Detroit's Tridentine Mass

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InOurLady said:
Merry Christmas to all! May the blessings of the new born Baby Jesus be with you all!

I just returned from the St. Josaphat Tridentine Christmas Mass and it was the most beautiful Mass that I have ever experienced in my life! It was beautiful to watch, heavenly to listen to musically, and unbelievable to participate in!

The choir made me weep with joy! The celebrant, Fr Seitz, sang the Christmas Mass parts so wonderfully, and his homily relayed th love of Jesus so sweetly; it was just awesome! Perhaps I was just very well disposed, but I had to write and tell everybody what a tremendous and delightful joy it was to be at that most Holy and reverant Mass. I will treasure that experience as a personal gift from the baby Jesus as long as I live!

Blessings to all!

InOurLady
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Fr. Seitz will be back at St. Josaphat tomorrow, 1/1/07 for a 9:30am Mass, it is a holy day on the Tridentine calender. Anyone who has been interested in attending a Tridentine Mass but has not wanted to be away from a home parish on a Sunday or Holy Day, this presents a good opportunity.

A Plenary Indulgence may be earned by attending mass and the singing of the Veni Creátor, which will be our Final Hymn, along with the usual conditions of Confession, Holy Communion, and prayers for the Holy Father’s intentions. Confessions will also be heard prior to mass so that you may take advantage of this gift from Holy Mother Church.
 
I am aware that some of you out there in the forum PM’ed me about the St. Philomena devotions. I hope many of you who knew about it came. It was a turned out well.

If any of you who came stayed for the devotions asked for some favor from the saint’s intercession and would like to report it, please feel free to post it in this separate thread http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=125438

To learn more about St. Philomena see www.philomena.it

Saint Philomena Powerful with God
Pray for Us
 
CathMass said:
Latin Classes are being offered at St. Josaphat
See detroitlatinmass.org/jospht/011407.pdf for more details. There is also information about a Gregorian Chant Workshop.
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Would there be any way that you could lift the section on Indulgences and paste it into Liturgy and Sacraments?

I think it is very important and I can’t seem to lift it or go to the link.

The Latin classes look GREAT!
If we didn’t have choir at 9:30 and Dad as an Usher at 6:30, we would be there.
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
Would there be any way that you could lift the section on Indulgences and paste it into Liturgy and Sacraments?

I think it is very important and I can’t seem to lift it or go to the link.
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This is part of the Tridentine Community News Column. I picked out what I thought was the most important.
We are pleased to report that we have finally located the
appropriate authoritative document: On January 29, 2000, William
Cardinal Baum, the head of the Apostolic Penitentiary (the
Vatican department which oversees Indulgences) issued a letter,
“The Gift of the Indulgence,” which stated:

“It is appropriate, but not necessary, that the sacramental
Confession and especially Holy
Communion and the prayer for the
Pope’s intentions take place on the
same day that the indulgenced work
is performed; but it is sufficient that
these sacred rites and prayers be
carried out within several days

***(about 20) ***before or after the
indulgenced act. Prayer for the
Pope’s intentions is left to the choice
of the faithful, but an “Our Father”
and a “Hail Mary” are suggested.
One sacramental Confession suffices
for several plenary indulgences, but
a separate Holy Communion and a
separate prayer for the Holy
Father’s intentions are required for
each plenary indulgence.” [Emphasis added]
You may read the original Vatican document in its entirety at:

vatican.va/roman_curia/tribunals/apost_penit/docume
nts/rc_trib_appen_pro_20000129_indulgence_en.html
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I hope this helps those who could not see the Indulgence link
 
CathMass said:
This is part of the Tridentine Community News Column. I picked out what I thought was the most important.

I hope this helps those who could not see the Indulgence link
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Fantastic!
Do you mind if I post it on L&S?
This is so important.
 
net:

You have blanket permission to reproduce any of the Tridentine Community News articles, in whole or in part, anywhere you like. Just mention the original source and provide a link to the original PDF document(s), please.

On another note, it appears Fr. Madey may not be our celebrant this Sunday. Another celebrant is being sought.
 
AlexB said:
net:

You have blanket permission to reproduce any of the Tridentine Community News articles, in whole or in part, anywhere you like. Just mention the original source and provide a link to the original PDF document(s), please.

On another note, it appears Fr. Madey may not be our celebrant this Sunday. Another celebrant is being sought.
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Thanks Alex!
 
News for this Sunday, January 21:

Fr. Louis Madey will indeed be the celebrant at St. Josaphat.

At 2:00 PM, Windsor’s St. Michael will have a distinguished visiting celebrant, Fr. Thomas Trottier of the Toronto Oratory. A special choir will accompany the Mass.

