Did Allah said to Mohammad:"I am Allah Worship me" ?

[Alcrusader]

It’s a clear question, Did Allah said to Mohammad:“I am Allah Worship me” ?
or “I am your god worship me” ?

To explain more my question, did the god of Mecca told Mohammad who is he so that he could worship him?
It should not be hard question, since Mohammad “used to communicate” with Allah.

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Well…yes He did.

O mankind! worship your Lord, Who hath created you and those before you, so that ye may ward off (evil). [S. 2:21; M. Pickthal]

Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What will ye worship after me? They said: We shall worship thy god, the god of thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One Allah, and unto Him we have surrendered. [S. 2:133; M. Pickthal]

(Triumphant) are those who turn repentant (to Allah), those who serve (Him), those who praise (Him), those who fast, those who bow down, those who fall prostrate (in worship), those who enjoin the right and who forbid the wrong and those who keep the limits (ordained) of Allah - And give glad tidings to believers! [S. 9:112; M. Pickthal]

And those who answer the call of their Lord and establish worship, and whose affairs are a matter of counsel, and who spend of what We have bestowed on them, [S. 42:38; M. Pickthal]

I could go on.

 

[VetA]

It’s a clear question, Did Allah said to Mohammad:“I am Allah Worship me” ?
or “I am your god worship me” ?

To explain more my question, did the god of Mecca told Mohammad who is he so that he could worship him?
It should not be hard question, since Mohammad “used to communicate” with Allah.

my view of Islam is that some arab a couple hundred years ago got either drunk or high or both and then satan made him think that god was talking to him, so i would say no, no he did not say anything to him, if God truly did talk to him he would have sent him to the nearest Catholic Church

 

[Alcrusader]

Well…yes He did.

You missed the point!
You see

O mankind! worship your Lord, Who hath created you and those before you, so that ye may ward off (evil). [S. 2:21; M. Pickthal]

this verse were addressed to the pagan people who worshiped stones, and idols, and the moon…
Here the speaker is not addressing to Mohammad. The speaker is telling the people to worship the Lord who have created them, and those before them ( their pagan parents, and ancestors) so you better worship this lord because he could bring you harm and bring you good, this better to be worshiped than those things that brings you nothing.

islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?flag=1&bk_no=50&surano=2&ayano=21

Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What will ye worship after me? They said: We shall worship thy god, the god of thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One Allah, and unto Him we have surrendered. [S. 2:133; M. Pickthal]

Mate your here also out of subject.
let’s read verse 132 - 133

1. And this (submission to Allah, Islam) was enjoined by Ibrahim (Abraham) upon his sons and by Ya’qub (Jacob), (saying), “O my sons! Allah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the Faith of Islam (as Muslims - Islamic Monotheism).”
2. Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya’qub (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We shall worship your Ilah (God - Allah), the Ilah (God) of your fathers, Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), One Ilah (God), and to Him we submit (in Islam).”

Here too the speaker is not addressing to mohammad.
here it’s a dialog between Ibrahim and his son…

What I need is A dialog between Mohammad and His god!!!

(Triumphant) are those who turn repentant (to Allah), those who serve (Him), those who praise (Him), those who fast, those who bow down, those who fall prostrate (in worship), those who enjoin the right and who forbid the wrong and those who keep the limits (ordained) of Allah - And give glad tidings to believers! [S. 9:112; M. Pickthal]

OUT of Subject!!

And those who answer the call of their Lord and establish worship, and whose affairs are a matter of counsel, and who spend of what We have bestowed on them, [S. 42:38; M. Pickthal]

Also Out Of Subject!!

I could go on.

ok.
But I NEED A Dialog Between Allah and His Messenger Mohammad ( Don’t bring me the one of moses or Ibrahim) Where Allah Tell Him Clearly That: " I am Allah Worship me"

 

[Alcrusader]

my view of Islam is that some arab a couple hundred years ago got either drunk or high or both and then satan made him think that god was talking to him, so i would say no, no he did not say anything to him, if God truly did talk to him he would have sent him to the nearest Catholic Church

This is what we gonna find out to be true!
You see if you examine the way Allah speak to his messenger it’s never Direct!

it’s always: " Allah said that you should …"
“Allah forbidden that you …”
“Allah told me that I should do this… should do that …”

and so on…!

