Did I just commit a sin?

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So, I was just sleeping(it is like 1:00 here) and for some reason this sexual thought occured during my sleep, and I ‘wet’ myself, if you know what I mean.

I hope I just didn’t commit a sin. If it is, how do I ask God forgiveness for the sin? Thank you for any replies.
 
1862 One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent.

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."131

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Full consent and deliberate intent are not present when asleep
 
1862 One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent.

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."131

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c1a8.htm

Full consent and deliberate intent are not present when asleep
So, it is a venial sin?
 
So, I was just sleeping(it is like 1:00 here) and for some reason this sexual thought occured during my sleep, and I ‘wet’ myself, if you know what I mean.

I hope I just didn’t commit a sin. If it is, how do I ask God forgiveness for the sin? Thank you for any replies.
You cannot sin while sleeping or dreaming.
 
I’m not here to determine whether you sinned or not, but rather whether you feel the need to make yourself right with God–because sin (whether venial or mortal) basically separates us from having a relationship with God. So if you feel moved to do so, I suggest you repent if that is the case. Wherever you are, let God know how sorry you are for being a sinner (all humans are prone to sin by our fallen nature) and for the sin you just committed. But don’t berate yourself over it (Catholics tend to agonize a bit much). Just know that, if in your heart, you ask for forgiveness, you will receive. And of course, as soon as possible, go to confession to confess your sins.

But the most important thing it to confess with your mouth and your heart to make yourself right with God at every occasion of sin, as soon as possible.

God Rocks
 
So, I was just sleeping(it is like 1:00 here) and for some reason this sexual thought occured during my sleep, and I ‘wet’ myself, if you know what I mean.

I hope I just didn’t commit a sin. If it is, how do I ask God forgiveness for the sin? Thank you for any replies.
Go to confession and ask a priest. In any event, you will still get absolution and peace of mind. God Bless!
 
I’d argue that if you are lucidly dreaming that you can indeed sin at least venially
I believe this is a very grey area that we need to be very careful about.

If a person is not very deeply spiritual, I would say that it is not really possible to sin in one’s dreams for the most common understanding of sin (disobedience) is severely compromised in a dream state - even lucid dreaming.

However, the root word(s) for sin in both Greek and Hebrew have wider meanings including error, on the wrong path, fault, etc.
In this broader sense then “sin” in a dream can point toward areas of concern - especially if a particular “sin” comes up often in dreaming.

These are things that are best discussed with a confessor or with with a spiritual director or other trusted person who knows you well.

Peace
James
 
I’d argue that if you are lucidly dreaming that you can indeed sin at least venially
No, Catholic moral tradition is crystal clear. If you are in fact asleep, you simply cannot sin.

Say I dream I killed a rooster. In my dream, the rooster is a symbol for my father. Have I committed murder?
 
I believe this is a very grey area that we need to be very careful about.

If a person is not very deeply spiritual, I would say that it is not really possible to sin in one’s dreams for the most common understanding of sin (disobedience) is severely compromised in a dream state - even lucid dreaming.

However, the root word(s) for sin in both Greek and Hebrew have wider meanings including error, on the wrong path, fault, etc.
In this broader sense then “sin” in a dream can point toward areas of concern - especially if a particular “sin” comes up often in dreaming.

These are things that are best discussed with a confessor or with with a spiritual director or other trusted person who knows you well.

Peace
James
No, Catholic moral tradition is crystal clear. If you are in fact asleep, you simply cannot sin.

Say I dream I killed a rooster. In my dream, the rooster is a symbol for my father. Have I committed murder?
Lucidly dreaming is not only when you know you are dreaming, but are in full control of it
 
This why I say that this is an area that needs to be trod carefully. The individual needs the advice of a good confessor.

Peace
James
 
In my opinion I think it isn’t at all because you can’t really control your dreams,but if it is a sin then , it is a venial sin because you didn’t plan for that to happen.
 
A person cannot sin while they are sleeping, period. A wet dream is something that happens to all teenage boys and young men and is not a sin.
 
Lucidly dreaming is not only when you know you are dreaming, but are in full control of it
Yeah, I used to have these dreams all the time. As soon as I realized I was in one, I realized I couldn’t sin and my actions would have no consequences so I’d always try to have sex with the women in my dream.

