Did Catholic saints replace Roman gods?

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I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
 
None of the saints are worshipped, and certainly not deified. This is an incorrect perception.🙂
Saints are our brothers and sisters who lived the Christian life so well in some way, that they are examples. God is God, there is no other, nor do we worship anyone but God. Just as people ask Prayer Warriors, or prayerful fellow Christians to pray for them so we also ask these to pray for us. You wouldn’t bother asking someone who is insincere or half-hearted about prayer or Christian life to pray for you. You would only ask those who were sincere. We know the saints were, so we ask them to pray for us as we know they’re close to God.

A member of my family will be canonized on October 17 this year. She’s the first canonized saint for my country. She was a good, generous, practical and prayerful woman. She did a great deal for disadvantaged families and individuals and faithfully lived the gospel and Sacramental life. She had ordinary difficulties, suffered ordinary health problems, including, later in life, strokes…and for us Australians she’s a great example because of that deep, faithful practical Catholic Christian life she lived to the benefit of people right to our times. Thee certainly won’t be any common-sense Australians deifying her, which would be both ridiculous and un-Australian! 🙂 We’ll ask her to pray for us because she has a profound understanding of ordinary human needs and difficulties, and the particular needs of marginalised people…
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
Not in the slightest. Romans believed their gods generated and used their own divine power. In other words if a certain god had influence in a particular cause it was purely referential to themselves. If Apollo wanted to heal someone he did so without having to seek the permission or the help of any other being. Moreover it wasn’t just an ‘influence’, it was complete dominion. Poseidon had utter and complete control over the seas, and didn’t borrow that power from Jupiter or any other source but simply possessed it in and of himself.

In Christian theology ALL power a saint has is referential purely to God. A saint has no power of their own, only that which God is pleased to grant to them. If a saint wants to heal someone they have to request God to do so, and if the person is healed they are fully cognisant that the miracle came FROM God, but at the request of the saint. Just like we don’t worship Mary for the miracle at Cana, even though it came at her request, we don’t worship saints for anything that their intercession achieves.

As for the fact they have feastdays - note that the day which is celebrated is usually the date of the death of the saint in question (assuming the date is known). We celebrate this date as we consider it to be the date of their ‘birth’ into eternal life in heaven.

Just as we celebrate YOUR birthday because it is the date of your birth into earthly life. You don’t object, I assume, to us celebrating your birthday? Or Lincoln’s birthday? Or to the Brits celebrating the Queen’s Birthday (which they actually do on two separate occasions during the year, once on the actual date in April and on another occasion in June)? So why not celebrate the day a soul enters into the eternal life promised to all the faithful by Christ?
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
Catholics do NOT worship saints or statues! We worship God.
Anything else would indeed be a sin against the 1st Commandment.
 
Catholics do NOT worship saints or statues! We worship God.
Anything else would indeed be a sin against the 1st Commandment.
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
You are the one that “created” the similarities.

Anyone can create similarities…Humans are created in God’s image. That is a similarity. You didn’t state that.

Anyone can pick and choose and twist like you just did. You asked a question, completely ignored the answers and typed your already predetermined response.
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
Similarities mean nothing. For example:

Ancient Israelites had priests who wore robes and made sacrifices
Ancient Pagans also had priests who wore robes and made sacrifices
Therefore, Judaism is actually pagan.

Now we both know Judaism is not pagan, but pointing out similarities in priests can begin to make it look that way. Do not atheists point out the similarities between Christ and Greek/Pagan gods in an attempt to show that Christ never existed? Yet we know that he did come into the world to teach us, to die for us, to rise from the dead for us.

The bottom line is that Catholics worship God alone. 👍
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
Good question. But let me clarify one thing: are you suggesting that:
A) Individual Saints replaced individual Roman gods - like a St. Apollo becoming patron saint of light, for example? Or
B) that the overall concept of Saints, as understood by Catholics, seems too close for you?