Oratorian Fathers are known for their support of both the Tridentine and Latin Novus Ordo liturgies. They run the revered London (Brompton), Oxford, and Birmingham Oratories. Famous Oratorian priests include Fr. Frederick Faber (“The Mass…is the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.”); Fr. Uwe-Michael Lang, author of “Turning Towards the Lord”, a treatise on ad orientem celebration of the Mass; and Toronto liturgical historian Fr. Jonathon Robinson.

See www.windsorlatinmass.org for directions.
 
Hey Alex,

I noticed Bishop Quiin and Bishop Boyea of our archdiocese are scheduled as celebrants in the near feature. I’ve been attending St. Josaphat’s on and off since June but down remember seeing **BISHOPS **lined up as celebrants–is this new?
 
Charleston:

Actually, three of the Detroit Auxiliary Bishops have celebrated Mass multiple times since the indult began in 2004: Quinn, Reiss, and Boyea. Bishop Boyea in particular returns every few months and is quite adept at the Traditional Mass.

As a result, St. Josaphat probably has episcopal celebrants more frequently than the typical parish.
 
AlexB said:
Charleston:

Actually, three of the Detroit Auxiliary Bishops have celebrated Mass multiple times since the indult began in 2004: Quinn, Reiss, and Boyea. Bishop Boyea in particular returns every few months and is quite adept at the Traditional Mass.

As a result, St. Josaphat probably has episcopal celebrants more frequently than the typical parish.
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That’s encouraging, Alex! I didn’t realize our indult TLM was so well accepted within our Archdiocese’s hierarchy–I guess I always assumed that most bishops can’t wait to squash the TLM. Nice to be shown I’m wrong.

:tiphat:
 
I am a USA citizen, and I also have a USA passport.

If I were to ever want to attend Mass in Windsor, would I have to get a visa, or could I just present my passport at the border, and come in?

Also, how early should somebody get to the border, if they plan to cross over into Windsor, to attend Mass? This is assuming that the person wants to get there at least 30 minutes before Mass starts.

Thanks.🙂
 
Until June 1, 2009, you don’t need a Passport to cross between the U.S. and Canada by land. (New legislation does require a Passport if you travel by air.) All you need is a photo ID and a birth certificate. You’ll not need a visa.

There is virtually never a delay crossing into Canada between 1:00 - 2:00 PM Sundays. Allow for a 5-10 minute delay returning to the U.S. at 3:30 PM. Total drive time from St. Josaphat to St. Michael: about 20 minutes including Customs.

You can speed things up by applying for a Nexus Card, which essentially lets you bypass Customs and cross through a dedicated Nexus lane. $50 for adults, free for children.
 
AlexB said:
Until June 1, 2009, you don’t need a Passport to cross between the U.S. and Canada by land. (New legislation does require a Passport if you travel by air.) All you need is a photo ID and a birth certificate. You’ll not need a visa.

There is virtually never a delay crossing into Canada between 1:00 - 2:00 PM Sundays. Allow for a 5-10 minute delay returning to the U.S. at 3:30 PM. Total drive time from St. Josaphat to St. Michael: about 20 minutes including Customs.

You can speed things up by applying for a Nexus Card, which essentially lets you bypass Customs and cross through a dedicated Nexus lane. $50 for adults, free for children.
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Thanks for the info.🙂

If I do present my passport when crossing into Canada by land from the USA, will I still need my birth certificate AND photo ID? I have both of these, but I am just wondering.

Also, will USA citizens need a visa after June 1, 2009?

And finally, what are the requirements for Canadian citizens who wish to cross over to the USA, especially those that are coming from Windsor to Detroit?

Thanks.🙂
 
If you have a Passport, you don’t need any other form of ID.

U.S. and Canadian citizens do not need a visa to cross in either direction, now or in the future, if your purpose is non-work related, which includes attending church.

Canada generally mirrors U.S. policy, so the same rules apply both ways. Detroit-Windsor is a friendly border; Detroiters think of Windsor as a suburb.
 
Big kudos to Peter Gulewich and the Detroit/Windsor Latin Mass community for the first Latin class at St. Josaphat’s. It’s exactly what I’ve been looking to find. Liturgical Latin taught with a textbook that uses the TLM as a backdrop–now how cool is that? I can’t believe we’ve got an instructor from Wayne State University doing this for free. (I’d be willing to pay good money for this sort of course!)

Best, :tiphat:
 
Charleston said:
Big kudos to Peter Gulewich and the Detroit/Windsor Latin Mass community for the first Latin class at St. Josaphat’s.
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I second that!

Unfortunately, I was not able to stay for the whole class.

Did we get any homework?
 
paterpetri said:
I second that!

Unfortunately, I was not able to stay for the whole class.

Did we get any homework?
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Yup, commit to memory the top of page 3 in the Scanlon textbook. Peter didn’t instruct on them, he just wanted us to memorize them with an eye toward the word endings.

Best, :tiphat:
 
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