unto death] will enter heaven but only after purgation. Those Catholics and protestants even though baptized but having mortal sin [sin unto death] will not enter heaven ever.
Amen, dear brother Roy. Amen!
We are called to love God with our entire hearts, MINDS, souls and strength. Doctrine is the MINDS part.
Kind of you to check in! The time was spent battling the same fever that my kids have. All better now, I’ll try and catch up…Major Tom! I am hoping that your absence over the past few days is due to busy-ness in life and not due to your doing research on that Middle Ages crossing yourself reference!
After you have acknowledged that you have doctrines, and that you have no objection to the Catholic church teaching doctrines (rather, it’s the* number* of Catholic doctrines which you find intolerable), there is no need to provide a source for me about the above referenced teaching.
Intolerable! Now that I read that a second time, I chuckled at it. Technically, I’d have to say that was true. Probably not the word that I would have chosen, but the result has been the same.Major Tom! I am hoping that your absence over the past few days is due to busy-ness in life and not due to your doing research on that Middle Ages crossing yourself reference!
After you have acknowledged that you have doctrines, and that you have no objection to the Catholic church teaching doctrines (rather, it’s the* number* of Catholic doctrines which you find intolerable), there is no need to provide a source for me about the above referenced teaching.
Hope you’re all better. Thank God for fevers–it makes us slow down and there’s some evidence that fevers prevent bacteria and viruses from replicating as quickly!
Very good!
Roy didn’t. I was commenting on the lack of any positive, supporting statements to his statements. The more I thought of this the last few days, and re-read some posts, it was very naive of me to even ask the question. The vast majority of responses indicate that Catholics have their tent, thank you very much.BTW, where did Roy ask this? Perhaps that’s why there’s a deafening silence–no one has read nor seen his elusive question.
Dang. I can name you Noah’s sons and the three wise men, but I’m getting that one wrong!
'zactly! Which is why I was pointing out the hypocrisy–you won’t allow us to have our tent, yet you have your own tent (which, is not really that “big” in that it excludes White Supremacists, yes?)
Not if it includes the Baptists.Personally, I’m opting for Roy’s tent! (I’m hoping they serve beer).
I agree with you 100% on faith and action but my whole point is that Jesus of Nazareth did not limit his free gift of salvation only to certain believers rather he died for all of us. (Then comes the choice of accepting or rejecting his free gift of salvation.)
Sir Knight and Inkaneer. Do you guys seem to suggest that a mortal sin committed by a Protestant cannot be forgiven (or that Protestants can’t have their mortal sins forgiven)?
I disagree with your suggestion that “hell is sparsely populated”
Also: many are called but few are chosen.
Are you sure about that? Is that what Jesus said? Did He said that His blood was being shed for “All” for for “many” …
I’m saying that without access to the sacrament of Confession, it is much more unlikely they some will be able to die without having at least one mortal sin on their soul and let’s not forget …
I mean no disrespect to your friendship with this widow, Roy, when I say this: but* of course* your Catholic friend doesn’t accept all the doctrines and practices of the RCC.
[BIBLEDRB]1 Tim 2:4.[/BIBLEDRB]
Ah, it was helpful seeing you write it that way. No one is begrudging you, that you have standards to get into your tent. Instead, I think it’s two things. One is puzzlement at some of the entry requirements (we could refer to several ongoing threads on the site). Second, perhaps instead of a tent, let’s use a club as an example. Yours is member-only. The rest are public clubs that remain open to people from surrounding cities.'zactly! Which is why I was pointing out the hypocrisy–you won’t allow us to have our tent, yet you have your own tent (which, is not really that “big” in that it excludes White Supremacists, yes?)
Not if it includes the Baptists.
(Yikes! Is that another group you’d exclude? kidding…kidding!)
All that’s required to enter our “tent” is baptism, Tom.Ah, it was helpful seeing you write it that way. No one is begrudging you, that you have standards to get into your tent. Instead, I think it’s two things. One is puzzlement at some of the entry requirements (we could refer to several ongoing threads on the site). Second, perhaps instead of a tent, let’s use a club as an example. Yours is member-only. The rest are public clubs that remain open to people from surrounding cities.
Paul said “all”. Jesus said “many”. And, as I said above, don’t forget … [bibledrb]John 6:54[/bibledrb] … how many non-Catholics are receiving the Eucharist?
So what are you saying? Paul is incorrect? And the Catechism, then, too?
(I suppose you’re excluding the Orthodox in your “non-Catholic” list?)
Are you saying that Jesus is incorrect?
the POSSIBILITY of salvation.You are correct–those that do not receive Him, body, blood, soul and divinity shall not have life within them. Many indeed will be lost that do not have the Blessed Sacrament. However, those who have supernatural faith, perfect charity and perfect contrition still have the possibility of salvation.