Description of an evil force I saw/felt last night

[teresanneheath]

I think the homelessness, addiction, and mental illness are symptoms of the destruction of the family and life that are the primary targets of demonic attacks. Here is some theologically sound analysis of why the family unit is the favorite target:

Hi John Paul Two Too:

Of course, the devil likes to destroy families because families grow people, and people are stuff of societies, the bricks of the edifice. Okay, and now on to my next crazy-man-in-the-church story, which is mainly a “what I heard” and not a “what I saw” story.

One day (oh, I’d say around 1994 or so) I was at daily mass (Our Lady of Pompei Church in Greenwich Village NYC, again). It was the noon mass, if I recall rightly. And Father Tesarolo was saying mass, a wonderful Italian priest from the old school (Scalabrini Priests, but I diverge). Anyway, there was a mad man in the church (presumably a homeless man who had wandered in). We could all hear him (calling out in a crazy gibberish, which seem to be building at the Consecration). He had a very strange voice , which was an inhuman voice–I cannot quite describe it–well, it sounded a little like record set on too-high speed. Anyway, no one in the church was moving or turning to him, because I think we all sensed this would only encourage him.

And we all (I sensed–because we all became very still at once) starting silently praying. I remember praying that the man would be quiet. Anyway, I think Father Tesarolo must have just looked at him from the altar–something, because all of a sudden, it was as if someone had just pulled the plug on the blaring boom box of gibberish the fellow was (effectively) unleashing on us. That is, he went dead silent, and it cut off just as if someone had simply pulled the plug or turned the volume all the way down. He simply stopped talking, mid-gibber.

Then (no one turned around to look), the guy just got up and walked calmly out of the church. I could hear his steps, but didn’t turn to look. It wasn’t that we were afraid. We just felt this total peace. You could have knocked anyone of us over with a feather, so profound was the peace.

So, the Lord showed us wonders that day. I’ll never forget.

Oh, I just remembered a really neat story about when a pigeon got into the church (St. Anthony of Padua Church on Sullivan Street in Greenwich Village). This story is getting too long, I’ll tell you tomorrow.

Sincerely, Teresa

 

[Shoshana]

Mr TwoToo: Ther eis nothign in thei article that say sone can use imprecatory prayer against evil spirits.

I repeat my bad type statement…Mr TwoToo: There is nothing in this article that says one can use imprecatory prayer.

 

[JohnPaulTwoToo]

Mr TwoToo: Ther eis nothign in thei article that say sone can use imprecatory prayer against evil spirits.

Late night at the coven? :yawn: The Feminist Agenda within the Catholic Church

 

[Coreopisis]

Late night at the coven? :yawn: The Feminist Agenda within the Catholic Church

JohnPaulTwoToo,
Why would you say such a nasty thing to Shoshana? I hope I am misunderstanding because that really is a horrible thing to say to someone.

Is it just her or do you hate all of us women. Sorry if I am misunderstanding please correct me.
Sarah

 

[Shoshana]

Late night at the coven? :yawn: The Feminist Agenda within the Catholic Church

I see this often…what a little knowledge does to one’s ego. This is truly a horrendous thing to say about anybody and I hope you do repent of your arrogance in assuming me to be a witch (coven?) and a feminazi. Both are truly erroneous statements and it is called detraction or slander for a simpler term.

But I do forgive you…God bless.

 

[Coreopisis]

I see this often…what a little knowledge does to one’s ego. This is truly a horrendous thing to say about anybody and I hope you do repent of your arrogance in assuming me to be a witch (coven?) and a feminazi. Both are truly erroneous statements and it is called detraction or slander for a simpler term.

But I do forgive you…God bless.

Shoshana,
I just want to say I am so sorry that anyone would say such a thing about you. It makes me seriously depressed because I know that a comment like that about me would bring me to tears and I would probably not be able to post anything again. I suppose I am to emotional. I was really hoping I was misunderstanding and that JohnPaul2 would explain it to me.

You’re handling this much better than I am. Again I am so sorry. I hope you’re not hurt. I don’t want JohnPaul2 hurt either so I hope he is ok. It is nice that you can forgive.

God Bless you!