If it’s A, can you be more specific? Assuming it’s B, I’ll say this. The Early Christians, in the catacombs, inscribed “Peter and Paul, pray for us” into the wall. Petitioning saints in Heaven. And why were these Christians in the catacombs in the first place? Vecause they refused to worship false gods.

There are two ways of violating the prohibition against having other gods in the Bible: the first is proclaiming something besides God as god. The second is holding something ABOVE God. Protestants often imagine a third category (honoring someone more than they deserve, or honoring someone similar to how we imagine ancient pagans might have worshipped), but that third category is unbiblical. Catholics think that the Saints work only through the power of God. It’s the difference between magic and miracles. To a non-believer, it may look like Christianity, with God, the Light of the World, and abundant miracles, is just warmed-over paganism, with a sun god and a abundant magic.

In fact, athiests tend to point to ancient pagan gods, and claim Christianity is modelled off of it. But you and I both know that those similarities are only surface-deep, an that Christians can tell the difference between a god of light, and the True God. Light of the World, Jesus Christ. We can also tell the difference between Saints and gods, and between Saints and God.

One final example: the Catholic mission in Haiti hit a huge wall early on. The people wanted to continue worshipping their gods, under the guise of saints. This is what Catholics are frequently accused of doing (when in fact, they were persecuted for centuries for refusing to do just that). Anyways, the Spanish Catholics were quick to condemn this as a false religion of saint-worship, or Santeria. Today, they have their own priests and priestesses, and are a separate religion from Catholicism… All because we won’t worship Saints or false gods.

Does that help at all?
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
You are purposefully disregarding the difference between worship and honor. For the record, honor in and of itself is not worship though it can be included in worship. Also, as has been pointed out already, Catholics recognize that everything the Saint did was from, through, and for God. This means that in honoring them, we are honoring God’s creation and thus God Himself. God put the Saint on this Earth to show us in a tangible form just how powerful we can be if we follow His Son Jesus Christ.

A feast day is a way of memorializing and honoring God’s creation. This is different from worshiping gods at the surface of it. While it may be true that the gods had feasts in their honor, worship of these gods would have happened at these feasts as well. This is unlike Catholic feast days because we honor the saint and worship God in the Mass.

A decent, though not complete, analogy could be made. You celebrate and honor your child every year through a feast. A birthday is just a different name for a feast day since it is a feast held in honor and remembrance of a person or event, so are you worshiping your son to the exclusion of God? You love your son, but is it to the exclusion of God? You are drawing a conclusion that is not based on our teaching and not based on logic.

You have entered the discussion with an opinion and conclusion that quite frankly do not apply to what Catholics believe. It is your belief that you have a problem with so you will have to figure out why you can ask your neighbor to pray for you but you can’t ask those in Heaven. You will have to figure out why you can honor your children and spouse and not our brothers and sisters in Christ. When you come to understand our relationship with each other through Christ, you will not have a problem with honoring God’s creations as they are a work of God’s hands for our benefit. God works through these men and women and to ignore them is to ignore God Himself. Those who reject them, reject Him. God is God of the living, not the dead so remember that those in Heaven are more alive than we are. They deserve honor for persevering to the end and they can serve as a guide for us if we let them.

God Bless.
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
Hi.

Your logic is flawed because the saint, a creature like a duck, and the statues and paintings (representations made because cameras were not yet invented for earlier saints) differ from the Lord Himself, where all power is manifest. You can have a picture of your family on your desk. Does that mean you worship it? No. It means you have a representation of someone that you admire and love.

If I were to ask you to pray for me, am I asking you to use some divine power of your own to help me? Of course not. I’m asking you to pray to God for me–to intercede, to put in a good word through Christ for me. Veneration (the honor due to someone who led a righteous life and is certainly with the Communion of Saints) is way different than worship, to which is given only to God. Saints are human examples of piety, nothing more.

