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benedictgal
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I am curious as to why you maintan your stance. Are you a deacon? Why do you think that the deacon’s role is downplayed simply because it does not fall to him to do the Mandatum?Jesus did not celebrate the first ordination to the order of the presbyterate. A bishop is not a presbyter, he is as bishop. A presbyter only shares in the fullness of the Holy Orders found in the episcopate. Again, historically speaking the presbyterate did not exist until sometime after the diaconate. Holy Orders were not given in the neat orders we have today. That was left to the Apostles to do later. Holy Orders was given as a whole package. The fact that you would separate the diaconate or the presbyterate from the episcopate demonstrates a misunderstanding of the Sacrament of Holy Orders.
Being in “persona Christi” is one of those terms that is often used without knowing what it really means. We are all in “persona Christi” whether we are ordained or not by virtue of our Baptism. That is what being a “Christian” means. So when we talk about being in person of Christ we have to be specific. When someone is ordained, they are configured to the persona Christi capitas, the person of Christ the head. When a priest celebrates the Eucharist, he is acting in the person of Christ the High Priest, and when a deacon serves at mass he is acting in the person of Christ the Servant. All of these roles are acting in persona Christi. To say that the deacon isn’t acting in persona Christi is to deny that the deacon’s Holy Orders have any real effect.
Deacons are clergy. The Chrism Mass isn’t just celebrated by the bishop and priests of a diocese. All the deacons are also there. This is because it isn’t just the priesthood (sacerdos) that was instituted at Last Supper, it was also the diaconate (diakonos).
First off all, to call a document put out my a bishops’ conference suspect seems rather brash to me, especially without good reason. I don’t see any reason to question bishops in good standing with Rome. Secondly, references to Jn 13 are found in most any magesterial document from the Holy See talking about the diaconate. I simply used the Irish Directory because it states very well the point I was trying to make.
I am not denying that the deacon is a member of the clergy. The argument that you make sounds like the statement that the deacon’s wife made when she was trying to justify something that did not pertain to the deacon.
You have not provided any authoritative proof to support your observations, except for a statement made by a bishops’ conference. I am not necessarily downplaying that, either, but, the authoritative statements and documents proceed forth from the Holy See. A national episcopal conference certainly makes statements, but, unless they carry the recognitio from the Holy See, they are simply opinions.
Furthermore, the priest and the bishop (inclusive of a cardinal and the Pope) act in persona Christi when they celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Have you not heard of the phrase Alter Christus? The priest, the bishop, the cardinal and the Holy Father act as another Christ when they celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Furthermore, there are activities that only they can do even when there is a deacon present. It does not fall to the deacon to confer a blessing during the Mass. It is a faculty reserved to the priest/bishop. This would also include the Mandatum, which the documents clearly state should be done by the celebrant. If we hold to your logic, why, then, did the Holy Father not allow the deacon to do this? The answer is simple. It is not the deacon’s duty to do this.