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Hello,

I have been given a book by a friend who is into Scientology called Dianetics. This book is by their founder/religious guru L. Ron Hubbard. I have tried to read through some parts of it since it is called a “self help book”

I am looking for y’alls opinion on Dianetics and any experience you all have had with this book or this concept. I am not really looking for arguments about how evil scientology is or about their beliefs in some alien named like Xenu. I am just trying to get a Catholic analysis of Dianetics because I know that this all is false.
 
From what I’ve seen in my (limited) exposure to Dianetics, its fundamental claim is essentially that one can overcome personal ordeal and life problems through a complicated quasi-scientific schema using less-than-validated equipment and techniques. This is peppered with a healthy dose of self-empowerment and will-to-power. In short, using their method is designed to help the person help themselves to a state in which he or she can see life clearly and have the self unencumbered by one’s problems. In short, this is against the Christian (I think the following can be safely said of most, if not all, Christian groups) idea that only Christ can ultimately accomplish this type of personal freedom/dis-attachment in/ through/ with us. Hope that helps.
 
Landon13:
Scientology is a cult.
Dianetics is a recruitment tool for the cult.
Beyond that point, I’m not clear on what you want to know.
 
L. Ron Hubbard, a pulp-fiction writer, himself said his book was merely a work of “fiction” (his term), in an interview for television in, I believe, the late '70s.

I don’t mean to throw that out without supporting references, but it was a “big 3” network television interview that was nationally syndicated. I echo the previous posts though, cult/cult entrance exam.

This was a precursor to Martin Scorsese’s urging George Lucas to turn “the force” into a religion.
 
The only good thing about Dianetics is that it can provide warmth when burned. Scientology is a dangerous cult, and I urge you to inform your friend about the jeopardy they are in - not only spiritually, but financially and physically - by educating yourself and them:
Don’t let them drag you in. Don’t accept any invitations from them. Don’t accept any literature from them. Don’t accept any counseling from them. Don’t accept any help from them. If you find yourself injured in front of a Scientology center and there’s a Church of Satan across the street, start dragging yourself over to the other side - at least they’re honest about their beliefs.

I know that this sounds exaggerated and alarmist. Trust me, it’s neither. Google Lisa McPherson.
 
The only good thing about Dianetics is that it can provide warmth when burned. Scientology is a dangerous cult, and I urge you to inform your friend about the jeopardy they are in - not only spiritually, but financially and physically - by educating yourself and them:
Don’t let them drag you in. Don’t accept any invitations from them. Don’t accept any literature from them. Don’t accept any counseling from them. Don’t accept any help from them. If you find yourself injured in front of a Scientology center and there’s a Church of Satan across the street, start dragging yourself over to the other side - at least they’re honest about their beliefs.

I know that this sounds exaggerated and alarmist. Trust me, it’s neither. Google Lisa McPherson.
WOW! too funny and true. my bf told me that it started really cuz hubbard bet his friends he could actually do it! scary how people have fallen for it. i think its more like a giant kind of pyramid scheme. i looked at a dianetics book once when i was teenager and didn’t care for it even then.
 
Thank you all for your comments. I am not getting dragged into their religion if it can even be called a religion. I am just looking at this book objectively and at this moment I find it to be pretty much rubbish.

I am a strong Catholic believer and that will never change. I study the works of other religions including the Qur’an, Book of Mormon, Bhaghavad-Gita, Vedas, Dhammapada, and now Dianetics.

@Monkey1976 I will remember that if I ever get injured outside of a Scientology Church. 😃 But seriously they can be freaky with their very cult-like mentality. Im afraid they could turn into one of those Charles Manson wannabe’s.

I didn’t accet the literature from a Scientologist just a friend who knows I study different religions and picked it up for me at a used bookstore. Its an old copy from the 80’s.
 
Whenever it comes to dealing with some of the cultish, or occult, types of religion that are rampant today, I think it is wise to keep in mind something Padre Pio said:
The Devil is like a mad dog tied by a chain. Beyond the length of the chain
he cannot catch hold of anyone. And you, therefore, keep your distance. If you get too close you will be caught.
 
This may sound weird, but I feel like I should say it.

Knowledge is indeed power. Learning about other religions can be a double edged sword. While you can use it to your advantage to help explain or defend your beliefs, it also leaves your heart open to accept those teachings.

Let God lead you, but guard your heart against things that are not from Him. God bless you!
 