When Catholics say “pray”, we are using the word’s classical definition, “to tell,” as opposed to non-Catholic understanding of the word, “to talk in worship.”

Catholics firmly believe that death is only the beginning for good souls. These good souls, all saints because they join with Christ in heaven, combined with the souls in the worldly life of Earth, are known as the Body of Christ. All Christians are part of the Body of Christ because we all ask God to help us in His mercy. Catholics simply ask each other, living or no longer on Earth, to intercede to God for us.

These souls remain as aware and alive (in spirit, though not yet again in body). Because they are closer to God than we are yet, we ask saints to pray for us just as I would ask you to pray to God for me.
 
Re: feast days…

Actually, most Catholic saints simply have an annual “memorial” day, with annual “solemnities” and “feast” days being reserved for a select few, such as the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Joseph, and the Apostles, St. Stephen, St. Paul, St. Mark, St. Luke, and a couple others, and the archangels, St. Michael, St. Gabriel, and St. Raphael.

Be that as it may, remembering individual persons of faith with an annual “memorial” day is not without Biblical precedence; Judges 11:39b-40 indicates that Jephthah’s daughter was similarly remembered each year in Israel for four days. The Catholic practice gives a practical expression to the admonition in Hebrews 13:7, “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.”

The second-century (A.D. 155) account of the Martyrdom of Polycarp, chapter 18, indicates that early Christians routinely got together to celebrate the anniversary of a saint’s martyrdom.

Re: causes…
The Holy Spirit gives His spiritual gifts to the members of the body of Christ as He wills; a spiritual gift, such as the gift of prophecy, to one Christian, another spiritual gift, such as the gift of healing, to another Christian. If you are interested in a prophecy, you seek the Christian intercession of him who has received the gift of prophecy; if you are interested in a healing, you seek the Christian intercession of him who has received the gift of healing; if you are interested in a miracle, you seek the Christian intercession of him who has received the gift of miracles. There is nothing sinister about seeking specialized intercession from Christians on earth and the same is true with respect of seeking specialized intercession from Christians in heaven. 1 Samuel 28:19 indicates that the prophet Samuel still had the gift of prophecy after his death and 2 Kings 13:31 indicates that the prophet Elisha who worked miracles in life also worked miracles after his death.

Re: patron saints…
If you are a fisherman, St. Peter the fisherman might be an excellent Christian role model and heavenly Christian patron for you; if you are a tent-maker, St. Paul the tent maker might be an excellent Christian role model and heavenly Christian patron for you; if you are a physician, St. Luke the physician might be an excellent Christian role model and heavenly Christian patron for you.
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
**NO!

We respect & admire the Saints because they were humans like us & chose to reach for perfection.**

Worship is reserved for God alone.

Your statement “Did Catholic Saints replace Roman gods?” is baseless, childish, intellectually pitiful, dishonest & has no basis!


Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
You haven’t told us what denomination you’re in, and perhaps you should, in good conscience, do so, so we can know where you’re coming from with all this.

What is paganism? It’s a fault to which all humans are subject. Its essence is that one attempts, by whatever means, to control the power of the gods; to make the gods do one’s own will. Wiser pagans, at least among the Greeks and Romans, posited the Erinys, who might make one pay for doing that.

But regardless, I can think of some things, such as “once saved, always saved”, salvation by faith alone, personal interpretation of the bible, and so on, that are, in their very core, pagan, in that they are clearly intended to bind God. I get “saved”, and God can no longer “harm” me by sending me to hell, no matter what I do. My own personal interpretation of the bible is “right” because it’s mine, and God can’t tell me otherwise, and is therefore bound by my will.

Want to tell us what glass house you live in?
 
