Deutercanonical Assistant?

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Greetings.

My “favorite” or I should say “favored” study bible is a Scofield KJV. Although I readily admit it is not a “recognized” translation I do enjoy the way it is laid out. So I am looking to an alternative to purchasing a new DR or RSV-CE translation. (I realize many different translations help with understanding, however I’m not pursuing that option at this time.) I will get a nice RSV-CE or DR in the future, but for now I need to wait.

So my question is this: Is there a nice Deutercanonical “companion” I can use with my KJV?
 
masscup said:
Greetings.

My “favorite” or I should say “favored” study bible is a Scofield KJV. Although I readily admit it is not a “recognized” translation I do enjoy the way it is laid out. So I am looking to an alternative to purchasing a new DR or RSV-CE translation. (I realize many different translations help with understanding, however I’m not pursuing that option at this time.) I will get a nice RSV-CE or DR in the future, but for now I need to wait.

So my question is this: Is there a nice Deutercanonical “companion” I can use with my KJV?
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I used to use the Scofield Study Bible when I was in the ministry as a Southern Baptist, but I have since retired it when I became Catholic. The Scofield and Catholicism mix like oil and water. If you are actually a Catholic, then the Scofield is not a sound choice. I think you know that.

I would not worry about finding a companion deuterocanonical text for a Scofield, just get you a Catholic Study Bible.
 
Thanks to all that have replied so far.
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I used to use the Scofield Study Bible when I was in the ministry as a Southern Baptist, but I have since retired it when I became Catholic. The Scofield and Catholicism mix like oil and water. If you are actually a Catholic, then the Scofield is not a sound choice. I think you know that.

I would not worry about finding a companion deuterocanonical text for a Scofield, just get you a Catholic Study Bible.
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COPLAND,

Although I do not disagree with you concerning the Scofield, I would like to hear your opinion as to why.

I’m in a rural area and I am not thrilled at the idea of ordering a bible online due to the fact that I like to examine the book first. I’m interested in a good quality bible and I’m not convinced the ones I have seen on the internet fit my needs. I know that sounds selfish or self-serving but that is not my intent.
 
masscup,

I understand completely.

My opinion of why, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean why I think it does not mix with Catholicism? If that is your question, then the reason is because of the theological position taken by C I Scofield, dispensationalism. It is at odds with Catholicism for a number of reasons, one being that they believe that God is pursueing two different works in history, one involving the Jews, and the other the Church. For dispensationalists, the Church is kind of a band-aid fix until God gets things right with His “real” plan, that would be Israel. Scofield’s beliefs resembled Marcion’s of the 3rd century heretic who made an absolute break between the OT and NT and placed Paul’s writings at the heart of Christian doctrine.
 
COPLAND 3 et al,

First, let me thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.

Second, if I ask you a question or direct a statement towards you, I am not trying to be either argumentative or confrontational. I am only searching your opinion or the facts of which you are aware and I am not. This hasn’t been an issue however I want to be proactive so there is never any confusion.

With that being said, you are correct COPLAND when I asked why the Scofield does not mix with catholicism. I wanted to make sure it was specifically a Scofield issue and not only the KJV not being recognized issue.

And what works are you basing Scofield’s dispensationalism on? Do you have any specific examples? Perhaps a website?

Again, I’m not arguing, only trying to learn.
 
You can purchase copies of the King James version of the Bible with the Deutercanonical books appended at the end of the Bible (of course out of order for Catholics), but it can be found.

I did a search on Amazon.com for “King James apocrypha” and it came up with several different titles, one of which might interest you.

ChadS
 
Well right now I’m a lapsed Catholic stuying the Bible and chruch doctrine to see if I can return to the Church. I started going to mass every now and them but I had not gone to confession, the eucharist and confirmantion.
There are son faith and sin issues y need to solve.

But I’m reading the Bible. Several of them.

Since my first language is Spanish I’m using several Study Bibles in that language.

I have a Nueva Biblia de Jerusalem (the equivalent of the New Jerusalem Bible in English with no inclusive language and notes from the Ecole Biblique D’ Jerusalem), a Biblia Latioamericana (the Spanish counterpart to NAB, reader friendly and unapologeticaly liberal).

For coparison I have a Reina Valera (the Spanish protestant counterpart to the KJV) with Scofield notes.
The Scofield Dispensationalism is a big theological difference, and changes the meaning of the whole Bible in my opinion. Catholic Bibles tend to be more into Covenat theology.
Also the reading of Genesis. The Scofield is unapologetically YEC, the Bible of Jerusalem is more Agustinian in a sense that it takes the six days of creation as symbolic and can be read as Theistic Evolutionist or Old Earth Creationist (the Bible skips the science issue) perspective and same goes for the Flood (explaing the meaning but does not try to explain the Flood as totaly, partially real or alegoricaly). The Biblia Latinoamericana is totally into Theistic Evolutionism in his notes and gives a partially historical and allegorical explanation of the Flood.
The New Testament is interpreted in the Catholic Bibles according to Early Church Fathers and CC Magisterium in Catholic Bibles. The Scofield is clearly fundamental Baptist there.
And Revelations, well the Scofield is clearly dispensationalist pretribulation rapture and the Pope is the Antichrist and the CC is the Whore of Bablylon. Catholic Bibles have a preterist, amillemial interpretation of Revelations.
I do not have the Felix Torres Amat that is the Spanish counterpart of the Douay Rheims.

But if you what the KJV Deutercanonicals you can download them here:

etext.lib.virginia.edu/kjv.browse.html

They have the entire KJV 1611 on line including the deuterocanonicals.
 
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