Depression?

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For me, I came to in a mental ward after an attempted suicide. I got counseling after the fact. Some counseling before hand may have prevented that.
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i can relate to waht you are saying.

Have you tried the rosary? It relieves my depression and various other problems. Also, it helps to go to daily Mass. do you do that?

Jesus takes us away from this mundane, $-centered world.

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PrayforPurity,

How are you today? Can you give us an update on how you are feeling? I’m praying for you. 🙂
 
PrAyFoRpUrItY:

SSRIs are only one form of medication to treat depression; a competent psychiatrist could, through process of elimination, prescribe the correct medication to treat your depression; s/he may also prescribe a combination of drugs to be taken in tandem. All forms of depression are not alike; all brain chemistries are not alike; all human ability to metabolize these very powerful drugs is not alike from one person to the next.

I believe a psychologist could help to assess your depression and work in conjunction with an M.D. to get you on a medication regimen if it is called for. You may just be suffering from situational depression and not a brain chemistry problem, and therapy might in that case be more helpful than chemistry.

Don’t underestimate the power of depression or the power of the drugs to treat depression. I have been medicated for bipolar disorder for 19 years and, although life can still be difficult and at times unmanageable, I am infinitely more content than I was before I was diagnosed. And I have had this disorder all my life, entered into therapy at age 14, and was not diagnosed until I was 37 years of age. I would say, “waste no time.” The flip side is my friend in Los Angeles who took seven doses of Prozac and blew off his head with a shotgun. He was sober, he was spiritual, he was beautiful, and he got a fatal prescription. Tread lightly, but move forward.

wcknight:

Bipolar disorder does not disappear once the medication is terminated. It is a lifelong disability. A doctor who kept someone on medication for bipolar disorder was doing the right thing. It is extremely harsh and distressing to quit these medications and symptoms eventually return. I intend to stay on my meds; diagnositic bloodwork has shown absolutely no variation in liver values, kidney values or any other levels I have checked every year. Medication, if taken correctly, gives the sufferer back his or her life. What’s silly about that?

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Pathfinder,

Thankfully I am long over that part of my life. That was over 25 years ago, and I haven’t had any reoccurance of any sort of depression.

I do try to make the rosary and prayer, in general, a big part of my life. Although sometimes that may get neglected a bit more than would be optimal.

I’m not a doctor, so I know very little about bipolar or any other disorder. HOWEVER if the labels on the medicine warns to not take it for more than a few months, or serious sides effects may occur, and the side effects DO occur, then I would think it is wrong for a doctor to continue prescribing that medication.

In fact that particular doctor DOUBLED the dosage, and the side effect symtoms have become much worse. The circumstances around this case and doctor are a bit suspect to say the least.

First off, the doctor saw my niece initially for about 15 minutes (about 2 years ago), and immediately prescribed the medication for bipolar disorder. Maybe this guy works really quick, but I would think it would a bit more than one visit and 15 minutes to determine a serious illness.

A far as I know, my niece has not shown any sign of being suicidal. My sister lived with her for quite a while and my sister says my niece may have been down because of her recent divorce and that is understandable, but she did not appear especially depressed, suicidal or manic.

A second doctor saw her recently and said her problem was the medication and its prolonged use and not any form of depression or bipolar activity. He recommends that she stops the medication as soon as possible,

Personally I think the first doctor was premature and lazy with his diagnosis, and to make things worse, he was irresponsible in prescribing more prolonged use and increase in a dangerous medication. Evidently the second doctor appears to agree with that.
 
wcknight said:
Pathfinder,

A second doctor saw her recently and said her problem was the medication and its prolonged use and not any form of depression or bipolar activity. He recommends that she stops the medication as soon as possible,

Personally I think the first doctor was premature and lazy with his diagnosis, and to make things worse, he was irresponsible in prescribing more prolonged use and increase in a dangerous medication. Evidently the second doctor appears to agree with that.
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thiss is just me… not trying to give advice cause not a doctor… but i think that a lot of psychological issues are really spritiual ones… or emotional ones. In any case, i have some “isuses” myself… and yet i take my problems to Jesus. I am not saying i am always good at that… because i’m not. But when i do, my problems get 'solved" far better than i thnk any doctor could do. I have been to counseling and foiund that the cousneling, for some strange reason, made me feel WORSE… so i don’t think people should just assume counseling is the way to go… except couseling with Jesus and the saints…

Has your sister tried a novena to St. Jude? I have found that very effective.

