting results” in your terms. And it’s absolutely OK to need time away from the friendship but that should be expressed in a way that doesn’t make the depressed person feel they have lost your support because they haven’t fixed themselves up when they “should have”.

HTH, though you probably don’t actually need any of this advice. I wish I’d had someone want to help me in this way when I was at rock bottom. 🙂
 
Guitar, thanks so much, and actually thats what I am looking for. I dont want to go to this bible study and then lead her on that im going to make it a job. You know what i mean. I think its worse to do exactly what you said, have great expectations on this. I figured to just get her out of the house is the first step… I called her yesterday and asked her if she wanted to go, she said ill do anything to get out of this house. I know i cant cure her, Only God can. But i dont want to come on preachey either, you know what I mean. Im hoping she will find something in this to bring her back to God. Then i figure let him work his magic. I have another friend who she knows who is going to try to get her out too. Because i have such a busy life, Not that i dont want to help more, but i have so many people to do for at this time in my life. I want her to know if she calls and it takes me 2 or 3 days to get back its not her, its my life. thanks again I also know that everyone gets a time like this in thier life. no matter who you are. Its just some can get out of it quicker than others. no one knows why.
 
By being the depressed person on several occasions in my life, I have learned this very difficult lesson:

In the end, the only person (short of the Divine) who can truly change the depressed person is … the depressed person. You will be a great help to your friend by showing her love and companionship, waking up her sense of what is good and right in the world, and lending her strength and courage to battle this. So long as you realize that the ultimate responsibility for healing her is on her own shoulders, because until she makes up her mind that she’s sick and tired of this state, she’s not going to take the appropriate action to change it.

I have only once pulled out of a serious, clinical depression without the use of antidepressants, and it was one of the hardest things I’ve done in my entire life. The other times, I made my road much easier by persisting in doctors’ visits until I found the medication that worked for my chemistry. She may well have to do the same, before this is all over. You might offer to go with her to a doctor’s appointment so she can begin to treat this medically, if she hasn’t already. Despite what all the critics say (many of them well-intentioned Believers), we are three-part beings, and the physical part needs help every bit as much as the spiritual and mental parts. It is amazing how an imbalance in one chemical can throw off a person’s entire life … but it can.

Blessings to you for helping to bear your friend’s burden. This is such a saving grace. I pray that your gift will be accepted and will accomplish much in her.

In Christ,

Mary
 
thankyou surf(name removed by moderator)ure, And pray for me that i can help just a little. And Good for you. You should be very proud of yourself for what you have overcome. Im sure like the rest of life it is a battle every day. But I will keep you in my prayers also.
 
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Oh I wasn’t trying to tell you anything. I just liked the video and thought you might enjoy it too.
Oh ok now problem. I thought there was somekind of message in it i missed. But hey thanks. everybodys advice helps.
 
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