Did I commit a mortal sin?

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Please help me out here. Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was about to eat in my kitchen, and a friend of one of my housemates was visiting. I knew that if he saw me bless myself when I said grace that he would say something and probably start arguing because he is strongly against religion. I decided not to bless myself and just say grace in my head. I feel dreadful that I effectively denied God by not bearing witness to him. I understand that mortal sin requires my full consent: well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
 
SianTeresa said:
Please help me out here. Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was about to eat in my kitchen, and a friend of one of my housemates was visiting. I knew that if he saw me bless myself when I said grace that he would say something and probably start arguing because he is strongly against religion. I decided not to bless myself and just say grace in my head. I feel dreadful that I effectively denied God by not bearing witness to him. I understand that mortal sin requires my full consent: well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
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I don’t think not saying grace is a mortal sin.

You also must have full knowledge that it is a mortal sin for it to be a mortal sin. From what it sounds like, you didn’t have that knowledge and therefore it wouldn’t be a mortal sin.
 
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i regularly have the same problem because both my parents are not religious. so if i did anything Catholic in front of them, it would just lead to them commiting more blasphemy and cause them to ridicule the Church. its prudent not to do it in those situations.
 
SianTeresa said:
Please help me out here. Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was about to eat in my kitchen, and a friend of one of my housemates was visiting. I knew that if he saw me bless myself when I said grace that he would say something and probably start arguing because he is strongly against religion. I decided not to bless myself and just say grace in my head. I feel dreadful that I effectively denied God by not bearing witness to him. I understand that mortal sin requires my full consent: well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
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No, I don’t think you sinned.

But, you missed an opportunity to evangelize by your actions.

God Bless
 
SianTeresa said:
Please help me out here. Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was about to eat in my kitchen, and a friend of one of my housemates was visiting. I knew that if he saw me bless myself when I said grace that he would say something and probably start arguing because he is strongly against religion. I decided not to bless myself and just say grace in my head. I feel dreadful that I effectively denied God by not bearing witness to him. I understand that mortal sin requires my full consent: well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
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I would also agree that no sin was committed. However, what you do in your kitchen is your business and should not be a cause for concern to others unless it directly involves them. Making the Sign of the Cross and and saying a prayer can only offend someone if you were to force them to do it as well. At the first comment you would have said that you don’t care to debate personal beliefs and then go on.

Believe me, I know how uncomfortable that can be and I know what you tried to avoid. BUT their unseen threat of debate was more visible to you so you gave in.

No, it is not a sin but it is a moment for growth…God Bless…teachccd 🙂
 
SianTeresa said:
well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
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If i were a priest in the confessional (and i am sure you are glad i am not 😃 ) i may suggest that the next time you have the opportunity, do it differently… making the sign of the cross is not like… say, telling someone that if they don’t join the Church they are going to Hell… (which is true but not a good way to evangelize…)… 😃
 
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If i were a priest in the confessional (and i am sure you are glad i am not 😃 ) i may suggest that the next time you have the opportunity, do it differently… making the sign of the cross is not like… say, telling someone that if they don’t join the Church they are going to Hell… (which is true but not a good way to evangelize…)… 😃
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Join the Church or you’re going to hell?? :confused: 🤷
 
teachccd said:
Join the Church or you’re going to hell?? :confused: 🤷
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Well, that’s the “simplified version”…

You must be part of the Catholic Church to be saved… but the Church sees other truly Christian churches as belonging to the Catholic Church, albeit indirectly… and imperfectly…
 
SianTeresa said:
Please help me out here. Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was about to eat in my kitchen, and a friend of one of my housemates was visiting. I knew that if he saw me bless myself when I said grace that he would say something and probably start arguing because he is strongly against religion. I decided not to bless myself and just say grace in my head. I feel dreadful that I effectively denied God by not bearing witness to him. I understand that mortal sin requires my full consent: well, I did deliberately decide not to bear witness to God, and I knew when I made that decision that I was sinning, but I still took the coward’s route out.
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I dont think that would be a mortal sin, I do the same thing when I know there is someone around who would have a problem with me doing that. But U kno what, I have been in restaurants & have seen people bless themselves before eating & I think that is absolutely grand
 
distracted said:
Well, that’s the “simplified version”…

You must be part of the Catholic Church to be saved… but the Church sees other truly Christian churches as belonging to the Catholic Church, albeit indirectly… and imperfectly…
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While you are correct, your “simplified version” could be misunderstood by our separated brothers and sisters who do not even understand the “full version”.Sorry as I do not mean to derail the thread while making this observation. God bless everyone here…teachccd 🙂
 
Methodi said:
I dont think that would be a mortal sin, I do the same thing when I know there is someone around who would have a problem with me doing that. But U kno what, I have been in restaurants & have seen people bless themselves before eating & I think that is absolutely grand
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Can we not drive ourselves crazy with mortal sin and confessions? It never occured to me that not saying grace could be a mortal sin!
 
igator99 said:
Can we not drive ourselves crazy with mortal sin and confessions? It never occured to me that not saying grace could be a mortal sin!
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Its not, & we can drive ourselves crazy with all this. Man cannot sit around with a halo & twiddle his thumbs, he wasnt made that way, we are weak, we are going to sin as long as we are here on earth, just trust in God , realize that jesus did it all for us , he didnt only redeem catholics he redeemed all mankind
 
I had a similar question in confession one time (lunch at work) and the priest said that Scripture tells us to be wise tho’ innocent - he said that I could quietly make the sign of the cross with my thumb on my forehead, (as many missionaries need to do). From what he said, it was a venial sin then and one that could be prevented without confrontation in the future.
 
brigid12 said:
I had a similar question in confession one time (lunch at work) and the priest said that Scripture tells us to be wise tho’ innocent - he said that I could quietly make the sign of the cross with my thumb on my forehead, (as many missionaries need to do). From what he said, it was a venial sin then and one that could be prevented without confrontation in the future.
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Wait. Is not saying Grace a mortal sin? If so I’m a goner…:eek:
 
igator99 said:
Wait. Is not saying Grace a mortal sin? If so I’m a goner…:eek:
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It’s not a mortal sin, but it is a veniel sin. You chose to not say grace (unlike forgetting), but it also has to be grave matter, which it is not, as you were trying to avoid confrontation. The not saying grace part is not the sin, but conciously avoiding to because of embarrassment is. Remember the rightous man sins 7 times a day. Thankfully an act of contrition can absolve veniel sin. (or Communion…) Recommend mentioning it in confession if you remember. If it comes up again, say grace and if the person says anything to you, ask them to respect you in your own house, as you are not asking them to say grace with you…
 
bquinn said:
It’s not a mortal sin, but it is a veniel sin. You chose to not say grace (unlike forgetting), but it also has to be grave matter, which it is not, as you were trying to avoid confrontation. The not saying grace part is not the sin, but conciously avoiding to because of embarrassment is. Remember the rightous man sins 7 times a day. Thankfully an act of contrition can absolve veniel sin. (or Communion…) Recommend mentioning it in confession if you remember. If it comes up again, say grace and if the person says anything to you, ask them to respect you in your own house, as you are not asking them to say grace with you…
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Well I did not know this. It just isn’t a habit I am into. I guess I better get into it.
 
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