Did Jesus and John the Baptist know each other?

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I believe that John was Elizabeth’s son. This is the same Elizabeth that Mary visited. This would imply that these families knew each other, and that Jesus and John perhaps grew up together.

Why then, does it seem to indicate that John did not personally know Jesus when He came to be baptized?

Or if he did know Jesus, he didn’t seem to know about Jesus’ identity as Messiah.
 
I don’t think he did know Him. I think cousin Elizabeth lived real far away, and
that Mary probably wouldn’t have gone but for the angel telling her about Elizabeth’s
pregnancy. Mary didn’t keep going back every day, but instead stayed for a long time, and I think that was because she lived far away. I do not believe they grew up together at all… they might have never seen each other, they didn’t have cars.
just my :twocents:
 
There is no evidence in scripture to indicate that John and Jesus knew each other prior to His baptism. However, it is obvious that Mary and Elizabeth knew each other. I do not believe it is unreasonable to believe they knew each other as they grew up (remember, the Holy Family went to Jerusalem every year for the passover, and Elizabeth’s husband was a priest). As for why John didn’t know Jesus was the messiah, perhaps it wasn’t revealed to John until He came to be baptized.
 
I disagree with the premise that John the Baptist did not know that Jesus was (is) the Messiah. When Mary visited Elizabeth, after the Annunciation, John, then a baby in Elizabeth’s womb lept when Elizabeth heard Mary’s voice (Luke 1, 41-44). When John the Baptist first sees Christ in John’s gospel, he says “Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! This is he of whom I said ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, for he was before me.’” (John 1, 29-30). In Matthew when Jesus goes to John to be baptized, John says to him “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” (Matthew 3, 13-14). I realize that when John was in prison he sent his disciples to Jesus to ask if He was the Messiah, or should they look for another. Perhaps in prison John needed reassurance and affirmation (wouldn’t most of us? If my cousin is the Messiah and I’m wrongly imprisoned, I might expect Him to get me out), but the strong evidence is that he knew from before he was born that Jesus is the Messiah. I tend to believe that Jesus and John the Baptist would likely have known each other growing up as well. It is not mentioned, but the gospels don’t purport to be all inclusive of every detail of Jesus’ early life. Of course, I could be wrong.
 
I think the main thing to consider is this - does it really matter if John and Jesus knew each other? We certainly have the important details recorded in scripture, and that’s good enough for me! As for John sending his disciples to Jesus when he was in prison, I don’t think John had a doubt that Jesus was “the Lamb of God”. Remember, there were two images of Messiah - the suffering servant (whom John knew to be Jesus), and the Conquering King (whom the Jews wanted). The Jews were uncertain if there was one Messiah that would be both, or if there were two separate Messiahs. The answer Jesus gave identified Him as also being the Conquering King.
 
This is a really interesting question. I feel that John knew Jesus, and Elizabeth was 6 months pregant with John when Mary came to visit her, So I feel John the Baptize was born 6 months before Jesus which is about november. But as your question is standing ., I feel Jesus knew of him, and heard alot about John the baptize. but never
really had the time with all his minstery work he was assigned to do coming from his Father in heaven to really get to know John the baptize. John on the other hand was doing what God had told him to do repenting and preaching to the people to be baptized into the kingdom of God, to follow there one true God. So to me I don’t really think they even knew what each other looked like, Until Jesus showed up at the river ( jordan) to be baptized by his cousin.

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This is a really interesting question. I feel that John knew Jesus, and Elizabeth was 6 months pregant with John when Mary came to visit her, So I feel John the Baptize was born 6 months before Jesus which is about november. .
Actually we don’t have a clue about months of the year here - the Annunciation is celebrated in March because it’s 9 months before Christmas, but the date of Christmas was set by the Church centuries after the fact and almost certainly to “baptise” the existing festivals of light around the solstice. The only thing we have from Scripture is a reference to a Roman census, which would certainly have been timed to tax the previous harvest and not screw up the next one - sometime between September and December, probably . . . (this is entirely unlike Easter, which is tied to the Passover which is tied to the phases of the moon).
But as your question is standing ., I feel Jesus knew of him, and heard alot about John the baptize. but never really had the time with all his minstery work he was assigned to do coming from his Father in heaven to really get to know John the baptize. John on the other hand was doing what God had told him to do repenting and preaching to the people to be baptized into the kingdom of God, to follow there one true God. So to me I don’t really think they even knew what each other looked like, Until Jesus showed up at the river ( jordan) to be baptized by his cousin.
Chances are the two did not know each other as boys, if that is the question from the OP. Remember that Elizabeth and Zechariah were way past childbearing age when John was born – he was probably an orphan at a young age. And the Holy Family spent at least some of Jesus’ early childhood in Egypt. But certainly as young adults, Jesus would have known of John, who had crazy rock star celebrity status for a while, and would have known of the story of his birth from Mary. Meanwhile John the Prophet would have recognized Jesus under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. And though he may or may not have been old enough at his parent’s death to have heard from them about the events around his birth, whoever raised him would perhaps have told him, at least of Zechariah’s being mute until he was named. The more sacred details possibly Zechariah and Elizabeth would have kept to themselves. Anyway, what little we know comes from what they told Mary and she told Luke.
 
From Fr. Ryan, The New Theological Movement

John the Baptist testifies that he did not know Jesus until after the baptism, when he saw the Holy Spirit come down and remain upon the Lord. But what can the Baptist possibly mean? John was the second cousin of the Lord – his mother Elizabeth was the cousin of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Could it be that the child who leapt in the womb in the presence of the unborn Lord, did not recognize the Messiah when he came to him as a man?
In the Tractates on John, St. Augustine discusses this very point.

