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jakasaki
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This is what we have been asking, especially, Byzantine Wolf, all along.
Only under islam did God change his method of transmitting His word & sent an angel, whereas in the OT & NT God speaks to all of his prophets.
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Only under islam did God change his method of transmitting His word & sent an angel, whereas in the OT & NT God speaks to all of his prophets.
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Byzantine_Wolf
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Not to mention the role of the prophets is over.
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. [Hebrews 1:1-2]
But that’s getting off-topic and I don’t want to derail Alcrusader’s thread
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jakasaki
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Not to mention the role of the prophets is over.
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. [Hebrews 1:1-2]
But that’s getting off-topic and I don’t want to derail Alcrusader’s thread
Elwills answer above, answered Alcrusaders question.
Did allah say to mohamad “I am allah… worship me”…
The answer is no, because allah never spoke to mohamad.
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elwill
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i believe that God spoke directly with mosas (pbuh) alone .
i know that you can bring for me veses from the bible where God speaks directly to his prophets as a proof that God spoke directly to them
for me it is not a proof because me either can give you verses from quran where God speaks directly to mohammed (pbuh) , yet it’s still revelation from God to mohammed (pbuh) through the angel ibril (pbuh)
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Alcrusader
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Well it only make sense to you.that’s my humble view
I’m not speaking about talking.
I’m saying that prophet used to take directly revelation from God himself, whether by signs or by or inspirations and revelations .
For example, we all know the story when God spoke to Abraham and told him to sacrifice his child.
ONLY Mohammad an angel was who go and come and tell Mohammad the “revelations”.
Isn’t this weird? Doesn’t this show that Mohammad is somehow in a “Lower Rank” than all other prophets?
heheand this never PROTECTED him from Satan!!
Not only that, Mohammad was possessed by Satan (Al Shitan) and the Jinns (demons), he even was cursed by a Jewish person, and died poisoned!
Is it the problem with this phrase (" I seek refuge with God (from) satan "! ) or it is with Mohammad’s god.
lol… Com’on man!
God spoke to all prophets directly, Only 1 person an angel used to take the sayings of God. Can’t you find it weird?
The Qur’an say about Satan (Al Shitan) that he is a Cheater and a Deceiver ( Like Allah of Qur’an) so he can do anything to trick us! Even acting as an angel!
What’s make you sure that Satan wasn’t the one that used to give revelations to Mohammad since the beginning, and it was God, when this verse giving by Allah (" I seek refuge with God (from) satan "!) couldn’t help Mohammad to Protect from satan?
We also know that Mohammad used to forget the quran, and claimed that it was Satan who makes him forget it!!!
If Qur’an is really the word of Allah, how can it be forgotten by SATAN???
Well if you really do care about your eternity, and the truth you should care. A lot!
So what is your criteria of trust in Islam all about?
Why are you Muslim? What differ a Muslim from a Non-Muslim?
You Worship a god who forgot to tell you his name?
well I invite you to reread the argument, maybe this time would be better.
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> If he spoke with moses, then he could have spoked with his best Messenger!!
> Plus Moses was **ONLY sent to people of Israel, Whereas Mohammad was sent to the WHOLE
> world.**
> **If Allah spoke to a prophet sent for a people of couple thousands man, then why didn't
> he spoked to a prophet who was sent to billions of people around the world?**
> Isn't ISLAM Is the Right Religion chosen by ALLAH to Each man and woman, isn't it??hmm… triune God ?? What dose that have to do with Islam?but mosas (pbuh) never believed in triune God
did moses knew the reality of God?
buh… U just said it! Moses never SAW God! He just heard his voice!
how could he know his reality if he didn’t see him
Well I don’t wanna hurt you in my answer, but I think God never spoke to Mohammad. Very Honestly.well , what about asking you " why"
why didn’t God spoke directly with mohammed (pbuh) ?
if you wanna to answer in the tonque of God , then at least quote the scriptures
True what?
Allah in Aramaic???it wasn’t mentioned as his name in arabic quran , bu i have no problem to call him God in english or to call him Jahovah as in hebrew or to call him allah as in aramic and arabic language
ARE YOU SURE OF THAT?
Are you sure That we spell God in Aramaic " ALLAH" ???
Show me your proves.
Well Big things begin with a try
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Alcrusader
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Not at All!!Not to mention the role of the prophets is over.
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, **but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, **whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. [Hebrews 1:1-2]
But that’s getting off-topic and I don’t want to derail Alcrusader’s thread
This is what I was trying to say since the Beginning, but unfortunately I was understood in a wrong way, or maybe I couldn’t deliver the message of my post in the correct way.
But thank God you understood finally what I meant by this post
With so mush evidence how could anyone reject the truth!
Elwill I invite you to read this
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, **but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, **whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. [Hebrews 1:1-2]
Before coming of Jesus, GOD Personally used to talk with his prophets.
After Jesus came, GOD has spoken to us by HIS SON!
Case Close!
this verse was written more than thousand year before the Jesus showed up!
Their is no mention to a prophet that would come after Jesus and that God would communicate with him thru an ANGEL!!
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Alcrusader
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Correct.
So here you have it,
God Never Told Mohammad: " I Am Allah your god Worship Me".
Because he NEVER SPOKE TO HIM unlike ALL other prophets.
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Alcrusader
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Now My Second Question Is: " How Do You Worship A God That Never Asked You To Worship Him" !!!
Hope My Question is Clear to everybody.
And Since Now I’m Waiting The Answers of The Muslim Brothers…
Hope My Question is Clear to everybody.
And Since Now I’m Waiting The Answers of The Muslim Brothers…
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jakasaki
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Okkkkaaayyyy…
Please, once again, enough with the crayola colored fonts & the Mr. Magoo size…
Not necessary…!!
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Alcrusader
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I love to do that because their are many people who can’t read between the lines So I make them Bigger and more Colorful
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jakasaki
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My dear friend, I know what you are trying to do, but frankly… it’s a turn off for everyone…!
So I make them Bigger and more Colorful
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elwill
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i have no much time for now to respond to your postsAllah in Aramaic???
ARE YOU SURE OF THAT?
Are you sure That we spell God in Aramaic " ALLAH" ???
Show me your proves.
Well Big things begin with a try
i will just give you now my proofs of that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisagion
In Aramaic:
ܩܕܝܫܐ ܐܠܗܐ، ܩܕܝܫܐ ܚܝܠܬܢܐ، ܩܕܝܫܐ ܠܐ ܡܝܘܬܐ، ܐܬܪܚܡܥܠܝܢ
Qadisha Alaha, Qadisha Ħilthana, Qadisha Lamayotha, 'Ithraħim 'aleyn.
In Syriac this is: ܩܕܝܫܬ ܐܠܗܐ܆ ܩܕܝܫܬ ܚܠܛܢܐ܆ ܩܕܝܫܬ ܠܐ ܡܝܘܬܼܐ܆ ܐܬܪܚܡܥܠܝܢ܀
qadeeshat alaha, qadeeshat hayelthana, qadeeshat la moyoutha, ethraham )layn.
In Arabic this is:
قدوس **الله، **قدوس القوي، قدوس الذي لا يموت ارحمنا
Quddûsun Allâh! Quddûsun al-qawî! Quddûsun al-ladhî lâ yamût urhamnâ.
see you soon
peace
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Alcrusader
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Are you trying to teach me the language of my ancestors? The language that Jesus spoked?
Com’on dude.
Is **Alaha **to you = ALLAH ???
You know that this little example showed me that you even can’t distinguish 11.1 from 1.11
Just Because you have the similar letters never means it’s the same!
Go google my buddy about how do we spell God in Aramaic and Syriac and try to HEAR IT with your ears, and once you find it, re-read your post and tell me where is the difference between " ALLAH" & " ALAHA"
I’m not gonna focus on this subject, because it’s OFF-TOPIC.
Now let us comeback to the subject of this topic.
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Now My Second Question Is: " How Do You Worship A God That Never Asked You To Worship Him" !!!
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May God the true Lord enlighten your way…
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Byzantine_Wolf
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QFT.My dear friend, I know what you are trying to do, but frankly… it’s a turn off for everyone…!
I don’t like it when Christians do it or Muslims do it. In fact I generally block a person if they do it enough and it annoys me enough.
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Byzantine_Wolf
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Ah yes, Planten, the guy who seriously thought he could say something and then deny he had ever said it five posts later…
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Alcrusader
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LOL
So the problem is that I use colors and I write in big size front?
Or is it my way in presenting subjects>?
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Stylites
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You would have to ask Allah that, no?
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Byzantine_Wolf
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A little of column A, a little of column B. Don’t think of it as everyone ganging up on you - think of it as brotherly advice.
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Alcrusader
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Okey thanks then for the adviceA little of column A, a little of column B. Don’t think of it as everyone ganging up on you - think of it as brotherly advice.
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Alcrusader
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Well that Allah that we are talking about is Allah of Mohammad that he made it up… it’s a pagan god that can’t answer my question…
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