Hello,

I have been given a book by a friend who is into Scientology called Dianetics. This book is by their founder/religious guru L. Ron Hubbard. I have tried to read through some parts of it since it is called a “self help book”

I am looking for y’alls opinion on Dianetics and any experience you all have had with this book or this concept. I am not really looking for arguments about how evil scientology is or about their beliefs in some alien named like Xenu. I am just trying to get a Catholic analysis of Dianetics because I know that this all is false.
As I recall, L. Ron was science fiction author who bet his buddy in a bar that he could invent a religion that people would join. He wrote Dianetics which is the base line for the Church of Scientology. There are a host of Scientologist celebrities, that should tell you something. Nicole Kidman ran, didn’t walk away from her Scientologist husband, Tom “let’s jump on Oprah’s couch” Cruise.

It’s not something to fool with, it’s a dangerous cult.
 
Put the book in the trash can and run. Better yet, burn it. There is no good that can come from it.
 
WOW! too funny and true. my bf told me that it started really cuz hubbard bet his friends he could actually do it! scary how people have fallen for it. i think its more like a giant kind of pyramid scheme. i looked at a dianetics book once when i was teenager and didn’t care for it even then.
The version I heard had L. Ron (a mediocre SciFi writer) and friends one day trash talking religion and religious people. L. Ron bet the others that he could invent a religion himself and get people to believe in it.

Sounds a little like urban legend to me, but who knows…
 
Well, I was a Scientologist for a few months. It was mostly out of curiosity, and then you get roped in, and next thing you know, you’re out a couple thousand dollars (though I was “lucky”, since those that are members for years have talked about tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars they gave to Scientology).

I read Dianetics. I did the book course at “the org” (i.e. the local Scientology center), and I also did something called “Life Repair”, which is based on similar concepts to Dianetics, involving “auditing”, and uses the E-meter. Basically, the “auditor” asks you questions, and your mind can cause the E-meter to “read”, to show that there is an area of “charge”, or something that needs to be addressed. It works similarly to a lie detector. You’ll sit there going over and over past events to deal with them. What usually happens is, when you can’t go back to a further event that caused issues in your life, you begin to relive/make up past lives. I refused to say that I had something going on in a past life, since I don’t believe in that, and certainly didn’t recall anything.

The problem with the Dianetics book is that it claims a lot of research, trials, patients, etc., yet there is no outside proof of this research done for the book. Some of it does make sense, and that’s what can hook you. Many ex-Scientologists will tell you that a lot of the intro stuff makes sense, and that’s how they get you to come for more.

For example, this was my route into Scientology: you go in, immediately the person at reception will ask what brings you in (friendly of course), then someone else will show up, and guide you to the “Public Information Center”, basically displays and videos with info on Dianetics and Scientology. You watch a brief intro to Dianetics, which leaves you feeling “wow! I’d like to get better and have those benefits!” (you can view this on their website if interested, don’t go in). They then say you HAVE to purchase the Dianetics book. Then, they say there’s a seminar on the weekend that you should come to, the Personal Efficiency Seminar, which helps you be more efficient in life, at work, etc, based on Scientology principles. Before you start that, you do a personality test, which ALWAYS will say that you have some issue, and, what do you know, Scientology can help.

There’s much more, but that’s just a taste for those curious about Scientology. I’d say to never go to the Scientology org, you’ll be the target of some very hard selling. There are plenty of documentaries on Youtube to show you what it’s like (and of course you can look at their website for their take). Dianetics is not real, is unnecessary, and is a money-making scam. The book itself is very hard to get through (I had to force myself, and I read a lot, and am in a science field). While some of it is based in actual psychology, much of it is just Hubbard’s inventions (i.e. the reactive mind. There is no proof of that).
 
The only thing I know about Scientology, is what I’ve seen from anti-scientologists. That would seem to limit what I can accurately know, because after all, would someone suggest I go to an anti-Catholic source to learn about Catholics?

However, I did notice something quite interesting.
  • In the anti-mormon videos I see, folks are trying to make Mormons look goofy, bad, evil, while the Mormons are there trying to explain and clarify (if there are actually any allowed to speak).
  • In the one or two anti-Catholic videos I’ve seen, folks are trying to make Catholics look goofy, bad, evil, while the Catholics are there trying to explain and clarify (if there are actually any allowed to speak).
  • But in the anti-Scientology videos I’ve seen, some guy with a camera shows up and gets bullied by (usually a crowd of) angry manipulative scientologists, who appear intimidating, and actually on the verge of violence.
For that reason, I’ve never sought out an actual Scientologist to talk to.
 
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