John knew Jesus’ identity
Most certainly John the Baptist recognized Jesus when he saw him – Jesus was his second cousin, after all! John would most certainly have known his own relative.
From the Scriptures themselves it is clear that John recognized who Jesus was. Even before the Baptism of our Lord, John recognized Jesus and said, “Behold the Lamb of God.” (John 1:29) Moreover, when Jesus comes to John to be baptized by him, John objects saying that he himself needs to be baptized by the Lord – certainly John was able to recognize Jesus.
John knew Jesus to be the Christ
Moreover, it is clear that John not only recognized Jesus – so that he could point Jesus out of a crowd of men – but he also was moved by the Holy Spirit to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah. If John leapt in the womb when in the presence of the nascent Christ, most certainly he would be moved, by that same Spirit, to recognize Jesus as the Christ when he saw him as a full grown man.
Again, John said, “Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world.” And again, “I ought to be baptized by thee.” (Matthew 3:14) Indeed, it is quite clear that John already knew Jesus to be the Christ, even before the Lord’s Baptism.
John had some understanding of Christ’s Divinity
When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting she exclaimed, “And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Luke 1:43) If Elizabeth knew Mary to be the “mother of the Lord,” then she recognized Jesus to be “the Lord.” Most certainly, Elizabeth would have told her son John, that his second cousin was the Lord – and that he was to be the forerunner of the Lord Jesus.
Again, after John’s birth, Zachariah exclaimed, “And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways.” (Luke 1:76) John most certainly knew that he was the forerunner of the Lord. He also knew that this Lord, this most High, was his own second cousin, Jesus of Nazareth.
Finally, from John’s own words we can see that he knew Jesus to be Divine – John said, “He that shall come after me, is preferred before me: because he was before me.” (John 1:15) Now John knew that he had been conceived before Jesus and that he had therefore been born before Jesus. If, then, John was conceived and born before Jesus (and, if he had begun his public ministry before Jesus), how can John say that Jesus was before? Here, John hints at Jesus’ divinity – for Jesus was before John not as man, but as God. Jesus was before John by virtue of his eternal generation from the Father. Here, John is testifying to the fact that Jesus is God – and all this comes before the Baptism of the Lord.
John knew that Jesus would baptize and institute a new baptism
Finally, we add that John already knew that Jesus would baptize – hence, he said, “I ought to be baptized by thee.” John had foretold, “He that shall come after me, is mightier than I, …] he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire.” (Matthew 1:11) John knew that Jesus would institute a new baptism, a baptism not of water only, but of the Holy Spirit. John had some sense of the first sacrament of the New Law.
What John did not know about Christ Jesus
What then does John mean when he says, “I did not know him”? For he knew who Jesus was, he knew him to be Christ and even God, and he knew that the Lord would baptize in the Holy Spirit.
St. Augustine tells us, “But what did he not know? That this great authority of baptism the Lord himself was to have, and to retain to himself, whether present in the earth or absent in body in the heaven, and present in majesty; lest Paul should say, my baptism; lest Peter should say, my baptism. Therefore see, give heed to the words of the apostles. None of the apostles said, my baptism. …] This, then, my brethren, John learned.”
“John learns to know him whom he knew; but he learns in him with regard to what he did not know; with regard to what he did know, he does not learn. And what did he know? The Lord. What did he not know? That the power of the Lord’s baptism was not to pass from the Lord to any man, but that the ministration of it plainly would do so; the power from the Lord to no one, the ministration both to good and to bad.”
“And that which was given by Paul, and that which was given by Peter, is Christ’s; and if baptism was given by Judas it was Christ’s. …] Those whom Judas baptized, Christ baptized. In like manner, then, they whom a drunkard baptized, those whom a murderer baptized, those whom an adulterer baptized, if it was the baptism of Christ, were baptized by Christ. I do not fear the adulterer, the drunkard, or the murderer, because I give heed unto the dove, through whom it is said to me, This is he which baptizes.”
Christ Jesus is the foundation of the Church
Hence, because the value of the sacrament of baptism does not depend upon the minister of the sacrament but upon Christ by whose power the sacrament is administered, neither then does the Church depend upon the ministers of the Church but upon Christ. Most certainly, we desire and need holy priests and holy religious and holy lay persons. However, it is good to recall that the holiness of the Church does not come from the holiness of her members – the Church is holy because Christ is holy, the members of the Church become holy because they participate in Christ through his Church.
 
Hi,
In response to whether John the Baptist knew Jesus Christ, i can say yes because of all the evidence that was made available and other fact which was provided by Fr. Ryan. However, i wish to say that based on what the Bible says in vs 31 and 33 we do find out that there is something that John do not know about Jesus and that is , that He is the one who baptizes with Holy Spirit. This was only revealed to Him on that day when the dove descended and he then remembered that it was told him that "he on whom you see the spirit descend and remain.The word remain confirms the authority and eternal possession of sacrament of baptism which shall be fulfilled in the new.

Thanks you
 
I believe that John was Elizabeth’s son. This is the same Elizabeth that Mary visited. This would imply that these families knew each other, and that Jesus and John perhaps grew up together.

Why then, does it seem to indicate that John did not personally know Jesus when He came to be baptized?

Or if he did know Jesus, he didn’t seem to know about Jesus’ identity as Messiah.
like many people The Baptist probably knew Him awhile ago.
depends what you mean by know 👍
 
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