 

[Shoshana]

Shoshana,
I just want to say I am so sorry that anyone would say such a thing about you. It makes me seriously depressed because I know that a comment like that about me would bring me to tears and I would probably not be able to post anything again. I suppose I am to emotional. I was really hoping I was misunderstanding and that JohnPaul2 would explain it to me.

You’re handling this much better than I am. Again I am so sorry. I hope you’re not hurt. I don’t want JohnPaul2 hurt either so I hope he is ok. It is nice that you can forgive.

God Bless you!

It is okay, please don’t be upset. This is not uncommon when you deal with this kind of subject…I have been called worse! And when you deal with this kind of subject, you seperate the wheat from the chaff. It is just the nature of the beast.

Be at peace…be happy…this is God’s will for us.

 

[Delraek]

Byers, Thank you, you have described perfectly what I could not. This is exactly what I learned through the Priest I was working with.

My son and I were both attacked physically by something unseen. Our pets (2 Ferrets and 2 Birds were also subject to them also and would hiss and attack things we couldn’t see. (They were trying to protect us it was really cute God bless their little hearts.) Later I ended up seeing “it” and it was a black shadow person, tall and very lean with long finger nails almost clawlike. It looked like a man in a tight black catsuit, except it wasn’t black, it was the absense of light if that makes any sense. My mom then later told me that she had seen the same thing when she was a child and it had choaked her. It was then that we realized it could be a generational curse. We begun praying and the attacks intensified and other people visiting us began seeing the shadow or a man in jeans and a shirt walk across my living room and through the wall. I would get punched, my hair pulled, kicked, laughed at, lungs crushed and all by a being I couldn’t see or touch or smell. My son got his CD tower thrown accross his room one night and then his cd’s moved accross the floor on their own but he was never directly assaulted as I was. I don’t know why. I prayed to St. Michael, I prayed to God, I prayed to Jesus, I confessed my sins, I went to church, recieved the sacrements and I prayed. I at one point commanded it to leave in the name of Jesus. Nothing worked until one night I was being punched over and over again and I could do nothing. I laid down on my bed in a ball and said in my head to Jesus “I am nothing without you, if you wish me to die now I accept because it is your will. Obviously I can do nothing against these demons.” That very moment I admitted complete and utter weakness and defeat the punches stopped instantaneously.

After more prayer the overall activity receeded However all was not gone and we still had little problems here and there. I began at this point, per the direction of the Priest, to document what was going on in my life at the time of the attacks and I noticed a coorelation to visits from a friend of mine. Whenever she would visit we would endure attacks for 2-3 days.

I ended up just asking questions of my friend to figure out why this was happening and it turned out that she had decided that she refused to believe in a God who would call being gay or having sex outside of marriage a sin. She then said “what kind of cruel God would create sexual beings and then make it a sin for us to be sexual.” I talked to her about it and then she said that she flat out refused to believe no matter what and that she was thinking about practicing Wicca. I told her I would pray for her and she said " I don’t care! Do what you want to do but I don’t believe in prayer." I decided at this point to eliminate her out of my life, not in a mean way, I’ve just been busy. I am not trying to be mean to her I just don’t like being attacked by demons. Anyway now the attacks are virtually gone. I still pray for her though.

All of this in the end has brought both my son and I very close to God. We live in what I believe to be a healthy fear of falling out of a state of grace. We now know first hand how real the battle is. It is so fortunate that my 13 year old son got to witness such things as he has no question about his faith or belief in God or the evil ones for that matter.

My point at the end of all this rambling is that generational curses and the other curses are real. Why and how? I have no idea and it doesn’t matter. Even if you still don’t believe pray about it. Pray that you don’t ever fall under a curse generational or otherwise.

I only share my experiance with all of you so that you can maybe learn from it. What we went through was terrifying and horrible. And it makes my stomach feel ill to read some of the things I have read on this thread.

As a result of our experiance we fear falling out of a state of grace, we fear offending God, we fear loosing his protection.

I will pray for all of you that you need not experiance what we went through to be able to see the truth and absolute danger we are all facing. I pray that God blesses you all with clarity of mind in such things.

Please be careful.

Wow! Scary stuff. Are you familiar with St. Padre Pio and his oppression by demons? He was also attacked and beaten.

