Did Jesus prophecise Prophets to come after him?

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Peace,

Did Jesus prophecise prophets to come after him?
If no, where exactly in the Bible?

If yes, who were the prophets that came after Jesus’ departure? (now over 2000 years)

How would we test those prophets to see they are true prophets?

Note: If this is a real religious dialouge, don’t spam this stread. Don’t copy and paste articles. Say and validate your thoughts.
Stay Blessed,
dr0ws
 
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Peace,

Did Jesus prophecise prophets to come after him?
If no, where exactly in the Bible?

If yes, who were the prophets that came after Jesus’ departure? (now over 2000 years)

How would we test those prophets to see they are true prophets?

Note: If this is a real religious dialouge, don’t spam this stread. Don’t copy and paste articles. Say and validate your thoughts.
Stay Blessed,
dr0ws

No, He didn’t - so it’s not possible to give references to non-existent prophecies 🙂

What He *did *do, was to warn against false prophets - notably in Matthew 24

Hope that helps 🙂 ##
 
Thank you friend for your post,

No, He didn’t … What He did do, was to warn against false prophets - notably in Matthew 24​

If Jesus warns about false prophets, wouldn’t that mean that there are true prophets? If I am telling you, beware of false Christians, wouldn’t that mean that there are true ones? Or does it mean there are none?

Let me rephrase my question:
Does Jesus deny that there are prophets to come after him?
If no, where exactly?
If yes, who were they (now over 2000 years)
How would we know them
In peace,
dr0ws
 
Not necessarily, Jesus warns of false prophets to come, which admits that there are prophets, but it does not state that they are to come. The true prophets could be those of the Jewish religion such as Isaiah, Amos, etc.

If there are true prophets they would be in the Church, God does not change his mind because truth does not change, only our relationship to the truth does. Read the Early Church Fathers, they say the same thing that the Catholic Church continues to teach to this very day.
 
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dr0ws:
Peace,

Did Jesus prophecise prophets to come after him?
If no, where exactly in the Bible?

If yes, who were the prophets that came after Jesus’ departure? (now over 2000 years)

How would we test those prophets to see they are true prophets?

Note: If this is a real religious dialouge, don’t spam this stread. Don’t copy and paste articles. Say and validate your thoughts.
Stay Blessed,
dr0ws
No, It is mentioned clearly in the Bible. Luke 16:16 says
“The Law of Moses and the writings of the Prophets were in effect up to the time of John the Babtist”.(According to this Bible verses Mohammed was a false Prophet)

In Christ,
selvaraj
 
Jesus has told many false prophets will appear. And, his followers should be beware of them and you can identify by their fruits.

Matthew 7:15 Jesus told "Watch out for false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are voracious wolves. 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from thorns or figs from thistles, are they? 7:17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 7:18 A good tree is not able to bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree to bear good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 7:20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruit.

24:11 And many false prophets will appear and deceive many.
24:24 false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

What are the bad fruits ? Paul tells.

Galatians 5:19-21 “sexual immorality, impurity, depravity, idolatry, sorcery, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish rivalries, dissensions, factions, envying, murder, drunkenness, carousing, and similar things. I am warning you, as I had warned you before: Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God!”.

Mohammed had most of these bad fruits. If anyone wants, I can compare and explain those bad fruits with mohammed’s life.
 
You could quote Paul, speaking to the Corinthians of the false doctrine and prophet to come:

“I am concerned that just as Eve was deceived and beguiled by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may someday be corrupted. For if someone comes and preaches another Yahshua who is different, if you receive another spirit, or hear a different Gospel, you may be susceptible. I may not possess eloquent speech or be an Apostle who requires your obedience, but I know what is true and have manifest it to you…. The truth of Christ is in me. And I will continue doing this in order to cut the ground from under those who would seize the opportunity to boast. For such men are false prophets, deceitful teachers, masquerading as messengers of God. And no wonder, for **Satan transfigures and disguises himself into an angel of light ** i.e., Lucifer pretends to be Gabriel/Jibril].” (2 Corinthians 11 amplified from the original Greek.)

Paul is saying that Lucifer will transform himself into the image of an angel and deceive men using a false prophet. The messenger will be boastful, yet speak eloquently; he will be deceitful, yet require obedience (submission). He will come with a new Gospel. Exactly matches with Mohammed. 😃
 
Of course he did. Christ and all the prophets that came before him have stated over and over again , that His church “is the same today as it was yesterday and will be forever” If he sent prophets before hand and during his administration, when would he at our most confusing times stop sending a mouthpiece to ensure his word is correctly given, he laso stated that his “worlds and works are beyond numbers” Implying that there is more to come, and more to learn, as as his church always has and always will. He will reveal those things threw a prophet.

Think with your heart not your mind. it only makes sence that he would keep a prophet at the head of his church at all times. other wise you end up with corruption , and also was stated that you " shall know the treu religion by its fruits" so any church devout with corruption is obviously not the one…
 
I could see where this thread was going right away.
  1. Jesus himself was not a mere prophet. He is the second Person of the Holy Trinity. The incarnate God Man. A prophet is nothing compared to him.
  2. Any prophet to be true must conform to Jesus Christ and his Church. If they do not then they are false prophets.
  3. All the baptized are called to be priests, prophets, and kings. So all Christians are prophets.
As such a prophet I assert that Muhammed strikes out and was not a prophet. Jesus did not prophesy that Muhammed would come. Muhammed was not the paraclete, that is the Holy Spirit who is the third Person of the Holy Trinity.
 
lol no im not muslim. not even close.

When i said it only makes sence that he would keep a propeht at the head of his church at all times. “Ephesians 2: 20 - And are built opon the the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus christ being the cheif corner stone”] I ment a living prophet and living apostles Just as Christ is/was and always will be alive and at the head of his church…

Amos 3: 7
“Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets”

Revelation Chapter 11
“in the last days 2 prophets shall be slain in Jerusalem-After 3 and one half days they shall be resurrected-Christ shall reign over all the earth.”
 
I could see where this thread was going right away.
  1. Jesus himself was not a mere prophet. He is the second Person of the Holy Trinity. The incarnate God Man. A prophet is nothing compared to him.
  2. Any prophet to be true must conform to Jesus Christ and his Church. If they do not then they are false prophets.
  3. All the baptized are called to be priests, prophets, and kings. So all Christians are prophets.
As such a prophet I assert that Muhammed strikes out and was not a prophet. Jesus did not prophesy that Muhammed would come. Muhammed was not the paraclete, that is the Holy Spirit who is the third Person of the Holy Trinity.
👍 Cestus.

Christian prophets are so when they speak in accord with the once-and-for-all-times revelation in Christ as preserved by His Holy Catholic Church, not bringing new “revelation” that would correct or supercede what Christ Jesus has wrought.
 
Hebrews 1 rules out future prophets because Jesus is the final revelation.

Hebrews 1

1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

Jude 1:3 (King James Version)
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

And, there was a change of priesthood and that priesthood can not be passed on to others it is non-transferable.

Hebrews 7

1This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, 2and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, his name means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” 3Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever.
4Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder! 5Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, their brothers—even though their brothers are descended from Abraham. 6This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater. 8In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living. 9One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

11If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come—one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law. 13He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar. 14For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, 16one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the **power of an indestructible life. 17For it is declared:
“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”[a] ** 18The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

20And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath, 21but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him:
"**The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
‘You are a priest forever.’ " 22Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant. **

23Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; **24but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. **25Therefore he is able to save completely[c] those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

26Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. 27Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. 28For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.
 
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