Did I miss a Holy Day last week?

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Was last Thursday a Holy Day of Obligation? (5/05) It said “Ascension Day” on my calendar but I didn’t hear any mention of it at mass last Sunday. My husband thinks maybe it had nothing to do with the Catholic Church but rather was possibly some sort of Canadian holiday?
 
The Ascension of Our Lord Jesus Christ into heaven used to be a holy day of obligation in all dioceses. Now, in many dioceses it is celebrated on the Sunday after what used to be Ascension Thursday. If you didn’t hear it mentioned at Mass last Sunday then in all probability it is no longer a day of obligation in your diocese.
 
Is the Ascension of Mary into heaven a Holy Day of Obligation?
 
You mean the solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary? Yes, in the United States it’s a Holy Day. However, if it falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated.
 
Mt19:26:
You mean the solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary? Yes, in the United States it’s a Holy Day. However, if it falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated.
I don’t understand why the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary into heaven would be a Holy Day of Obligation but not the Ascension of Jesus into heaven. :confused:

If Protestants knew that they’d have a field day.
 
If you go to the Apologetics forum, there is a good explanation.

In our archdiocese (Newark, NJ), it is still a holy day of obligation.
 
carol marie:
I don’t understand why the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary into heaven would be a Holy Day of Obligation but not the Ascension of Jesus into heaven. :confused:

If Protestants knew that they’d have a field day.
The Assumption of Our Lady and the Ascension of Our Lord, if moved to and celebrated on Sunday is still a day of obligation. Every Sunday we are obligated to go to Mass.

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Mary1973:
If you go to the Apologetics forum, there is a good explanation.

In our archdiocese (Newark, NJ), it is still a holy day of obligation.
I did a quick search in the apologetics forum & nothing jumped out at me… lots of posts about Mary but nothing about why her day is celebrated and not Jesus’. I’m going to try the Ask an Apologist because I really don’t understand. Also, why would it vary from dioceses to dioceses? Like in some places it would be a mortal sin to miss that day but in others it wouldn’t? That makes no sense to me. If you don’t goto mass on that day does God pull out his map to check where you live?

I’m trying to get used to the idea that it’s ok to pray to Mary - honor Mary etc. because of course no one would say (I hope) she’s as important as Jesus - our Savior but then I hear how we celebrate her ascension but not His. What’s a former Evangelical now Catholic to think?
 
We celebrate Mary’s Assumption. She was *assumed *into heaven by God, not of her own power.

Christ *ascended *into heaven by His own will.

I would assume :rolleyes: that most bishops who move the Feast of the Ascension to Sunday will also move the Feast of the Assumption to Sunday. And, yes, we are obliged to obey our bishops. If our bishop declares that a holy day obligation to attend Mass can be fulfilled by attending the nearest Sunday, that’s the way it is. If another bishop declares that Catholics in his diocese are obliged to attend on the holy day itself, that’s the way it is.

It’s about practicing the virtue of obedience, it has nothing to do with God getting out a map. I don’t think He needs a map. 😃
 
The Solemnity of the Assumption can never be transferred to Sunday. It remains on 15 August and is a holy day of obligation in the United States, except if it falls on a Saturday or Monday. In that case, it is still a solemnity, just not one that carries an obligation to attend Mass.

Holy days have always varied from country to country and even from diocese to diocese. For example, in the United States, Epiphany and Corpus Christi are not holy days of obligation, so they are transferred to the nearest Sundays. However, in England, they are holy days of obligation, and so, remain on their actual weekdays. (Of course, Epiphany sometimes falls on a Sunday, anyway.) Similarly, the Immaculate Conception, being the patroness of the United States, is a holy day of obligation here, but not in England.

