Detroit's Tridentine Mass

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CathMass,

I read on masstimes.org that St Josaphat has a noon Mass on Thursdays. Is that right? What kind of Mass is it?

Also, I haven’t been to Canada in many years. So if I wanted to visit St Michael’s, what kind of ID will I need?

The noon Thursday Mass is a normal English Novus Ordo Mass. However there is Benediction and a Perpetual Novena in honor of Our Lady of Czestochowa. Feel free to come to this Mass and recieve special blessings from Jesus and Mary.

As far as Canada is concerned you should bring a passport and/or birth certificate.
 
**Thanks for the info…

And congrats on the thread, it looks like page 3 pretty soon! 🙂 **
 
**By the way, do you know if parking, or access routes are going to be closed by St Josaphat for the SuperBowl. If so, can you give us alternate parking/routes?

I’m not trying to get off topic, but if there are going to be visitors, they should be informed.**
 
We have no reason to believe that the parking situation will be different this weekend. At this parish council meeting this past Monday, nothing was said about any parking changes.

St. Josaphat is located at least one mile from Ford Field, so we aren’t impacted as closer entities might. Our cluster partner St. Joseph will be renting out spaces in their parking lot, however.

As a side note, if you plan to cross to Windsor often, consider getting a Nexus card, which lets you speed through customs on both sides: cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel/nexus/menu-e.html
 
A note to visitors in this thread who are from out of town.

If you are a visitor coming to Detroit for the Superbowl and planning on attending the Tridentine Latin Mass (or going to any of our cluster Masses) please note:

  • Please remember to dress appropriately for God’s House and the Blessed Sacrament. Women please be modest.
  • The Holy Rosary is prayed before the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass at 9:05 AM
  • Come join us in the social hall after Mass. The Angelus is prayed in the social hall at noon.
  • Confessions are normally heard at 9:15 AM if the priest is available.
*This weekend’s Celebrant is the *
Most Reverend Earl Boyea Auxiliary Bishop of Detroit.
 
Greetings, I am new to this site and wanted to introduce myself. I recently had the pleasure of stumbling upon Mass at St. Josephats’. It was an extrodinary experience and one that I hope to have again. Joy
 
I was born in 1956 to a Catholic family of 11. Circumstances put me at Sweetest Heart of Mary for the first 3 years of my education. I made my First Communion there and the piety of my heart was born. We lived in the suburbs at this time and I was awaiting the catholic school in our area to have an opening for my grade. I attended public school til 9th grade.( Thats how hard it was to get into a Catholic school at this time.) Many of my siblings were “in” already. I attended St. Davids’ in Detroit where we moved for my Freshman year. It promptly closed due to proposal C as I recall. I finished high school in the public school system. I fell in line with the changes in the church, taught catechism, was a girl scout leader, and even a Eucharistic Minister. My wonderful Husband of 30 years, and four children, has respectfully remained steadfast in the oldest traditions of the church. He never took communion in his hands and stuck his tongue out (at)for the priest only. NEVER a lay person or deacon. Once in awhile we would attend mass at SHofM. We enjoyed those masses immensely…several times we attended mass at Our Lady of Good Council where I was baptized and my husband went to school. Recently though we have been dissatisfied with our current church, respectfully unnamed and came upon the Tridentine Mass at St. Josephat. This was because of mistaken timing for Sweetest Heart of Marys’ morning mass. Today was our second week at the Tridentine Mass. We are expecting to continue next week as well. I am still basking in the remarkable afterglow!! I hope this wasn’t too lengthy an intro. :confused:
Joy 👍
 
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I was born in 1956 to a Catholic family of 11. Circumstances put me at Sweetest Heart of Mary for the first 3 years of my education. I made my First Communion there and the piety of my heart was born. We lived in the suburbs at this time and I was awaiting the catholic school in our area to have an opening for my grade. I attended public school til 9th grade.( Thats how hard it was to get into a Catholic school at this time.) Many of my siblings were “in” already. I attended St. Davids’ in Detroit where we moved for my Freshman year. It promptly closed due to proposal C as I recall. I finished high school in the public school system. I fell in line with the changes in the church, taught catechism, was a girl scout leader, and even a Eucharistic Minister. My wonderful Husband of 30 years, and four children, has respectfully remained steadfast in the oldest traditions of the church. He never took communion in his hands and stuck his tongue out (at)for the priest only. NEVER a lay person or deacon. Once in awhile we would attend mass at SHofM. We enjoyed those masses immensely…several times we attended mass at Our Lady of Good Council where I was baptized and my husband went to school. Recently though we have been dissatisfied with our current church, respectfully unnamed and came upon the Tridentine Mass at St. Josephat. This was because of mistaken timing for Sweetest Heart of Marys’ morning mass. Today was our second week at the Tridentine Mass. We are expecting to continue next week as well. I am still basking in the remarkable afterglow!! I hope this wasn’t too lengthy an intro. :confused:
Joy 👍
Very nice introduction. It sounds similar to me when I first attended the Tridentine Mass across the border in Windsor. I remember not actually liking it the first week, but by the Wednesday afterwards I was wishing there was a Tridentine daily Mass in the area because I couldn’t wait to attend the next one. I became a regular attendee, and was named organist a year later. I wish I could attend the Mass in Detroit more regularly, but duties at a Windsor Novus Ordo Mass do not allow me to do so.
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
I’m a Fr. Ben fan!
That being the case your attendance at the St. Josaphat TLM this Sunday is mandatory! 😃

We’ve had a great rotation of celebrants, and each week the mass is beautiful. Fr. Ben is one who seems to bring a portion of his fan club with him, in the past I think he may have even brought altar boys to serve and gain exposure to the TLM. Its always nice to have more people with us at mass, and I’m not sure when the next opportunity for you Fr. Ben fans will be. So if you are interested in the TLM, this Sunday (2/19 @ 9:30) would be a great week to plan on attending.
 