 

[Coreopisis]

Wow! Scary stuff. Are you familiar with St. Padre Pio and his oppression by demons? He was also attacked and beaten.

Yes I’ve heard of this kind of thing with Padre Pio and I think if I were holy, like Padre Pio, I might find comfort in sharing such an experiance. However, I know better, I am far from being like Padre Pio.

For me I think other reasons more likely. Like the generational curses especially since my mom was choaked by a black shadow tall skinny figure when she was little. Since it has essentially happened to two generations I would think this is it.

One thing that makes me different is that I sought out religion to help me and Priests and holy water, scapulars, bibles, statues of holy people, and so forth. I suppose this is why the demons hate me so much. To make it worse, I suppose, I am always quick to send people to church or to a Priest when I suspect they might be going through anything that might be demonic. I don’t think the demons appreciate this. Maybe they knew I would do this when I was little?? who knows.

All the attacks have brought me much closer to God so great good has come from them. Lately I’ve been able to go to confession monthly and church weekly and I’ve almost eliminated all my sinning that I am aware of. The hardest for me is taking the Lords name in vain out of habit, and making fun of goofy people in my head because to me some people are so funny. I’ve almost got that under control with a few slip ups here and there. It’s interesting because now instead of punching me they are doing other things. Like just irritating things. For instance if I have plans to go somewhere my keys will disappear and I will find them only after praying, or someone will try to call me and my phone doesn’t ring…in general everything goes wrong. Instead of getting mad angry or frustrated though I offer it to the poor souls or I thank God for all that has went well that day. I am not sure how much longer they will try these tactics if I continue to be patient with it.

 

[Delraek]

Yes I’ve heard of this kind of thing with Padre Pio and I think if I were holy, like Padre Pio, I might find comfort in sharing such an experiance. However, I know better, I am far from being like Padre Pio.

For me I think other reasons more likely. Like the generational curses especially since my mom was choaked by a black shadow tall skinny figure when she was little. Since it has essentially happened to two generations I would think this is it.

One thing that makes me different is that I sought out religion to help me and Priests and holy water, scapulars, bibles, statues of holy people, and so forth. I suppose this is why the demons hate me so much. To make it worse, I suppose, I am always quick to send people to church or to a Priest when I suspect they might be going through anything that might be demonic. I don’t think the demons appreciate this. Maybe they knew I would do this when I was little?? who knows.

All the attacks have brought me much closer to God so great good has come from them. Lately I’ve been able to go to confession monthly and church weekly and I’ve almost eliminated all my sinning that I am aware of. The hardest for me is taking the Lords name in vain out of habit, and making fun of goofy people in my head because to me some people are so funny. I’ve almost got that under control with a few slip ups here and there. It’s interesting because now instead of punching me they are doing other things. Like just irritating things. For instance if I have plans to go somewhere my keys will disappear and I will find them only after praying, or someone will try to call me and my phone doesn’t ring…in general everything goes wrong. Instead of getting mad angry or frustrated though I offer it to the poor souls or I thank God for all that has went well that day. I am not sure how much longer they will try these tactics if I continue to be patient with it.

I most certainly don’t know anything about the “holier” part , but I guess it shows that if someone like Padre Pio can be attacked, so can the rest of us! I have a dvd titled “Interview with an Exorcist” featuring the chief exorcist of Spain, Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea. It’s very interesting and matter-of-fact. Nothing sensational at all, but it did interest me that one of the things he said was that the reason there are so many possessions now (and as in the time of Jesus) is because of so many people dabbling in the occult and spiritism.

 

[Coreopisis]

I most certainly don’t know anything about the “holier” part , but I guess it shows that if someone like Padre Pio can be attacked, so can the rest of us! I have a dvd titled “Interview with an Exorcist” featuring the chief exorcist of Spain, Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea. It’s very interesting and matter-of-fact. Nothing sensational at all, but it did interest me that one of the things he said was that the reason there are so many possessions now (and as in the time of Jesus) is because of so many people dabbling in the occult and spiritism.