It’s not like in the bible where God himself Speaks!!

In the Qur’an you don’t have not even 1 verse where God Him Self Has Spoken To mohammad. It was always someone spoke about Allah, and said “allah tells you to do like this…” ," allah force you to fight…", " allah this… ", “allah that…” and Never Allah did himself spoked!

 

[elwill]

This is what we gonna find out to be true!
You see if you examine the way Allah speak to his messenger it’s never Direct!

it’s always: " Allah said that you should …"
“Allah forbidden that you …”
“Allah told me that I should do this… should do that …”

and so on…!

It’s not like in the bible where God himself Speaks!!

In the Qur’an you don’t have not even 1 verse where God Him Self Has Spoken To mohammad. It was always someone spoke about Allah, and said “allah tells you to do like this…” ," allah force you to fight…", " allah this… ", “allah that…” and Never Allah did himself spoked!

2-186 When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.

15-49 Tell My servants that I am indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;
15-50 And that My Penalty will be indeed the most grievous Penalty.

 

[MugenOne]

High on camel’s grass?

my view of Islam is that some arab a couple hundred years ago got either drunk or high or both and then satan made him think that god was talking to him, so i would say no, no he did not say anything to him, if God truly did talk to him he would have sent him to the nearest Catholic Church

 

[sharunaku]

High on camel’s grass?

ROFL.

 

[Sam_777]

Yes.

(Quran 39:11):
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only).

قل إني أمرت أن أعبد الله مخلصا له الدين
​

(Quran 39:66):
YUSUFALI: Nay, but worship Allah, and be of those who give thanks.

بل الله فاعبد وكن من الشاكرين
​

I think we should concentrate on the fundamentals and principles not the actual words, because they differ by translation and language development…

Moreover, there is no direct quote in the Bible that says “I’m Jesus your Lord worship me”, but from the fundamentals and principles we understand that Jesus is GOD’s Word.

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

ok.
But I NEED A Dialog Between Allah and His Messenger Mohammad ( Don’t bring me the one of moses or Ibrahim) Where Allah Tell Him Clearly That: " I am Allah Worship me"

According to Islam, the Quran was given to Mohammad, in other words this is Allah saying to Mohammad “Worship me,” or “I am an object of worship.”

 

[Alcrusader]

I suppose in those verses you are saying that Allah HIM self spoke to Mohammad?
Well in reality it’s not the case.

2-186 When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.

See {Surah 2: 186} what dose it says in other words

وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِي عَنِّي فَإِنِّي قَرِيبٌ ۖ أُجِيبُ دَعْوَةَ الدَّاعِ إِذَا دَعَانِ ۖ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُوا لِي وَلْيُؤْمِنُوا بِي لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْشُدُونَ​

Transliteration
Wa-itha saalaka AAibadeeAAannee fa-innee qareebun ojeebu daAAwata addaAAiitha daAAani falyastajeeboo lee walyu/minoo beelaAAallahum yarshudoon

Sahih International
And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.

Muhsin Khan
And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright.

Pickthall
And when My servants question thee concerning Me, then surely I am nigh. I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he crieth unto Me. So let them hear My call and let them trust in Me, in order that they may be led aright.

Yusuf Ali
When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.

Shakir
And when My servants ask you concerning Me, then surely I am very near; I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he calls on Me, so they should answer My call and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way.

Is this a dialog Between Allah and Mohammad?
So here is a typical example for what I’ve said in my #5 post.
Mohammad is suppose to tell people if they ask him about Allah, to tell them that Allah is near of them and he hears their prayers, so that they believe in him…

Isn’t The Angel Gabriel (Jibril) was the one who speak with mohammad about what Allah want him to do??

