Did God actually show mercy on us by reducing our life expectancies

[peaceandmercy]

Perhaps a stupid question for some, i was just thinking in my head about the amount of sins we’d potentially accumulate over a 800-900 year period (Noah day’s life expectancy) compared to now which is around 80, surely things are easier now?

If we’re all eager to get to heaven, isn’t a shorter life something to cheer about?

Personally as a depressed person, i don’t know if the rising age expectancy is a good thing, back in the medieval times, people would live an average of 31 years, which for me sounds great provided you don’t suffer.

My mood is bitter

 

[GEddie]

Perhaps a stupid question for some, i was just thinking in my head about the amount of sins we’d potentially accumulate over a 800-900 year period (Noah day’s life expectancy) compared to now which is around 80, surely things are easier now?

If we’re all eager to get to heaven, isn’t a shorter life something to cheer about?

Personally as a depressed person, i don’t know if the rising age expectancy is a good thing, back in the medieval times, people would live an average of 31 years, which for me sounds great provided you don’t suffer.

My mood is bitter

Speak for yourself, I hate the idea of death.

 

[peaceandmercy]

Speak for yourself, I hate the idea of death.

But isn’t death potentially the transition to heaven for those who get in? why should we value life here on earth compared to the paradise of heaven?

 

[Jestersage]

I would say no, unless you are excessively saintly.

Unless you happen to be like St Dominic Savio or St Therese of Lisieux, we NEED the extra time to santify ourselves.

 

[Tim_D]

Do you honestly believe that people lived nearly 1,000 years in ancient times?

 

[GEddie]

Do you honestly believe that people lived nearly 1,000 years in ancient times?

It’s not a big issue to me.

I believe that in general Scripture means what it says and that attempts to explain this item away only make matters less clear. But if the Holy Church rejected the literal interpretation of the lifespans tomorrow, it would be for me a non-issue.

ICXC NIKA

 

[peaceandmercy]

I would say no, unless you are excessively saintly.

Unless you happen to be like St Dominic Savio or St Therese of Lisieux, we NEED the extra time to santify ourselves.

Ah good point but what about those who want to delay their transition to heaven because they simply value their life here on earth?

Should christians not look forward to dealth no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept dealth knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

 

[Jestersage]

I think the best way to think about that is: for some, all that matters is for them to live a sinless live. Then, perhaps a short life is merciful.

But for others, God would like them to spread the gospel. Yet another to be a good confessor. Yet another be a lay, yet defend him well. Yet another be given live long enough. Bt asking for a “shorter” life you are actually asking to neglect’s one’s duty.

Don’t ask for the desire to “transit to heaven”, for we all fall short. Instead ask God to use our life however he sees fit.

 

[peaceandmercy]

I think the best way to think about that is: for some, all that matters is for them to live a sinless live. Then, perhaps a short life is merciful.

But for others, God would like them to spread the gospel. Yet another to be a good confessor. Yet another be a lay, yet defend him well. Yet another be given live long enough. Bt asking for a “shorter” life you are actually asking to neglect’s one’s duty.

Don’t ask for the desire to “transit to heaven”, for we all fall short. Instead ask God to use our life however he sees fit.

I’d rather get on with whatever it is i have to do sooner rather than later, sharing a world with the devil is not something i’d want to prolong.

I would never expect to get into heaven but i rather be taken early knowing that i’ve done the best i can than share this world with the devil.

 

[Tim_D]

I believe that in general Scripture means what it says and that attempts to explain this item away only make matters less clear.

What makes matter less clear, simply taking everything at face value or delving into the topic to truly understand it?

 

[GEddie]

What makes matter less clear, simply taking everything at face value or delving into the topic to truly understand it?

Because the text has existed for millenniums and there is no new information, there is nothing to “delve into.”

Attempts to explain it away have been poor at best, like the claim that “years” were really “months.” Yeah right. Agrarian people who didn’t know a year from a month wouldn’t survive. And if you divided the ages by 12, you end up with little boys having children.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Crown_of_Stars]

Perhaps a stupid question for some, i was just thinking in my head about the amount of sins we’d potentially accumulate over a 800-900 year period (Noah day’s life expectancy) compared to now which is around 80, surely things are easier now?

If we’re all eager to get to heaven, isn’t a shorter life something to cheer about?

Personally as a depressed person, i don’t know if the rising age expectancy is a good thing, back in the medieval times, people would live an average of 31 years, which for me sounds great provided you don’t suffer.