Chris in Mich:
That being the case your attendance at the St. Josaphat TLM this Sunday is mandatory! 😃
This last time, Fr. Ben celebrated the same week as the children’s choir sang at Cyril’s. We are required to be there. Both myself and the Lady who leads the choir want to see him celebrate the TLM. We need to ask for an off week!
 
I was happy to assist at the Latin Mass at St. Josophat a few weeks back. I’ve only had the pleasure of assisting there two or three times, but I’ve loved it each time. I’ve mostly assisted at All Saints Parish in Flint and St. Bonaface in Pittsburgh. I’ve also assisted at the Latin Mass in Vienna, Austria and with the SSJC at Saint John Cantius parish in Chicago. All of these have been truly blessed experiences! I’ve also learned how much diversity there is in how one offers and assists at the Mass even within the Latin Mass community. There really is a lot of beautiful freedom within the established norms! Praised be Jesus Christ!!!
 
The Archdiocese has waivered on the topic of permission for an Ash Wednesday Mass. First it was yes, then no, now maybe. Fr. Mark is petitioning through the proper channels, but does not expect a firm decision before this weekend, by which time something needs to be announced to the congregation.

Therefore, he is planning to have an Ash Wednesday evening service (7:00 PM is the tentative time), consisting of Blessing and Distribution of Ashes according to the formula from the Tridentine Missal, Stations of the Cross, and distribution of Holy Communion.

Fr. Mark believes this will serve the interests of the Tridentine Community better than an ad orientem Novus Ordo Latin Mass, which he could hold without obtaining permission.
 
Thanks Alex. That is ridiculous. What possible reason could they have for saying no?!
 
Imagine that you are an experienced Executive Chef of a hotel. Your preference and culinary training is in Asian food. You know that trendy Asian food sells. You are highly motivated to sell the hotel on letting you open up an Asian restaurant.

At first, you work through your immediate boss, the Food & Beverage Manager. Soon you find that his interest is the lucrative convention business, and that he doesn’t really care about the hotel restaurants. After all, they aren’t all that full, while conventions bring in the attendance and the bucks.

The General Manager of the hotel is a finance guy. He has never been interested in the food side of the operation. Oh yes, he will wander into the kitchen every now and then, but just to say hello. Don’t bother asking him whether you can cook up something special for dinner next Saturday; he’ll let you do what you want in that regard. The General Manager is more concerned about keeping a high profile for the hotel in the community and keeping the whole operation running smoothly and without controversy.

But back to that Asian restaurant concept. You really, really want it. So you pitch it to the Food & Beverage Manager. He forgets, so you pitch it over and over. Finally, he says OK, you can try an Asian menu. Great! You go ahead.

Later, the Food & Beverage Manager realizes that it costs money to set up this new restaurant format. And he knows the General Manager, as a finance guy, does not want to spend money, especially not to indulge some chef with eclectic tastes. As far as the General Manager is concerned, everyone should be happy to have a choice between New York Strip, Chicken, or Whitefish. Forget that sushi stuff; who even understands the names of those items anyway?

So before he even takes his case to the General Manager, the Food & Beverage Manager tells you, the Chef, no, on second thought, you can’t have your restaurant. You, in frustration, ask for the petition to be reconsidered. So the Food & Beverage Manager, wanting to have a good relationship with all of his employees, as well as not wanting to be perceived by the General Manager as advocating some guy’s bizzare agenda, recommends that a plan be submitted, and it will be run by not only the General Manager, but the Board of Directors as well. None of whom care for Asian food.

You do have an ace in the hole. The majority stockholder in the hotel has been photographed dining out at Asian restaurants on multiple occasions. He has been quoted as praising the wonders of Asian food. But he lives in another state and has no day-to-day involvement in the hotel corporation.

You are Fr. Mark.
 
**What we can do is pray for our need and intention. **
So Please pray for the Tridentine Community.

:amen:
 
Please join us for:
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Blessing and Distribution of Ashes a Lenten Sermon Stations of the Cross and Holy Communion
**Fr. Mark Borkowski will lead us in this **Ash Wednesday service

Saint Josaphat Catholic Church
7:00 PM



 
Feel free to comment on this past Sunday’s Tridentine Mass celebrated by Fr. Roman.
I very much appreciate his willingness to do this Mass for us.
So feel free to post your comments on the Mass and anything else about our Detroit Tridentine Mass. Attendance was good this past Sunday.

On a side note I would like to tell people out there to come to the Lenten Sweetest Heart of Mary (clusterd with St. Josaphat) Fish Fry on Fridays of Lent from 3:00 PM-8:00 PM.
Also Stations of the Cross are held at 6:30 PM at Sweetest Heart of Mary Church with communion afterwards AT THE COMMUNION RAIL.
40 Hours will be held at Sweetest Heart of Mary from Friday the 24th to Sunday the 26th.
Please consult the Lenten Schedule and church paper

Please support the cluster of St. Josaphat, Sweetest Heart and St. Joseph.
 
Bishop Quinn backed out during the week, no explanation given. He asked Fr. Roman to fill in. Fr. Roman hadn’t seen a TLM since his childhood, but had a great attitude, came for a rehearsal on Saturday, and did quite well for a first timer.
 
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