I don’t have the experiance to be able to say that there are more posessions now but I do agree with Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea that this new age occult and spiritism has opened a door for it. I only say this because of my experiance with persons dealing in it. As with my friend, as she dabbles I get attacked. In fact one of my close friends and one of my cousins who I confide in are surprised at my accuracy at being to able to tell who is 'dabbling." It never fails, if someone around me is ‘dabbling’ I get attacked especially if I let them in my home. That is how I know. I don’t expect you to believe me nor do I need you to. I just know that what he says is true that it is possible for persons to bring demons to them with the occult practices.

Interesting to note, via my experiance with this, is that these persons I know who were ‘dabbling’ they would go on and on telling me they had nothing to fear and how they had protected themselves “by surrounding themselves with light” and so on and so forth and some would even go on to use Ouigi boards and whatever and because they didn’t see or feel anything negative they assumed they were fine. However they would come to my house and I would get glimpses of shadows around them and so forth and later when the person would leave I would be attacked. I think the demons were attached to these persons but able to remain hidden to that person, at least for now. They probably didn’t want the person to stop doing what they were doing.

One of these persons even told me they were having conversations with Angels who were giving them advice. While I was at this persons house having this conversation my 13 year old son called me from home saying that there was banging on the front and back door of our house at the same time and yet no one was there. Every time he shut the door apparently the banging would begin immediately. He would look out the window and no one was there. He called me to tell me about 6 times but mysteriously my cell phone never rang which is odd.

My son is completely of a logical mind and so wasn’t really scared just bewildered. He doesn’t know what to think of things he can’t explain or replicate. When I called him as I was on my way home I told him to just pray and he said “ok.” just totally matter-of-fact and then asked me what we are having for lunch and then told me about how far he had got on his video game. This surprised me because I would be freaked out if that happened to me. But like I said that sort of thing doesn’t scare him, nor does he dwell on it or care for that matter. I asked him what he thought of the banging on the door and all he could say is that it was weird.

I must add that he had no idea who I was with or what I ws talking about just that I was visiting a friend. I had to leave this person, go to confession and pray about it. (We consecrated our house to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and Jesus about a year ago. I think that is what kept them from coming inside.) I later told that person about the banging and she said that isn’t the first time this had happened to someone talking to her and that the demons attack lots of people that talk to her because they don’t like people hearing the “truth” from her because she is so close to God. Somehow I just don’t think this is true.

What does all this mean? I have no one to tell me for sure but I am guessing that these occult practices are not as “safe” as people think. I think that people who use these practices are very naive and often arrogant thinking they have some sort of power over a spiritual being because they visualized something. Ridiculus.

If I were a demon I would want people to think that they had special powers over me or that maybe I wasn’t even real so that they would communicate me more or so that I could manipulate them further into more things that are harmful to their soul. I might even want them to think I was God or an angel. That way I could really get my claws into them and when the time was right I would strike hard and their soul would be mine.
Seems like a good plan doesn’t it?

 

[Coreopisis]

Quick correction, we didn’t consecrate our house to the hearts of Mary and Jesus…we Enthroned our house to the hearts of Mary and Jesus… I always make that mistake.

 

[Delraek]

Coreopisis,

Very freaky! I wonder what all these athiests and pagans on this site would think if any of the stuff that happened to you ever heppened to them? But I suppose that would not be a good idea to the demons since these people’s souls are already where the devil wants them to be?? Who knows?

By the way, your son is pretty amazing - I’d have been freaking out!

I do have a question that you might know the answer to. I enjoy watching horror films (not the slasher kind), but people have told me that I’m inviting evil into my house by watching them! I guess I don’t see how that can be true when I’m not trying to communicate with any “spirits” or anything . What’s your thought? At least with these movies, I know that they’re fiction (unlike your past situation) so I never have any trouble falling asleep at night!

 

[Godi]

St. Benedict would instruct his Monks that were threatened/tempted by the evil one to make the sign of the Cross over their hearts & say the Hail Mary.

 

[Coreopisis]

Coreopisis,

Very freaky! I wonder what all these athiests and pagans on this site would think if any of the stuff that happened to you ever heppened to them? But I suppose that would not be a good idea to the demons since these people’s souls are already where the devil wants them to be?? Who knows?

By the way, your son is pretty amazing - I’d have been freaking out!