15-49 Tell My servants that I am indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;
15-50 And that My Penalty will be indeed the most grievous Penalty.

ok this is the verse

نبئ عبادي أني أنا الغفور الرحيم​

Transliteration
Nabbi/ AAibadee annee anaalghafooru arraheem

Sahih International
[O Muhammad], inform My servants that it is I who am the Forgiving, the Merciful.

Muhsin Khan
Declare (O Muhammad SAW) unto My slaves, that truly, I am the Oft-Forgiving, the Most-Merciful.

Pickthall
Announce, (O Muhammad) unto My slaves that verily I am the Forgiving, the Merciful,

Yusuf Ali
Tell My servants that I am indeed the Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;

Shakir
Inform My servants that I am the Forgiving, the Merciful,

Dr. Ghali
Fully inform My bondmen that I, Ever I, am The Ever-Forgiving, The Ever-Merciful,

وأن عذابي هو العذاب الأليم​

Transliteration
Waanna AAathabee huwa alAAathabual-aleem

Sahih International
And that it is My punishment which is the painful punishment.

Muhsin Khan
And that My Torment is indeed the most painful torment.

Pickthall
And that My doom is the dolorous doom.

Yusuf Ali
And that My Penalty will be indeed the most grievous Penalty.

Shakir
And that My punishment-- that is the painful punishment.

Dr. Ghali
And that My torment is the (most) painful torment.

It’s Out Of Topic!
same comment as before.

I Need a Dialog Between Allah and Mohammad Where Allah Say to Mohammad: " I’m Allah you god Worship me"

 

[VetA]

High on camel’s grass?

sometimes

 

[VetA]

Yes.

(Quran 39:11):
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only).

قل إني أمرت أن أعبد الله مخلصا له الدين
​

(Quran 39:66):
YUSUFALI: Nay, but worship Allah, and be of those who give thanks.

بل الله فاعبد وكن من الشاكرين
​

I think we should concentrate on the fundamentals and principles not the actual words, because they differ by translation and language development…

Moreover, there is no direct quote in the Bible that says “I’m Jesus your Lord worship me”, but from the fundamentals and principles we understand that Jesus is GOD’s Word.

well actually

[BIBLEDRB]Exodus 20:2-6[/BIBLEDRB]

Jesus is God so it is the same thing

 

[Alcrusader]

Yes.

(Quran 39:11):
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only).

قل إني أمرت أن أعبد الله مخلصا له الدين
​

The verse is

قل إني أمرت أن أعبد الله مخلصا له الدين​

Transliteration
Qul innee omirtu an aAAbuda Allahamukhlisan lahu addeen

Sahih International
Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to worship Allah , [being] sincere to Him in religion.

Muhsin Khan
Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Verily, I am commanded to worship Allah (Alone) by obeying Him and doing religious deeds sincerely for Allah’s sake only and not to show off, and not to set up rivals with Him in worship;

Pickthall
Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only).

Yusuf Ali
Say: "Verily, I am commanded to serve Allah with sincere devotion;

Shakir
Say: I am commanded that I should serve Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience.

Dr. Ghali
Say, "Surely I have been commanded to worship Allah, making the religion faithfully His.

Commanded by who?
So Angel Gabriel said that Allah told him to tell Mohammad so that he can tell his followers that he is commanded to Worship him (Allah) and be loyal to him…

it’s look like Mohammad is showing loyalty to his god. It has nothing to do with Allah saying :" I’m your god Worship Me"

(Quran 39:66):
YUSUFALI: Nay, but worship Allah, and be of those who give thanks.

بل الله فاعبد وكن من الشاكرين
​

ok and here’s the verse

بَلِ اللَّهَ فَاعْبُدْ وَكُنْ مِنَ الشَّاكِرِينَ
​

(أَيْ أَخْلِصْ الْعِبَادَة لِلَّهِ وَحْده لَا شَرِيك لَهُ أَنْتَ وَمَنْ اِتَّبَعَك وَصَدَّقَك.)

Yusuf Ali
Nay, but worship Allah, and be of those who give thanks.

Muhsin Khan
Nay! But worship Allah (Alone and none else), and be among the grateful.