In the case of Ascension Thursday, until a decade or so ago, it was a holy day of obligation everywhere in the United States. Then permission was given by the U.S. bishops for western dioceses to transfer to feast to the following Sunday. This was followed by a proposal to do the same for all American dioceses, but was met with great opposition by some bishops, who considered this yet another rolling back of Catholic identity. (The practice of removing the obligation for some holy days when they fall on a Saturday or Monday, which had begun to be permitted a few years earlier, was cited by some bishops as an example of what they feared was becoming a trend.) The end result was a compromise, whereby bishops of each province (an archdiocese, surrounded by several dioceses) would decide whether to keep the feast as Ascension Thursday or Ascension Sunday. For example, the Province of Miami, which includes the Archdiocese of Miami and the six other dioceses in Florida, keeps Ascension Sunday. But the Province of Omaha, which includes the Archdiocese of Omaha and the Dioceses of Lincoln and Grand Island, keeps Ascension Thursday.
 
Since your profile says that you are in Illinois, then I would assume you did not miss the Solemnity of the Ascension. Traditionally, this is celebrated on the 40th day following Easter in imitation of when Jesus ascended into heaven. But recently the bishops have been given an indult which enables them to transfer the feast to the following Sunday. In some areas of the U.S. (Pennsylvania, for example) the obligation remains on Thursday. In others, it does not. In the ecclesiatical province which covers the dioceses in Wisconsin, Illinois, and Indiana the feast has been moved to Sunday.

I don’t know what would be ascending in Canada. Maybe people who travel there would be ascending to Canada, however.
 
The Ascension of or Lord, is a Holy Day of Obligation, throughout the US. If it is celebrated on a Thursday, then you are obligated to go to mass on Thursday; if it is celebreted on Sunday then you are obligated to go to mass on Sunday. Remember ALL Sundays, of the year, are Holy days of obligation.

I personaly, am for keeping the solemnity on Thursday, however since this day is so important many Bishops feel that by moving it to Sunday more will be able to attend mass. Unfortunatly there are many people who cannot attend mass during the week, due to their jobs or other valid reasons, but would like to. This does help them.

Remember also, that one may still go to mass on Thursday (if albe to) even if the day has been changed to Sunday; just remember that the readings will be different, but you can still privately celebrate the Ascension. (But you still have to go to mass on Sunday).
 
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The Solemnity of the Assumption can never be transferred to Sunday. It remains on 15 August and is a holy day of obligation in the United States, except if it falls on a Saturday or Monday. In that case, it is still a solemnity, just not one that carries an obligation to attend Mass.

Holy days have always varied from country to country and even from diocese to diocese. For example, in the United States, Epiphany and Corpus Christi are not holy days of obligation, so they are transferred to the nearest Sundays. However, in England, they are holy days of obligation, and so, remain on their actual weekdays.
Why couldn’t the Solemnity of the Assumption be transferred to the Sunday in August closest the the 15th? Is there an official statement of the Church that prohibits the USCCB from doing to the Assumption what was done to the Ascension? The statement made about Epiphany and Corpus Christi seems to undercut the statement made in the first sentence of the paragraph that preceeds it.
 
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Ben_G:
Why couldn’t the Solemnity of the Assumption be transferred to the Sunday in August closest the the 15th? Is there an official statement of the Church that prohibits the USCCB from doing to the Assumption what was done to the Ascension? The statement made about Epiphany and Corpus Christi seems to undercut the statement made in the first sentence of the paragraph that preceeds it.
It could be. But in the USA it is not.

It appears to be within the competence of the conference of Bishops of England and Wales, however, if you read this page:

catholic-ew.org.uk/liturgy/Calendar/index.html

Note that some Holy Days of Obligation in those countries, when they fall on Saturday or Monday, are translated to the adjacent Sunday. The obligation is not lifted – The celebration is translated.

(I’m pretty sure this cannot be done wrt the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, however, which if it falls next to a Sunday must necessarily be a Sunday of Advent, which has liturgical precedence)

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carol marie:
I did a quick search in the apologetics forum & nothing jumped out at me… lots of posts about Mary but nothing about why her day is celebrated and not Jesus’. I’m going to try the Ask an Apologist because I really don’t understand.
I apologize. It was in the Ask an Apologist forum. I hope you found it.
 
From a footnote on my Parish calendar:

All U.S. ecclesiastical provinces, with the exception of Boston, Hartford, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, and the State of Nebraska, have transferred the celebration of the Solemnity of the Ascension to the 7th Sunday of Easter, May 8th. If transferred, Thursday, May 5th, is observed as an Easter weekday.
 
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