Did I sin?

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I was with a couple of acquaintances, co-workers who I am not very fond of and they asked me about something where I live, but since I am still not comfortable with them yet I decided to tell them that I live at some place which is not true, but my intention was just to not let them know my stuff very quickly. So was it a sin? and if yes , is it a mortal sin?
 
I would say no. Not a sin. You were just protecting your privacy.
 
Next time just ask them “Why do you want to know?” and don’t answer the question.
If they keep on pushing, you can either not answer, or tell them the general area, such as
“east side of the city” or “west side of the city”, etc…😃
 
Next time just ask them “Why do you want to know?” and don’t answer the question.
If they keep on pushing, you can either not answer, or tell them the general area, such as
“east side of the city” or “west side of the city”, etc…😃
So did I sin?
 
Yes, it was a sin. I would judge it to be a venial sin, but it is certainly a sin.

Lying is intrinsically evil.
 
Yes, it was a sin. I would judge it to be a venial sin, but it is certainly a sin.

Lying is intrinsically evil.
The Catechism says lying is always a grave offence.
Because Jesus is Truth.

Rather instead, do not answer,
Say in a laughing manner, “If I told you that I’d never get rid of you!”
Be funny, be evasive, answer speaking truths but not lying, eg in the countryside, in a city, etc…

Or just say truthfully, “I don’t want to mention that yet”
 
I would say no. Not a sin. You were just protecting your privacy.
No, it is not a sin.

No one has a right to know your personal information without your approval.
Respectfully, these posts are incorrect. Lying is intrinsically evil.

If the person was asking for information you were unwilling to give, you certainly have the right to deny them that information in whatever way you wish, so long as you do not do so by lying.
 
Respectfully, these posts are incorrect. Lying is intrinsically evil.

If the person was asking for information you were unwilling to give, you certainly have the right to deny them that information in whatever way you wish, so long as you do not do so by lying.
Respectfully, I think that your post is incorrect.

Lying is intrinsically evil but not telling someone that you don’t know where you live is prudential.

I have a feeling that you are one of those who think that telling children about Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is wrong.
 
It would be such a trivial sin, it wouldn’t matter much.

If you don’t want to tell people where you live, I don’t either, then just say, “I prefer to keep my private life private.” Or something like that.

I live in such a small town that almost all my students know where I live. LOL
 
Respectfully, I think that your post is incorrect.

Lying is intrinsically evil but not telling someone that you don’t know where you live is prudential.

I have a feeling that you are one of those who think that telling children about Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is wrong.
Perhaps you didn’t read the part of the OP’s post which is relevant here. I will quote it below:
… but since I am still not comfortable with them yet I decided to tell them that I live at some place which is not true, but my intention was just to not let them know my stuff very quickly…
So the intention is fine; no sin there. But the OP admits that he spoke an untruth (read: “lie”) in order to bring about the desired effect (that is, not telling these new acquaintances where he lives yet).

That’s a lie. The Doctrine of the Catholic Church teaches that lies are intrinsically evil. Therefore he sinned, though I don’t think it was a serious sin at all.
 
Perhaps you didn’t read the part of the OP’s post which is relevant here. I will quote it below:

So the intention is fine; no sin there. But the OP admits that he spoke an untruth (read: “lie”) in order to bring about the desired effect (that is, not telling these new acquaintances where he lives yet).

That’s a lie. The Doctrine of the Catholic Church teaches that lies are intrinsically evil. Therefore he sinned, though I don’t think it was a serious sin at all.
I doubt that you really want to open that can of worms about what constitutes a “lie.”

To carry your position to its logical conclusion we would have to declare it a sin to lie to a group of murderers who seek the life of an innocent person.

There are differing schools of thought in the Church as to what constitutes a lie and when something that isn’t factually accurate is permitted.
 
I doubt that you really want to open that can of worms about what constitutes a “lie.”

To carry your position to its logical conclusion we would have to declare it a sin to lie to a group of murderers who seek the life of an innocent person.

There are differing schools of thought in the Church as to what constitutes a lie and when something that isn’t factually accurate is permitted.
A few years ago, I used to hold your position. There are many scholars who write about mental reservations or about lying to those who “don’t deserve” to know the information after which they inquire.

However, upon further inquiry, I learned that the Church’s teaching about lying is actually quite straightforward: Lying is, itself, a violation of God’s will, whatever the circumstances.