It has also nothing to do with the topic… It’s only a command to worship Allah…

I think we should concentrate on the fundamentals and principles not the actual words, because they differ by translation and language development…

I’m 100% with you.
But I just need a verse even in Arabic, where Allah is in a dialog with Mohammad and telling him: " I am your god Worship Me"

Moreover, there is no direct quote in the Bible that says “I’m Jesus your Lord worship me”, but from the fundamentals and principles we understand that Jesus is GOD’s Word.

OK you have a point, but see Jesus did approve to be the Lord more than once when he was asked.
And for the worship thing, well he never rejected it!

Now I’m Speaking about Islam, not about Jesus, nor Christianity.
If someone asked any Muslim, Who is the god that you worship, did he tell Mohammad:" I am Allah your god worship me"?
what are you gonna answer him?

 

[Alcrusader]

well actually

[BIBLEDRB]Exodus 20:2-6[/BIBLEDRB]

Jesus is God so it is the same thing

God Bless you!!!

This is What’s I’m Talking about!!!

You See Here who is talking?
God Is Directly Talking to his people.

I’m Gonna make it easier…

[BIBLEDRB]Isaiah 45[/BIBLEDRB]

Here God Is Speaking Directly to the prophet Isaiah (إشعياء)
Please can you could read the verses below:

20 Assemble yourselves, and come, and draw near together, ye that are saved of the Gentiles: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven work, and pray to a god that cannot save.

21 Tell ye, and come, and consult together: who hath declared this from the beginning, who hath foretold this from that time? Have not I the Lord, and there is no God else besides me

? A just God and a saviour, there is none besides me.

22 Be converted to me, and you shall be saved, all ye ends of the earth: for** I am God, and there is no other**.

23 I have sworn by myself, the word of justice shall go out of my mouth, and shall not return:

24** For every knee shall be bowed to me, and every tongue shall swear.**

25 Therefore shall he say: In the Lord are my justices and empire: they shall come to him, and all that resist him shall be confounded.

26 In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified and praised.

SO, What I need is a verse in the Qu’ran Where Allah Speaks To Mohammad and Tell Him Similar words like stated before, " I am Allah Your god Worship Me"… It Should not be hard to find since Mohammad is the “Messenger of the Worlds”

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Alcrusader, with all due respect, you’re doing exactly what Muslims do when they demand Christians quote Jesus saying, “I am God worship me.” You’re inventing a scenario and demanding Muslims prove it. That’s a logical fallacy. If Allah tells Mohammad that a true believer in Him worships Him and is faithful, I think Mohammad, for all his faults, would get the clue that that means, “Oh, I’d better worship Him too.”

I don’t understand what you are trying to do in demanding this.

 

[Alcrusader]

According to Islam, the Quran was given to Mohammad, in other words this is Allah saying to Mohammad “Worship me,” or “I am an object of worship.”

OK Then It should not be hard to find a verse where Allah Tell Mohammad : " I am Allah you god Worship me"

 

[smad0142]

I think the OP is trying to proof that whatever appeared to Muhammed was not God because it never said I am God. Just my 2 cents but thats what I see going on here.

 

[Alcrusader]

I think the OP is trying to proof that whatever appeared to Muhammed was not God because it never said I am God. Just my 2 cents but thats what I see going on here.

Yeah pretty much that’s it…
In the Old Testament God Introduced him self to us by revealing him self to Abraham, Moses, Isaiah… And many more prophets, and demanded to be worshiped.
In The New Testament God revealed it self through Jesus and also demanded to be worshiped …

But until now I can’t find the verse in the Qu’ran where **Allah Himself say to his prophet Mohammad in a dialog **, this small verse: " I am Allah your god Worship me"

Knowing that Mohammad should be “the last prophet” and Islam " The Best Religion of Allah" So Allah Should Reveal it self to Mohammad.

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

Again, that’s really no different than the Muslim debate tactic of demanding for a text where Jesus says, “I am God.” It is simply illogical, and I don’t see the merit in demanding a Muslim follow up with this invented scenario.