I think we can all acknowledge that idolatry is a human tendency that we all must guard against. One need look no further than Aaron’s golden calf to see that even those who had an immediate and dramatic experience of the One God could slide into that sin. It is not unlikely, historically and humanly speaking, that there were some in the fourth century who simply transferred their existing allegiances to pagan gods to the saints associated with similar themes. But the early Church was pretty vigilant in her efforts to root out paganism and teach the Truth. Just one example - the hanging of evergreens as a Christmas decoration was prohibitted by the early medieval church because it was too closely associated with pagan solstice observances. Centuries later, when people had forgotten the old religions, evergreens developed Christian meaning and most of us probably enjoy decking the halls today without any risk of slipping into pagan worship - although there are some who insist that by putting up a tree, we are in fact honoring those old Germanic gods. I suspect for most of us in the modern, western world, the risk is much less that we will fall into the worship of statues or saints than that we will raise money or power or some other “good” to the position that belongs only to God.

But the fact that something CAN be misused or misunderstood does not make the thing itself evil, or even dangerous. God did not take the 12 bronze oxen out of His plans for the Temple because of their resemblance to the golden calf. The offering of sacrifice in front of the gold cherubim was not worship of either the images or the angels they represented. So no, the fact that something looks like a duck does not necessarily prove it is a duck.
 
Lutherans celebrate Reformation Day on Oct. 31.

So obviously, Luther is a deified pumpkin, and the 95 Theses are a deification of trick-or-treating. 🙂

If you want a reasonable explanation of honor done to saints, you can try St. John Damascene’s On Images. He lived in an Islamic-ruled country, so one can assume that he knew what was monotheism and what wasn’t.

If you want an unreasonable explanation, St. Jerome earlier wrote a whole book about it in a single night (which he’s very definite about telling you) just because he was so torqued off at someone coming up with the previously unheard of claim that honoring the saints was pagan. (And that people’s heroically Christian grandmas were pagan for lighting lamps and praying all night in church. Boy, was he honked off by that one.) Since he lived in a majority-pagan society, one may assume that he knew what was pagan and what wasn’t.

The main reason we honor saints is that they are heroes, and that they are alive in Christ. The first Christian saints (as opposed to the Jewish patriarchs and matriarchs, who were already honored as saints by the Jews, and still are) to receive honor from the Christian community were all martyrs, like Stephen and Ignatius, and Peter and Paul. It was important for the maintenance of folks’ hope in eternal life to emphasize that the martyrs were still alive, not beaten, and still powerful in their weakness because Christ was their strength. Their bodies were precious, because their bodies had put on Christ and would become resurrection bodies someday. They were a lesson in faith, both in life and death; and they still are.

And of course, when they were written later on, the Book of Acts and the Book of Revelation were written in part to emphasize this sort of theology of the saints in Heaven.
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
Simple answer: a big NO. 😉

First of all, what is interesting is that most of the feast days of the saints were actually their death days: i.e. the days they died. The early Christians were already big on venerating their martyrs - to the point that in some areas, they would sometimes resort on bribery or stealth just to get the remains of the martyrs from their places of execution! The main reason they celebrated the days they died is because that was the day that they ‘gave witness’ to Christ through their words and their blood. It was their birthday in heaven, so to speak. As time passed, the Christian Church also put the deathdays of holy people who did not suffer martyrdom into the calendar - soon there was at least a saint or more for each day.

Let me quote from the Old Catholic Encyclopedia (from the article Patron Saints):