I do have a question that you might know the answer to. I enjoy watching horror films (not the slasher kind), but people have told me that I’m inviting evil into my house by watching them! I guess I don’t see how that can be true when I’m not trying to communicate with any “spirits” or anything . What’s your thought? At least with these movies, I know that they’re fiction (unlike your past situation) so I never have any trouble falling asleep at night!

We had a horrible house haunting we dealt with a year and a half ago so my son isn’t a novice by any means, however I still get frightened he does not. A priest explained to us that we need to worry about our souls first and foremost and that they can’t hurt our souls unless we allow it. That gave him alot of strength, plus he seems to be naturally brave. More so than me.

Together when my son and I pray together we say outloud that we CHOOSE with our own free wills that God gave us for our house to be a dwelling place of God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus as well as Mary and all the Saints and Angels of Heaven. Then we say that with our own free wills we reject Satin and all the fallen angels. (We came up with this on our own and just make sure to remind any listening beings of our choice. It makes us feel better.) We then go on to our prayers.

As part of making our house a dwelling place of God we got rid of all references to witchcraft such as Harry Potter books and movies and so on and so forth. I used to think that it was entertainment and getting rid of it was crazy talk. Now we don’t risk it. We do still have some video games about killing zombies but they are not about witchcraft or magic. Just guns and zombies. Boy that sounds horrible…but that is where I draw the line for us. I don’t mess around with ghost movies, books, shows, poltergeist, witchcraft, occult, or anything like that. Of course it frightens me to much at this point and I wont take the chance. It’s not worth it to me. (Once you’ve dealt with it in reality it isn’t entertaining to watch.)

As for horror movies I can’t provide direction and I don’t want to be responsible for providing such direction. I would check with the Catholic stance as they really do know what they are talking about. For me personally I aire on the side of extreme caution and just not even risk it. I try not to watch and I for sure wont bring such movies into my house. I can find plenty of other things to entertain me.

Oh…one side note. I did watch Emily Rose and the Exorcist because I felt that these were true stories and good to know. They terrified me and caused much prayer and loss of sleep but was good to know. I felt these were different from witchcraft stuff but I could be wrong.

 

[Delraek]

We had a horrible house haunting we dealt with a year and a half ago so my son isn’t a novice by any means, however I still get frightened he does not. A priest explained to us that we need to worry about our souls first and foremost and that they can’t hurt our souls unless we allow it. That gave him alot of strength, plus he seems to be naturally brave. More so than me.

Very creepy! Are you still living in that house? I’ve watched some of those “haunting” shows on Discovery or TLC (can’t remember which one) and some of those have really freaked me out! I know some are fiction, but probably not all…

Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea how the haunting started?

 

[Uzumaki_Naruto]

I have been searching for this thread for a while. Last night, I woke up in the middle of the night, it was about 2:00 am on my clock which translates to about 1:45… I woke up, this was not a dream, I am a very light sleeper, and I wake up from every little sound or noise coming from my wife, or kids down the hall… I woke up and I could feel an evil presence in the room. I could not see it, and it wasn’t holding me down, but I felt that it was near the foot of my bed. It was like evil was eminating from it. I pulled the covers up to my head, laid on my side and stared at my clock, and said a bunch of Hail Marys. That was the first prayer that popped into my head. At some point it must have left, because I fell asleep. The thing that worries me was that I could feel that it was after ME. I didn’t know what it was going to try to do, but I chose not wake my wife up because I was afraid that I would put her in danger. Looking at it today, the only hypothesis that seems rational to me is that for a long time, when it came to faith, I talked the talk, but didn’t walk the walk. Outside of mealtime and the kid’s bedtime, I don’t pray. I do some pretty crummy things…But then about a week and a half ago, a thought popped into my head. If I were to die, I wouldn’t be going to Heaven. It was absolutely clear. If I die, it’s Hell for me. So now i’m praying. I’ve started meditative prayer. I’ve started reading the Bible. I’ve started reading books on being a good catholic father and role model for my children. I’m praying the rosary. The only thing I can think of that would make this happen is that i’m working on turning from what I was. Tonight I hung rosaries from my kid’s beds by their heads, and also will have one near me. I’m also going to go to confession tomorrow, since i haven’t been there for quite a while…

 

[jmoburg]

Uzumaki Naruto— I got goosebumps from your post. You and I both share the similarity from wearing the team jersey to now wanting to paint our chests for the games, tailgate, scream and yell… and invite our friends. Blessed Salt, Holy Water… are the two things I can think of that would be useful for your room in addition to a crucifix, a Bible,St. Michael the archangel medal, a rosary etc. Pictures of John Paul the Great drive the Devil nuts (another conversation) but I’d recommend having them as well.

Father Corapi… (www.fathercorapi.com) check his stuff out, especially “end games” — discussions about good and evil, in the captivating audience style. Listening to Fr. Corapi pumps me up like a coach prior to the game, and I’ve begun using more tools, ones I’ve never used before, and they’ve given me strength. I know it might sound strange, but I NEVER read the Bible before, even though i’d go to Mass and hear it, I just never read it myself.

Now… the last 8-9 months, I’ve found myself a regular on this forum, going into Catholic Book stores… going to Confession, going to Mass, … I’m really being a Catholic. For me, part of it was from the fear of the Devil/Hell, and the other part was inspiration that I do credit to God. Good Luck fellow Catholic! So glad that you were able to find some peace, and that you’re making strides in all fashions of life.

 

[Uzumaki_Naruto]

the thing that i just cannot explain is that I KNOW 100% WITHOUT A DOUBT that what has been given to us in the Catholic faith is true. I have also noticed that Jesus spoke more about the dangers of Hell than he spoke about Heaven. I haven’t even made a halfhearted attempt to talk to Him, to listen to Him, to become a friend, or even to follow Him. I don’t know why it took so long to realize this, but I think that now that i’m coming around, I just may need the salt, holy water, and the other items you specified in my room (and kid’s room to be safe).

 

[CB_Catholic]

I have been searching for this thread for a while. Last night, I woke up in the middle of the night, it was about 2:00 am on my clock which translates to about 1:45… I woke up, this was not a dream, I am a very light sleeper, and I wake up from every little sound or noise coming from my wife, or kids down the hall… I woke up and I could feel an evil presence in the room. I could not see it, and it wasn’t holding me down, but I felt that it was near the foot of my bed. It was like evil was eminating from it. I pulled the covers up to my head, laid on my side and stared at my clock, and said a bunch of Hail Marys. That was the first prayer that popped into my head. At some point it must have left, because I fell asleep. The thing that worries me was that I could feel that it was after ME. I didn’t know what it was going to try to do, but I chose not wake my wife up because I was afraid that I would put her in danger. Looking at it today, the only hypothesis that seems rational to me is that for a long time, when it came to faith, I talked the talk, but didn’t walk the walk. Outside of mealtime and the kid’s bedtime, I don’t pray. I do some pretty crummy things…But then about a week and a half ago, a thought popped into my head. If I were to die, I wouldn’t be going to Heaven. It was absolutely clear. If I die, it’s Hell for me. So now i’m praying. I’ve started meditative prayer. I’ve started reading the Bible. I’ve started reading books on being a good catholic father and role model for my children. I’m praying the rosary. The only thing I can think of that would make this happen is that i’m working on turning from what I was. Tonight I hung rosaries from my kid’s beds by their heads, and also will have one near me. I’m also going to go to confession tomorrow, since i haven’t been there for quite a while…

God called to you (the thought that popped into your head) and you responded to His call, so the enemy has begun his attack, because he does not want you to be saved. You are now in a spiritual battle for your soul. You went from lukewarmness (which is the worst spiritual state to be in) to being on fire for God. Things can get rough in this battle, but Jesus has laid His hand on you and He will NOT let you go. He promised that. You may choose to leave His care because of your free will, but other than that Satan cannot snatch you from God’s hand. The enemy can be very subtle in his attacks, planting doubts, half-truths, needless fears, etc., into your mind, but he cannot control your mind and is not omniscient. Pray to the Holy Spirit and keep close to Jesus. The Eucharist is your strength, prayer is your weapon. St. Padre Pio used to call his Rosary his “weapon” against the very henious attacks from Satan he used to receive. Guard against returning to lukewarmness.

I have been in your shoes and have experienced these things. I am not a religious “fanatic” or unstable person, just a normal person, but I know that these things are very real. Thank God that He called you, and take comfort in the fact that Jesus is always there to help you and is more powerful than Satan. Welcome home and God Bless you.