Did I explain this correctly about abortion?

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I was talking with my mother yesterday, about all manner of election stuff. She is a Methodist and absolutely hates Catholics and anything remotely relating to the Catholic Church.

So she said something about, “well, even Catholics believe in abortion for the life of the mother”. I looked at her and said, “NO WAY”. I told her that Catholics believe in the sanctity of life from conception to natural death, and to kill a baby in the womb to save the mother is a grave sin.

I used my own example: while pregnant with SweetGirlTwo at 24 weeks, I was rushed to the hospital with chest pains and a fever. I said that if I was having a heart attack, then yes, steps would be taken to save BOTH our lives. That is, the dr. wouldn’t decide to kill SweetGirlTwo in order that I might live. Now, if SweetGirlTwo had to be born because of life-saving measures for me, then everything conceivable would be done to ensure SweetGirlTwo’s survival.

I then wanted to go into Saint Gianna Molla, but held myself back–I figured that the mere fact that my mother even mentioned the word “Catholic” without bursting in flames was a step in the right direction. 😊

So did I explain that to her correctly?
 
Yes, pretty much. We encourage everything to be done to save both. Direct abortions can never be done. However, some medical treatments might cause the indirect death of a baby. It’s all about intent.
 
From what I read you offer a good explanation.
I then wanted to go into Saint Gianna Molla, but held myself back–I figured that the mere fact that my mother even mentioned the word “Catholic” without bursting in flames was a step in the right direction.
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I am curious as to why your mother might find Sainnt Gianna Molla to be objectionable.

God bless
 
^It’s because my mother doesn’t believe in saints. She thinks that if someone’s a “saint” it must mean they’re better than her. Seriously. That, and the fact that anything that even remotely has any iota’s worth of connection to Catholicism is automatically objectionable and wrong.

It’s sad, really.
 
So, don’t tell her that Gianna Molla is a saint, just say ‘she’s a Catholic woman - a doctor - in Italy in the 1960s - was lauded and held up as an example for all mothers by the Vatican, because she refused to have cancer treatment which might affect her pregnancy - for giving her life for that of the child.’
 
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Yes, pretty much. We encourage everything to be done to save both. Direct abortions can never be done. However, some medical treatments might cause the indirect death of a baby. It’s all about intent.
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Very well said.
 
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You can kill your unborn fetus to save your own life.
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Not true. For one thing, it could only be considered in cases where certain death would otherwise result for BOTH you AND the fetus, as in the case of an ectopic pregnancy.

In a situation such as that of St Gianna Molla, where she had cancer and was pregnant, and the choice was between aborting and treating her for the cancer or not treating it until the baby was born (effectively sacrificing her own life for the babies), the mere fact tht she’s a saint should tell you that a mother must let the baby live.

As an analogy, if a gunman pointed a gun at your baby and shot, any self-respecting mother who saw that bullet coming would throw herself in front of the child and take the bullet in the child’s place.
 
I like Lily’s idea of stating St. Gianna is a catholic woman because it is true.

Here is a quote from St. Gianna’s personal diary (written when she was 15 yrs old):

“I wish to die rather than commit mortal sin…”

The child that lived because of the saint’s courage is named Gianna Emanuela, and is herself a medical doctor.

In the daughter’s own words:

“Dear Mom, thank you for having given me life two times: when you conceived me and when you permitted me to be born… My live seeks to be the natural continuation of your life, of your joy of living, of your enthusiasm and it finds its full meaning in the engagement and dedication to whoever lives in suffering. Dear mom, intercede always for all mothers and all families who turn to you and entrust themselves to you.”

If you would like to learn more the video is titled: Love is a Choice. You can hear the words of the saint,of her husband, her siblings and children:

youtube.com/watch?v=_jGDyOkQ3yE

God bless
 
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