Origin

During the first three centuries of the Church’s history, the faithful assembled for worship in private houses, in cemeteries, or other retired places. At intervals it had been possible to erect or adapt buildings for the sacred rites of religion. Such buildings, however, were not dedicated to the saints, but were spoken of as the House of God, the House of Prayer, and sometimes as the Temple of God. They were also known as Kyriaca, Dominica, or Oratoria. Larger structures received the name of basilicas, and the term church (ecclesia) was constantly employed to designate the place where the faithful assembled to hear the word of God and partake of the sacraments. After peace had been given to the Church by Constantine, sacred edifices were freely erected, the emperor setting the example by the character and magnificence of his own foundations. The Christians had always held in deep reverence the memory of the heroes who had sealed with blood the profession of their faith. The celebration of the solemn rites had long been intimately associated with the places where the bodies of the martyrs reposed, and the choice of sites for the new edifices was naturally determined by the scene of the martyrs’ sufferings, or by the spot where their sacred remains lay enshrined. The great basilicas founded by Constantine, or during his lifetime, illustrate this tendency. The churches of St. Peter, St. Paul outside the walls, St. Lawrence in Agro Verano, St. Sebastian, St. Agnes on the Via Nomentana were all cemeterial basilicas, i.e. they were built over the spot where the bodies of each of these saints lay buried. The same practice finds illustration in the churches of SS. Domitilla and Generosa, SS. Nereus and Achilleus, St. Felix at Nola, and others. From this custom of rendering honour to the relics of the martyrs were derived the names of Memoriœ (memorial churches), Martyria, or Confessio, frequently given to churches. The name of “Title” (Titulus) has from the earliest times been employed with reference to the name of the saint by which a church is known. The practice of placing the body or some relics of a martyr under the altar of sacrifice has been perpetuated in the Church, but the dedication was early extended to confessors and holy women who were not martyrs. The underlying doctrine of patrons is that of the communion of saints, or the bond of spiritual union existing between God’s servants on earth, in heaven, or in purgatory. The saints are thereby regarded as the advocates and intercessors of those who are making their earthly pilgrimage.

Choice of patrons

Down to the seventeenth century popular devotion, under the guidance of ecclesiastical authority, chose as the titulars of churches those men or women renowned for their miracles, the saintliness of their lives, or their apostolic ministry in converting a nation to the Gospel. Urban VIII (23 March, 1638) laid down the rules that should guide the faithful in the future selection of patrons of churches, cities, and countries, without, however, interfering with the traditional patrons then venerated (Acta S. Sedis, XI, 292). As during the days of persecution the most illustrious among the Christians were those who had sacrificed their lives for the faith, it was to be expected that during the fourth century the selection of the names of martyrs as titulars would everywhere prevail. But with the progress of the Church in times of comparative peace, with the development of the religious life, and the preaching of the Gospel in the different countries of Europe and Asia, bishops, priests, hermits, and nuns displayed in their lives lofty examples of Christian holiness. Churches, therefore, began to be dedicated in their honour. The choice of a particular patron has depended upon many circumstances. These, as a rule, have been one or other of the following:
  • (1) The possession of the body or some important relic of the saint;
  • (2) his announcement of the Gospel to the nation;
  • (3) his labours or death in the locality;
  • (4) his adoption as the national patron;
  • (5) the special devotion of the founder of the church;
  • (6) the spirit of ecclesiastical devotion at a given time.
 
(continued)

Leo XIII enumerated (28 Nov., 1897) as characteristic religious movements of our time: devotion to the Sacred Heart, to Our Lady of the Rosary, to St. Joseph, and to the Blessed Sacrament. It should be clearly understood that a church is, and always has been, dedicated to God: other dedications are annexed on an entirely different plane. Thus a church is dedicated to God in honour (for example) of the Blessed Virgin and the saints. A typical form is the following: “Deo sacrum in honorem deiparæ immaculatæ et SS. Joannis Baptistæ et Evangelistæ.” In 1190 a collegiate church in Dublin was dedicated “to God, Our Blessed Lady, and St. Patrick”. Sometimes out of several who are mentioned the patron is expressly designated, as in the dedication of a chaplainry in Arngask (Scotland) in 1527, “for the praise, glory, and honour of the indivisible Trinity, the most glorious Virgin and St. Columba, abbot, our patron of the parish”. The celestial patronage here considered will be restricted in the first instance to churches and chapels. Patrons in different countries generally present a distinctly national colouring; but the principles which have governed the selection of names will be made apparent by the examination of a few instances. In comparing place with place, the rank or precedence of patrons should be kept in view. A convenient arrangement will be the following:
Dedications

  1. *]to God and the Sacred Humanity of Christ or its emblems;
    *]to the Mother of God;
    *]to the Angels;
    *]to the holy personages who introduced the New Law of Christ;
    *]to the Apostles and Evangelists;
    *]to other saints.
 
