Deutrocanonical Books-Apologetics

[lak611]

So do you agree with Luther and his decision to remove Hebrews from the canon? Perhaps he was right since there is no definite author.

No I do not. I am merely pointing out that authorship of all the New Testament books is not known either, yet they are all accepted. Not knowing who the author of a book is does not prove if a book is canonical or not.

 

[Nancie_Lew]

Steve Ray is not perfect by any means… but show me where he states that agenda… or retract your baseless argument.

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catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0409fea4.asp

 

[MrS]

Originally Posted by MrS forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cad/viewpost.gif
Steve Ray is not perfect by any means… but show me where he states that agenda… or retract your baseless argument

catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0409fea4.asp

This is what you wrote/posted:

That is why Steve Ray whats to turn Jamnia into a myth so he can justify the inclusion of the Deutrocanonicals in the Catholic Canon. Every Jewish web-site I have looked at says there was a Council of Jamnia

Your linked article explains his position that the “council” was not a myth… simply a council without final authority, and perhaps one that did not fully explore a canon.

If I said that you were not a football player… that does not imply that you are a myth and do not exist.

but… nice try anyway…

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[Randy_Carson]

Geat now show me where any of these quotes were taken from the Old Testament. There is only one passage on your list that is in the Old Testament and it is Hebrew 1:3.

Here is a link for Old Testament quotes in the New Testament. Both Jesus and the disciples used these quotes. Note that when Jesus uses a quote from the Old Testament it is almost always an authorative quote.

kalvesmaki.com/LXX/NTChart.htm

The purpose of showing these parallels, of course, is to show you why you might want to consider putting them back into your OT. They’re certainly in mine.

It seems to me that the writers of the NT passages in question were certainly familiar enough with the concepts in the Deuteros that they were able to paraphrase them pretty well.

The parallel with the potter and clay for example, is pretty unambiguous. Additionally, the Pharisees must have been familiar with the passage in Maccabees because it seems to have influenced their words and behavior on Calvary during the crucifixion.

Oh, and if you read the passage from Maccabees about the seven sons who were killed for their faith, you’ll understand who the author of Hebrews is referring to.

It’s not just a coincidence…the authors knew these books and incorporated these ideas from what Catholics declare is the OT into the NT.

Hope this helps. :tiphat: