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A lot like a political convention, eh?Too loud.Incoherent plot. Hated it.
A lot like a political convention, eh?Too loud.Incoherent plot. Hated it.
Or maybe just stick to movies that have coherent plots.The robot was in the black hole with him.
It wasnt magic that allowed the transmission but gravity waves.
The solution to the gravitational problem was the missing data from the inside of the black hole that Murph realized they needed to finish the equations on her side.
The watch was just a mechanism to use morse code through to transmit the message with gravitational affects on the second hand.
Maybe they should have technical background ratings for movies?
I actually find it odd that you call the plot incoherent. If anything, I think the movie has the opposite problem: the plot is too coherent. Everything is exhaustively explained in the dialogue, even when it doesnât really need to be. It gets tiresome. But itâs never unclear.Too loud.Incoherent plot. Hated it.
I saw it. It was out there, it more ways than one. But I liked that it had a profoundly conservative message.What did you think of the movie?
What did you find hard to follow or implausible?
I totally enjoyed it.
The secular humanist tilt isnât as strong as you think it is. Yes, test tube babies were mentioned but then again test babies in terms of re-population when it comes to sci-fi anything is practically a staple. I didnât get the UN society thing. Dr. Mannâs instinct/genetic narrative was balanced out by what his character did â Iâm pretty confident that the audience didnât really have much sympathy to what happened to him besides seeing him as pathetic and desperate. Though he held the more âevolvedâ view point in the end he loses big time. Cooperâs âWe did everythingâ was, I take, in reference to him and his space team communicating to Murph. The Morse code, the âalienâ handshake, they âaccidentlyâ finding the NASA secret station (though I think this more of a plot hole).I saw it, and I liked it, but I must say that itâs quite secular humanist. (test tube babies, United-Nations-esque society, Dr. Mannâs discussion of instinct and genetic love for your children, Cooperâs âWE did everythingâ realization, etc.)
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS SPOILERS
The one thing I find really implausible is SPOILER ALERT⌠people evolving into five-dimensional beings, and everything associated with that. Itâs not like thereâs such things as two dimensional beings or one-dimensional beings that we three-dimensional beings can interact with and create âwormholesâ for, and with the human genome degrading as it is, we would never get there anyway.
I donât think the point was to broadcast that humans evolved into 5-dimensional beings. My understanding is that Cooper, through his love for Murph and the human race, was able to be in that dimension because of the black hole. His âghostâ was the âtheyâ that gave Brand a handshake (since that was him traveling across time through the black hole) - and what Brand said about love, that itâs the only thing that âtranscendsâ time and galaxies (which urged her to choose Edmundsâ planet over Mannâs) was able to help Cooper âtranscendâ time; it wasnât humans that created that bookcase dimension allowing Cooper to peer into Murphâs memories, but love.One thing I donât understand about the end is: How is Mr. Cooper going to fly all the way to the other Galaxy where Brad is? The whole movie assumed Relativity is true, and if thatâs the case, then nothing can go faster than the speed of light, which would probably make it impossible to travel between galaxies, especially in that tiny little ship Cooper left in. They would have to have developed their own ability to make worm-holes or something of the sort. Maybe theyâre just setting it up for a sequel, and will explain how he plans on getting there later.
There is a range of opinion, Bob to one end saying it was incoherent and you at the other saying it was overly coherent.I actually find it odd that you call the plot incoherent. If anything, I think the movie has the opposite problem: the plot is too coherent. Everything is exhaustively explained in the dialogue, even when it doesnât really need to be. It gets tiresome. But itâs never unclear.
Does the movie stray into âscience fantasyâ territory? Well yeah, of course. But so did 2001. The difference is that Interstellar overexplained itself, while 2001 explained almost nothing and just let the strange imagery speak for itself, and so it wore a little better.
Maybe its an Aspergers thing, but it wasnât the black hole that suddenly appeared but a worm hole.Remember the question that every astronaut, engineer and scientist wondered: "***Who put that black hole there in a timely manner?" I donât think Nolanâs script was referring to âweâ (humans) or âthemâ (the âthey/whoâ that put the black hole near Saturn ***that the scientists wondered about).
Thatâs what I meant. a worm hole.Maybe its an Aspergers thing, but it wasnât the black hole that suddenly appeared but a worm hole.
Did you see anything ironic about the name of Professor Mann?Thatâs what I meant. a worm hole.
Mann vs Mankind?Did you see anything ironic about the name of Professor Mann?
SPOILERMann vs Mankind?