My mood is bitter

I don’t know why there is such an obsession with living older and older. I saw a magazine cover not that long ago, one of those science ones, where they were all giddy that they’re working on a way for us to live literally forever. I know that will never be, and I wouldn’t want it to be either. I, myself, don’t want to live to be too old. I want to die before I end up in who knows what kind of condition. I’m terrified of old age, actually. I’m fortyfour, and I feel youngish still. I’d be fine if I died while I’m still in my forties. I’m ready to leave this world.

 

[minkymurph]

Perhaps a stupid question for some, i was just thinking in my head about the amount of sins we’d potentially accumulate over a 800-900 year period (Noah day’s life expectancy) compared to now which is around 80, surely things are easier now?

If we’re all eager to get to heaven, isn’t a shorter life something to cheer about?

Personally as a depressed person, i don’t know if the rising age expectancy is a good thing, back in the medieval times, people would live an average of 31 years, which for me sounds great provided you don’t suffer.

My mood is bitter

I sometimes wonder if we keep people alive today simply because we can, and subsequently increase unnecessary suffering - but I don’t think anyone would opt to die in their prime had they a choice in the matter. One reason why I would not wish to die now as it would my children are still young enough to need me. It would also cause them greater pain if I died now as opposed to later in life when they would be able to accept it more readily.

It is true we desire to be heaven and I can understand why you would say the sooner the better, but an eternal life with God is not offered us solely to reduce sin accumulation and feel better about ourselves. The life we have now is part of our journey towards heaven and has a purpose.

 

[Nap66]

I often wonder how Jesus would have felt if he lived to be 50, 60, 70. I believe he would have been very tired and depressed. What if he had to minister for 30 years instead of 3 before his death? Would he have been tired of it? The same old, same old? Would he have been more at ease going to his death, knowing that he couldn’t do much more than he did. Plus, I’m sure his body would have been much more broken down at age 70, more aches and pains.

There is a saying “the good die young.” Yes, God has mercy on the good by removing them from this vale of tears much sooner. Life is hard, it really is.

 

[GEddie]

I often wonder how Jesus would have felt if he lived to be 50, 60, 70. I believe he would have been very tired and depressed. What if he had to minister for 30 years instead of 3 before his death? Would he have been tired of it? The same old, same old? Would he have been more at ease going to his death, knowing that he couldn’t do much more than he did. Plus, I’m sure his body would have been much more broken down at age 70, more aches and pains.

There is a saying “the good die young.” Yes, God has mercy on the good by removing them from this vale of tears much sooner. Life is hard, it really is.

Remember that He had a perfect Adamic body. This enabled Him to fast for 40 days (most of us would land in the hospital or morgue if we tried it) and to maintain a bodybreaking routine of ministry. Not to mention anxiety to the point of sweating blood (the arteries in our heads would let go long before we reached that extreme).

So if He had lived to be seventy years old, I’d imagine His old body would have held up quite admirably.

ICXC NIKA.

 

[Tim_D]

Remember that He had a perfect Adamic body. This enabled Him to fast for 40 days (most of us would land in the hospital or morgue if we tried it) and to maintain a bodybreaking routine of ministry. Not to mention anxiety to the point of sweating blood (the arteries in our heads would let go long before we reached that extreme).

So if He had lived to be seventy years old, I’d imagine His old body would have held up quite admirably.

ICXC NIKA.

Jesus died much sooner on the cross than the 2 thieves. Being true man, His body was no better than anyone else’s.

 

[GEddie]

Jesus died much sooner on the cross than the 2 thieves. Being true man, His body was no better than anyone else’s.

1. He was beaten almost to death prior to the cross.
2. He willingly dismissed His human life; He did not fight to the end as almost anybody else would.

ICXC NIKA

 

[ANV]

I understand your question, I wouldn’t be happy living longer years, already lived enough.

 

[ANV]

Ah good point but what about those who want to delay their transition to heaven because they simply value their life here on earth?

Should christians not look forward to dealth no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept dealth knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

I think, a true believer would believe so. I don’t understand running from death if you were a believer, maybe our instinct for survival beats our beliefs, if a person believes he’s going to see God and live in heaven why wouldn’t he be excited for that to happen as soon as possible?

I don’t know why there is such an obsession with living older and older. I saw a magazine cover not that long ago, one of those science ones, where they were all giddy that they’re working on a way for us to live literally forever. I know that will never be, and I wouldn’t want it to be either. I, myself, don’t want to live to be too old. I want to die before I end up in who knows what kind of condition. I’m terrified of old age, actually. I’m fortyfour, and I feel youngish still. I’d be fine if I died while I’m still in my forties. I’m ready to leave this world.

I don’t get that obsession either.

 

[tonyrey]

I understand your question, I wouldn’t be happy living longer years, already lived enough.

You’ve given the impression that you’ve lived too long - in your opinion of course.

Hara kiri is the next logical step provided it is painless…