Did Jesus foresee the actual torture he was about to endure when he prayed in the garden of gethsemane

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When Jesus prayed to the Father in the Garden of Gethsemane and sweat blood, Did He foresee the agony that His precious Body would go threw?
 
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I assume that he did forsee it. He forsaw his betrayal and death, and he was in so much agony in the garden that he sweated blood and asked his Father if it was possible that the cup be taken away from him, but then submitted to endure what was to come. I think that through his divine nature he would have known what he was about to endure.
 
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Yes, plus He could see what the Romans do to criminals, not to mention the Jews stoning people to death. So He was familiar with the suffering of condemned criminals.
 
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Did He foresee the agony that His precious Body would go threw?
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One would not need to be omniscient to know. Roman torture and crucifixion were common, and the effects were no secret. Part of the purpose of making such punishment public was a deterrent.
 
True. Jesus was basically condemned as a rebel. If you look back around 60 years before, the Romans lined surviving slaves of the rebelling slave Sparticus’ rebellion and crucified them along the Appian Way. Somewhere around 6,000 were crucified that way on a public road. So traitors and rebels were not going to be given an easy death. So Christ did not need to use his divine powers to see what would happen to Him.
 
I understand that the Romans tortured and crucified many. What I basically am asking is do you believe that Jesus’s torture was a bit more. From His arrest to the nails being slammed into His hands and feet. God bless.🦋🦋
 
I believe He did know- and that’s what made His act so much more powerful
 
Blessed Anne Emmerich’s account says that He saw all the sins of the past, present, and future. Then He saw what He was endure during the Passion and that’s what made Him sweat blood.

This is private revelation though and not a part of the deposit of faith.
 
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I do believe that his scourging was a bit more than normally done. In fact, the fact that a healthy approximately 33 year old man who was most likely very physically fit, would have died in only three hours where most crucified took much longer (in some instances days) to die points to that. Crucifixion was a death by slow suffocation. Jesus bled to death in only three hours.
Disclaimer - the above is my own interpretation of the event. I do not claim this view is in any way, an official view of the church.
 
Didn’t Jesus have near-perfect foreknowledge? I’d expect that He’d know exactly what was coming, but maybe I’m wrong 😁
 
Another visionary, Blessed Mother Agreda relates that Jesus suffered intensely in the Garden of Olives because of the reprobates. IOW, that all of His suffering and death would be for nothing with them, and wished whole heartedly that they could be saved, but as He says “But thy will be done.” She also says that Jesus prayed for them very often throughout His entire life, and on occasion would sweat blood then too due to the intensity of His prayer.
 
I sometimes think the sweating blood and trouble was that being punished like this sorta goes against His Just nature as God, since He was perfect and deserved no punishment whatsoever. I could be wrong.
 
Yes, he knew it well.
He was the divine Son of God.
He sometimes openly told his disciples what would happen in the future. He knew ahead of time all his Apostles would abandon him when he was arrested. He knew he would be arrested and put to death, something he predicted repeatedly. He knew the Temple would be destroyed—etc.
 
He would have been keenly aware of what the Romans did to the condemned who were not Roman citizens.
 
Anne, He May have had an inkling from the age of 12. After His Baptism, He went off to dessert. He knew then. Coming back, He started His ministry. The agony in the Garden, HE KNEW! FATHER, IF THIS CUP CAN PASS, LET IT BE! But NOT MY WILL BUT THINE!
Why such a journey. You have my love, my Lord. In Jesus Name
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The way he foresaid it and his agony, yes, I think he knew. In fact he asked God to take away the cup (of suffering) before the event happened. He went on with it only because of his obedience to the Father’s will.
 
Jesus was God. When He became man, He did not cease to be God. He was omniscient the whole time. Every moment of His earthly life, He was aware of all things, past and present and future. All times are one to God.

But of course He dreaded what He knew He was about to suffer. Nobody likes to feel pain. Knowing the matter in every detail is not the same as feeling it happen to one’s body.
 
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