I would fight the action of waking up but it would always happen before I could complete the act… except for once, and then i had a wet dream.

Would you say I didn’t even commit a venial sin?
 
Yeah, I used to have these dreams all the time. As soon as I realized I was in one, I realized I couldn’t sin and my actions would have no consequences so I’d always try to have sex with the women in my dream.

I would fight the action of waking up but it would always happen before I could complete the act… except for once, and then i had a wet dream.

Would you say I didn’t even commit a venial sin?
Jimmy Akin:
If you check standard moral theologies (e.g., Henry Davis’s excellent four-volume Moral And Pastoral Theology–long out of print but available by used book services), they will point out that things that you do in dreams aren’t sinful, though it can be sinful to do things while awake in an attempt to cause dreams with sinful content.

These don’t really address the question of lucid dreaming directly, though, since they are talking about ordinary dreams.

For those not aware of the distinction, lucid dreams are those in which you are aware that you are dreaming. Sometimes people who are having a lucid dream are also able to take control of the dream and cause things to happen the way they want them to. It’s even possible to train yourself (while awake) to have lucid dreams while you sleep, though not in a reliable fashion. (I.e., it’s possible to train yourself to have lucid dreams more often, but you can’t guarantee that you’ll have one on any given night.)

Though the standard moral theologies don’t address the question of lucid dreams specifically, the basic answer holds: You are not sinning (certainly not more than venially) no matter what you do in a lucid dream.

The reason is that you still lack the use of reason and are thus incapable of committing the fully human act needed for mortal sin. You usually lack sufficient use of reason just before you fall asleep and just after you wake up–unless you are jolted back into the waking world for some reason. It normally takes your brain at least a few seconds to spool up your FTL reason drive.

The condition of a person having a lucid dream is in many respects simliar to that of a person who is drunk: Drunks thinks that they have more control than they do. That’s why they get behind the wheels of cars and go driving when in fact they are totally unsafe drivers at the moment.

They even do have a measure of control–they can drive, or try to drive, the car wherever they want. They’re just don’t have enough control to drive in a responsible manner, even though they think that they do because their reason has been impaired and it keeps them from recognizing this.

It’s the same with lucid dreamers. They feel like they are in control of their actions, and they do have a measure of control of the dream. They can drive, or try to drive, the dream wherever they want it to go. They just don’t have enough control over themselves to dream in a manner that triggers full human responsibility. They may think they do, but they don’t, because while they’re asleep their reason has been impaired, whether they recognize this or not.

Lucid dreamers, like dreamers in general, simply do not have the level of reason needed to perform fully human acts, and so they are not capable of committing mortal sin.

They may feel in control. They may even have moral-theological debates with themselves in the dream about whether it is right or wrong to undertake a particular course of action. But they lack the reason necessary for mortal sin.

Period.

So don’t worry about that.

On the other hand, don’t go training yourself to do lucid dreaming if you intend to use it as a means of engaging in sinful fantasy behavior. That would count as doing something while you’re awake to deliberately bring on sinful dream content.
jimmyakin.com/2005/09/sinful_activity.html
 
When you fought waking up, it sounds as though you may have been awake enough to exercise moral judgement. Maybe, maybe not. If you somewhere between awake and asleep, your moral judgement would be still prevent you from what’s called “full consent” and therefore could only be a venial sin at most. Of, course all sin, whether venial or mortal should be avoided. Had you ever thought about asking the Lord to remove these dreams?
 
Taken from a very reputable book from the 19th century called The Way of Interior Peace by Fr. Lehen, pg. 99:

“To a mortal sin belong three points: 1st. Weighty matter; – a jesting lie, for example or a vain, self-conceited thought, is not sufficient for a mortal sin. 2d. Full knowledge of the evil; that is, the deliberate consciousness that what one does is a mortal sin. This excludes all cases in which the sin proceeds from surprise, or in which the soul is not full master of her powers; as, for example, in half-slumber, and the like. 3d. Full consent of the will to that which the understanding knows to be mortal sin. As long as the consent remains imperfect, or we are conscious of a certain hesitancy, a deferring, or a reproach of conscience in consequence of our neglect in combating the temptation, the sin is only venial.”

I hope this helps.
 
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