The following passages from the CCC define lying: (emphasis mine)
2482 "A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving."280 The Lord denounces lying as the work of the devil: "You are of your father the devil, . . . there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."281
2485 By its very nature, lying is to be condemned. It is a profanation of speech, whereas the purpose of speech is to communicate known truth to others. the deliberate intention of leading a neighbor into error by saying things contrary to the truth constitutes a failure in justice and charity. the culpability is greater when the intention of deceiving entails the risk of deadly consequences for those who are led astray.
2486 Since it violates the virtue of truthfulness, a lie does real violence to another. It affects his ability to know, which is a condition of every judgment and decision. It contains the seed of discord and all consequent evils. Lying is destructive of society; it undermines trust among men and tears apart the fabric of social relationships.
So, no, I don’t have to open the “can of worms” about the definition of a lie; the Church already did. 😃 And if we look at the example given by the OP in this thread, it certainly applies.
 
A few years ago, I used to hold your position. There are many scholars who write about mental reservations or about lying to those who “don’t deserve” to know the information after which they inquire.

However, upon further inquiry, I learned that the Church’s teaching about lying is actually quite straightforward: Lying is, itself, a violation of God’s will, whatever the circumstances.

The following passages from the CCC define lying: (emphasis mine)

So, no, I don’t have to open the “can of worms” about the definition of a lie; the Church already did. 😃 And if we look at the example given by the OP in this thread, it certainly applies.
Unfortunately, the catechism falls short on several subjects with the section on “lying” being one of them. The Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on a “lie” is a much more thorough treatment of the Church’s position than what is presented in the catechism. In fact, the original version of the catechism stated that one could withhold information from “those who have no right to know,” but this particular statement was omitted in the 2nd edition. Does that mean the Church changed her mind? Hopefully not, because that was always the teaching of the Church, much like how the Church has always taught that the death penalty was a legitimate form of punishment by legitimate authority which has now been revamped by the catechism. The catechism is a summation of the position of the Church in regard to faith and morals but it is not, in itself, the ultimate authority.
 
Unfortunately, the catechism falls short on several subjects with the section on “lying” being one of them. The Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on a “lie” is a much more thorough treatment of the Church’s position than what is presented in the catechism. In fact, the original version of the catechism stated that one could withhold information from “those who have no right to know,” but this particular statement was omitted in the 2nd edition. Does that mean the Church changed her mind? Hopefully not, because that was always the teaching of the Church, much like how the Church has always taught that the death penalty was a legitimate form of punishment by legitimate authority which has now been revamped by the catechism. The catechism is a summation of the position of the Church in regard to faith and morals but it is not, in itself, the ultimate authority.
It is true that the topic is complex, but the fact that lying is intrinsically evil is still true, and as I can see, nothing you have said in this post denies that (therefore I assume you do not refute that fact).

I believe I have answered the OP’s question sufficiently, and since the realm into which you are reaching is outside the scope of this thread, it should not be discussed here. I will respond to further posts made by the OP if further clarification is necessary.
 
Lying is, itself, a violation of God’s will, whatever the circumstances.
Then what do we make of the future Pope John XXIII who was in a basement in Istanbul during WWII forging baptismal certificates to prevent Jews from being arrested and shipped off to a concentration camp? Is it really a sin against Justice to prevent the willful and determined destruction of innocent life by misleading those who are operating outside of the natural law?

Brother JR once said that there comes a time when we must let the greater good prevail. Seeing that we live in an imperfect world I can find no logical or moral argument against that position.
 
I was with a couple of acquaintances, co-workers who I am not very fond of and they asked me about something where I live, but since I am still not comfortable with them yet I decided to tell them that I live at some place which is not true, but my intention was just to not let them know my stuff very quickly. So was it a sin? and if yes , is it a mortal sin?
The Baltimore Catechism
Q. 1310. What is forbidden by the eighth Commandment?
A. The eighth Commandment forbids all rash judgments, backbiting, slanders, and lies.

Q. 280. What is mortal sin?
A. Mortal sin is a grievous offense against the law of God.
 
The Baltimore Catechism
Q. 1310. What is forbidden by the eighth Commandment?
A. The eighth Commandment forbids all rash judgments, backbiting, slanders, and lies.

Q. 280. What is mortal sin?
A. Mortal sin is a grievous offense against the law of God.
That doesn’t really answer anything, does it?
 
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