I know that catholics do not “worship” saints. But did catholic saints, many who have their own feast day and cause replace the Roman gods who also had their own feast days and causes?

For example:
“Pudicitia” was the goddess of modesty and chastity. “Auster” wad the god of the South Wind. “Porus” was the god of plenty. “Apollo” was the god of healing who taught man medicine. The god of light. The god of truth, who can not speak a lie. Although these pagan gods are obviously not a part of catholic worship, the saints are. In practice, these saints have been elevated to a similar status, sometimes almost deified.

Since these “gods” of the Roman pantheon, were worshipped with their own feast days isn’t the practice of “honoring” catholic saints dangerously close to violating the first commandment?
No. The Roman pantheon of gods were gods, and Christians were massacred for not worshipping them, or even the Roman emperor. ‘Saints’ are those who have been sanctified by Christ and who Christ has manifested in them in truly unique ways; for example, as intercessors and healers through the Holy Spirit Who works through them even after death. Honoring these holy men and women is not worshipping them. Some cultures have a special veneration for particular saints because of circumstances, either an intervention or somesort, or a special healing, or saving a particular region from a grave malady, etc. Many small towns in Italy and Greece have their own special saint that is bonded with the people there. On the feastday, a representation of the saint may be carried on a table high above the crowd on the street. It is a way of deepening the tie that exists among the people and the saint himself or herself. It is not worship; it is THANKFULNESS.
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
🤷
Okay, for the duck typing argument. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it does not necessarily follow that it IS a duck. Who knows; it could be a gorilla hiding under a duck suit and doing a duck impersonation. You may not always want to let such impersonators into a pond, even if they can imitate a duck convincingly. 😉 In order for duck typing to work, one has to limit the context, one has to limit the objects manipulated by the program, in such a way that the duck typing falls out right.

Now, one could say the same with ancient Israelite religion. In the Bible we hear of horned altars; guess what? We do find altars with horns in many places in the Holy Land which are not necessarily connected with the Israelites. Also, sacrifice of animals and incense ain’t really a unique custom to the sons of Israel. Also, we have the Ark of the Covenant, functioning both as the receptacle of the Law and God’s litter (BTW, it is thought that the ‘cherubim’ would have been thought of as being more either like the winged humans or the griffins or sphinxes of Ancient Near Eastern art at this time period instead of the Renaissance angels or pudgy babies you commmonly see in art, so that’s another one): well, we do have gods and Pharaohs in Ancient Egypt who are carried around in box-like litters or shrines too. The Temple of Solomon sports many features which are also present in other Ancient Near Eastern temples (in part due to the Tyrian craftsmen who worked on it): say, that ‘cherubim-palm tree-flower’ motif that decorated the interior walls.

So I guess the Israelites were actually a bunch of pagans, to have such similarities with other cultures? 😛
 
With all due respect…
It walks like a duck and talks like a duck… but it isn’t a duck?
Why such similarities then?
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It is a very convoluted system. It’s like they are not gods, but if you read the official biographies of most of them very few where hardly capable of doing anything wrong. They have festivals in there honor, statues, medals, prayers to them and offerings given as thanks.

Now a days the offerings are “Our Father”, “Hail Mary” and “Glory Be” along with attending Mass in the Saints honor. The prayers are asking God, to ask the Saint to Ask God for a favor.

It is like the Catholics wont to have there monotheistic cake, and eat the polytheistic one two.

In RCIA they even went as far as to admit that yes a lot of the Saints are just Pagan Gods given a Catholic paint job. St. Brigid comes to mine along with St. George (dragon slayer).
 
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