God bless…
 
Just a note: remember that for all the posts you’ve read here, there are that many people – probably times at least 30 the number of posters – that are including you in their prayers.

My wife was depressed and, through prayer, talking it through with priests and psychologists/psychiatrists, and medication, she is doing much better. It took a while for the psych to find the right medicine and correct dosage, so be patient if you indeed do suffer from depression and have medication as part of the solution.

In any case, continue to pray and remember that God loves you so incredibly much, even at times when He seems to be absent or uncaring. He loves you so much more than even you do and be sure to hang your hat on that.:blessyou: (And the physical exercise is a good idea, too.)

God bless,
Dan
 
pathfinder7 said:
thiss is just me… not trying to give advice cause not a doctor… but i think that a lot of psychological issues are really spritiual ones… or emotional ones. In any case, i have some “isuses” myself… and yet i take my problems to Jesus. I am not saying i am always good at that… because i’m not. But when i do, my problems get 'solved" far better than i thnk any doctor could do. I have been to counseling and foiund that the cousneling, for some strange reason, made me feel WORSE… so i don’t think people should just assume counseling is the way to go… except couseling with Jesus and the saints…

Has your sister tried a novena to St. Jude? I have found that very effective.

God bless…
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Not my sister but my niece has the problem. But that is an excellent suggestion. One of my problems way back when is that I had fallen away from the Church, and of course shortly afterwards part of my getting a whole lot better was renewed attention to my faith.

I believe also that spiritual health can very often do wonders for emotional or psychological health. Although my counselor at one point thought that my strict Catholic upbinging was part of the problem, I never for a second thought that to be the case.

We Catholics may be a bit uptight in some cases, but for me it was not a problem. I’m not one to go out and just hang loose and go wild, but I doubt that would have made my life better. I’m not a party goer and I’m not into wild and crazy things. That’s probably not what he meant anyway.
 
We should not undermine, and it is wrong, medicine and medications absolutely in favour of depending on prayer alone - this is to undermine the fact that medicine and medications can be gifts of God to mankind in the struggle against human suffering. Also, depending on prayer alone can be (not always) a passive type of attitude that refuses to take steps gifted by God that may be available and should be utilized…and perhaps even necessarily so in sound common sense.

Be that as it may, medicine and medications are not God and can wrong since they are limited by the fact of being human and being in the human realm and not infallible. At times we should in prudence, wisdom and common sense seek the advice of the doctor and even take prescribed medications and always giving the doctor feedback on any side effects or problems. This is common sense. It is prudent and it is wisdom…

…and always we should without fail pray and be people of prayer in all things and at all times…

Depression can be a very serious illness indeed needing medical treatment. It can start off as only mild and it may remain and then cease without moving out of relatively mild; however, it can also start out as mild and then move into the realm of severe and finally can incapacitate to a tremendous degree even into not thinking rationally. Depression that perseveres over a lengthy period should be drawn to the attention of a doctor.

“Common sense is the guide of all the virtues” (St. Albert - Ancient Rule of Carmel)

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danonwaveland said:
Just a note: remember that for all the posts you’ve read here, there are that many people – probably times at least 30 the number of posters – that are including you in their prayers.

My wife was depressed and, through prayer, talking it through with priests and psychologists/psychiatrists, and medication, she is doing much better. It took a while for the psych to find the right medicine and correct dosage, so be patient if you indeed do suffer from depression and have medication as part of the solution.

In any case, continue to pray and remember that God loves you so incredibly much, even at times when He seems to be absent or uncaring. He loves you so much more than even you do and be sure to hang your hat on that.:blessyou: (And the physical exercise is a good idea, too.)

God bless,
Dan
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Thanks Dan…and a really excellent and balanced post that does reflect an attitude of common sense.

I suffer what was a very serious indeed case of Bipolar Disorder and have done so over a 35yr or so span - it was never expected by medicine that I would know good mental health again. I was severely psychotic. I no longer am and medicine cannot explain this fully since my diagnosis was totally negative. I can. It is due to prayer and to the prayer of many holy people I know, to my now excellent doctor - a psychiatrist for whom I have nothing but admiration for her as a professional, and to the medication that I take with gratitude to God for His many gifts to mankind in the struggle against human suffering. And with endless gratitude that we can indeed be with our God in prayer and that He does hear and grant our prayers always.

Thanks again, Dan…an excellent post!👍 …Barb:)
 
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