Devil could lead to good and evil

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Revelation from God? If people could receive revelation from God then we have already known the absolute truth and we have no conflict of ideas whatsoever.

Moreover we have plenty of examples in which a good idea is challenged with human curiosity and then older good idea is replaced with newer good idea. Curiosity in the last example plays the role evil since it is against idea of good. Without that there would be no change whatsoever in state of belief, no improvement in our social system, …
Yes! revelation from God and He gives it freely to his children.
Your ears are closed and cannot receive revelations,
Just get over your resentments and judgments of others and your ears may be opened to truth. You have only read about truth, but have not received it in your heart. only your intellect., but, not experienced it.
 
Evil is the force against what is defined as good (state absolute good is not reachable/definable).

Evil can arises from self which means it could lead to unpleasing feeling defined as good.

Evil can arises from self and break definition of what is good which might lead to a better definition of good.

If we accept that the state of absolute good is not reachable from our perspective (creature) then devil[sic…should be evil also?} is the only force that can act as usable tools breaking traditional good and provide the possibility for the growth of new concept of good.
OK i’m going to go along with you, and assume you are trying to assert the idea that God sometimes uses evil to bring about a greater good.
Evil is the force against what is defined as good (state absolute good is not reachable/definable).
No. without a concept of absolute good, evil cannot be absolutely defined either. However good, even if absolute, may not be reachable (by us).
Evil can arises from self which means it could lead to unpleasing feeling defined as good.
By unpleasant feeling you mean the effort of resisting our passions? Suffering as good?
Evil from self being our giving in to unrestrained impulses?
Evil can arises from self and break definition of what is good which might lead to a better definition of good.
You mean, if we have previously seen that the giving in to unrestrained impulses is something pleasurable, good, but now we see the ugly consequences of such lack of restraint?
Hmmm. It would still take Gods intervention to inform us of our error.
If we accept that the state of absolute good is not reachable from our perspective (creature) then devil[sic…should be evil?] is the only force that can act as usable tools breaking traditional good and provide the possibility for the growth of new concept of good.
No. Evil must be replaced with the light of God. Else we will continue to slide toward more and more evil (there is no end to evil). Gracefully, we have been granted a conscience through which to receive the light of God. God may allow evil as a way to get our attention.

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Evil indeed leads to good. Jesus being killed is an impossible sin. This impossible sin made his brothers’ sins negligible in comparison. Jesus made us white.
 
OK i’m going to go along with you, and assume you are trying to assert the idea that God sometimes uses evil to bring about a greater good.
Thank you.
No. without a concept of absolute good, evil cannot be absolutely defined either. However good, even if absolute, may not be reachable (by us).
The absolute truth/absolute good is sitting at the end of road. What we know and understand as truth/good are relative since it changes by time. The relative good/truth is subject of threat by evil constantly. Once truth/good challenged by evil we go to state of doubt which might result to a better definition of truth/good.
By unpleasant feeling you mean the effort of resisting our passions? Suffering as good?
Evil from self being our giving in to unrestrained impulses?
Lets call the unpleasant feeling, doubt toward what is good/true.
You mean, if we have previously seen that the giving in to unrestrained impulses is something pleasurable, good, but now we see the ugly consequences of such lack of restraint?
Hmmm. It would still take Gods intervention to inform us of our error.
This is state at which we passed the doubt and find a better definition of good/truth.
No. Evil must be replaced with the light of God. Else we will continue to slide toward more and more evil (there is no end to evil). Gracefully, we have been granted a conscience through which to receive the light of God. God may allow evil as a way to get our attention.
Once the new concept of good is found the evil has done its job and we achieved a better understanding of truth.

The process is simple as following,
  1. old concept truth
  2. old concept is challenged by evil
  3. state of doubt
  4. the new state of truth
 
Bahman, I believe your intuition is correct for sin is purified by sin e.g., the impossibly great sin against Adam, the slaughtering of the Son of Man, made the sins of Adam (rather those of Jesus’ brethren) impossibly small.

Falsehood of falsehood is truth.
 
From myself and please accept my apology for misplacing devil by evil

Evil is the force against what is defined as good (state absolute good is not reachable/definable).

Evil can arises from self which means it could lead to unpleasing feeling defined as good.

Evil can arises from self and break definition of what is good which might lead to a better definition of good.

If we accept that the state of absolute good is not reachable from our perspective (creature) then devil is the only force that can act as usable tools breaking traditional good and provide the possibility for the growth of new concept of good./QUOTe,

I have never heard such gibberish. You are listening to a voice in your heads that make no sense. An intellectual mind will always lead you astray.
The psalms tells us to “be still and know”
 
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