Desperate and resentful with NFP

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I was unclear. I meant the methods without a thermometer (and I stated that in the post). When I learned NFP, that meant the kind with a thermometer, as opposed to the non-thermometer kind - rhythm. But now they have better stuff than rhythm to use if you don’t like taking your temperature.
 
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Odagled said:
…[M[y husband wanted to start following the catholic teaching of NFP, we’ve always been devout Catholics but for some reason we didn’t come across this until the past year.
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Sorry, but I don’t buy the fact that, after years of being a “devout Catholic,” Hubby was suddenly taken by surprise by Church teachings regarding contraception and NFP.
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…[T]o make things worst he suffers from erectile dysfunction most of the time…
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I wonder if Hubby’s sudden interest in NFP is an excuse to avoid sex so as to not risk the embarrassment of his ED interfering with intercourse. If that’s the case, a trip to the doctor would quite possibly remedy this problem.
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I have spoken to priests about this and there is only one answer, to offer this to God and to follow his way…
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I agree that this is the advice one might receive from someone who hasn’t got a clue.
 
ChuckB said:
I wonder if Hubby’s sudden interest in NFP is an excuse to avoid sex so as to not risk the embarrassment of his ED interfering with intercourse. If that’s the case, a trip to the doctor would quite possibly remedy this problem.
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I have this in mind, too…

But the fact that he might be want to stop contracepting for interest purpose is not a reason we should discourage it!
Because it is also the right choice.

More, perhaps his sexual difficulties have made him thinking more on Church teaching on fertility, and makes him changed is mind.

We don’t know.
 
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Again, a lack of understanding, preferring to see a priest as one who can navigate the medical conditions involved in a couple’s intimacy. This is not the priest’s area. Marital intimacy is up to the conscience of the couple with guidance from a doctor. The priest’s job is to NOT throw a wet blanket on the couple. If that’s what 1ke has chosen for her life, so be it, but don’t go around insisting that what you do is right for everyone else.

Who are you to decide what a priest area is? You really have it backwards. It is up to the conscience of the couple NOT with the guidance from a doctor BUT from the Church. Don’t insist that your poor understanding of the Church is what is right. Scripture says listen to the Church not to modernist interpretations. Jesus didn’t tell you that what you bound in heaven would be bound on earth but the Pope.
Ike guidance is moral and correct. Your taking umbrage with it sounds like a guilty conscience or at least an ill formed one.
 
Hoosier-Daddy said:
Step back a little. Billions of Catholic couples have had a marriage and approached menopause in the history of the Church. Long before modern technology. NFP can be practiced conservatively here.
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Yes, it can.

I agree with your post.

When you’re in that peri-menopause/menopausal-type phase, you just have to perhaps find a method and a way that works better for you.

I know and understand that it can be a trying and frustrating time, as I speak from personal experience, too.
 
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Who are you to decide what a priest area is?
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Priests don’t give medical advice. They aren’t doctors. I think most people know that, but some of the more fundamentalist types have trouble with that.

What the OP described falls into the medical category, not the morality category. They should follow a doctors advice, and follow their conscience also. If their conscience tells them to consult a priest for moral guidance, they should do that.

But, I honestly think that this is a questionable thread, as in, I don’t think it’s legitimate. I eluded to that in my first post in this thread. Because priests just don’t say stuff like that to middle aged married couples.
 
Priest don’t give medical advice but they do advise if a medical procedure is moral. Her husband does not want to use contraception. She does. You are trying to give moral advise which you are not qualified to do. I don’t believe you read the OP very carefully. She is asking for advice on a moral issue not a medical one. She doesn’t mention a doctors at all. What do you know what priest say. Most priest I know would give the same advice. Good priest would not advise them to commit sin. You seem ignorant on what the Church teaches.

The sixth commandment
 
Duly noted that you failed to give any specifics and ignored the Catechism.
 
🤣 Passive aggressive much 😜

Note again avoidance of offering substantiation of what the Church teaches. Instead ad hominems replace a reasoned discussion.
 
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Correct in what I believe as well you have no clue about what the Church teaches but accuse other of being ignorant without a clue of how to back up your statement.
 
More ad hominem attacks, not surprising, that sort of thing does come from ignorant mouths. I know you don’t have a clue what the Church teaches about anything. Ironic that you’re clumsily trying to use the sixth commandment as a device to silence another person.
 
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Such hubris for you to think that you can answer a pastoral question that has medical overtones with a passage from the catechism. Talk about a lack of a foundation for giving advice. You don’t even seem to understand the purpose of the book. If you aren’t the pot calling the kettle black there never was such a thing. I’ve never been called so many names before by anyone on these forums as you’ve done here.
 
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Do you believe artificial birth control or sterilization to be licit, moral, and pastoral?
 
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