Did Jesus' resurrected body have ALL it's scars?

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I was always under the impression that Jesus’ glorified body was clean with the only exception being the holes in his hands. I found this to be very arbitrary for other scars staying while others didn’t.

If he has wounds from the nails, why wouldn’t he also have the whip lashes, bruises, splinter holes, broken bones, thorn marks, etc.? Did he also have these as well on his glorified body?
 
Jesus also invited Thomas to put his hand in the spear wound in his side.

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It’s never occurred to me before to think He would have or should have retained all the scars.
For what I say next, I speak under correction from those who actually know what they’re talking about.

I think the nail scars and the spear wound are of importance for what they signify. For Him those are marks of glory. The lash cuts and other wounds aren’t the same thing.
 
Not just hands. “Behold my hands and my feet” as well as “Put you hand into my side”.

I remember reading one book from the 17th c. that addressed the Resurrection. It suggested that Jesus had shown himself, wounded and disfigured, to the Patriarchs and Prophets, to show what the price of disobedience had been. After that, his body was restored to its “natural perfection and integrity” as his soul was reunited with its body, and other stuff happened as well. (ie, the ability to pass through the rocks of the sepulchre; the ability to pass through the locked doors of the Upper Room; etc.)

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a saint’s writing or anything that specifically addressed why, say, the marks of the Crucifixion were kept, but the marks of the greater Passion surrounding it weren’t. I always kind of figured that the greater Passion was part of the overall Price, but it was the actual Death that was the Salvation/Redemption, if that makes sense? So the Crucifixion was the climax of everything-- like “the good part of the 1812 Overture”-- but the Passion was what led up to it-- like “the 15-20 minutes that it takes to get to the good part”. 🙂
 
I think Padre Pio reveived the wound on his shoulder as part of the stigmata, which I think I read that he described this as the most painful of all.

As for broken bones, Scripture says that not a bone of him will be broken
 
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I would imagine all of the scars would have to remain.

Otherwise how could we prove it’s the same body and not just some look-alike form Jesus reincarnated to?Which is what some Hindus believe happened to him.

The fact that the disciples didn’t recognize him at first also adds to the reincarnation explanation.
 
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He can make his glorified body be whatever he wants it to be surely?
 
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He was in the fulness of his divinity, so to speak. We do not know what he looks like except for what he wants to show us, perhaps with significant message.
 
Reuben_J said:
He was in the fulness of his divinity, so to speak. We do not know what he looks like except for what he wants to show us, perhaps with significant message.
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Not quite.

We know that after the Resurrection, He did have the nail marks and the speak mark. There’s no disputing that.

We also know that He ascended into Heaven still bearing those marks. Therefore we know (yes, we do KNOW absolutely) that He keeps those marks through all Eternity.

We KNOW that after the resurrection, His body changes no more. Done. Like that for all eternity. Period.
 
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I will START with St Thomas Aquinas
Christ willed the scars of His wounds to remain on His body, not only to confirm the faith of His disciples, but for other reasons also. From these it seems that those scars will always remain on His body; because, as Augustine says (Ad Consent., De Resurr. Carn.): “I believe our Lord’s body to be in heaven, such as it was when He ascended into heaven.” And Gregory (Moral. xiv) says that “if aught could be changed in Christ’s body after His Resurrection, contrary to Paul’s truthful teaching, then the Lord after His Resurrection returned to death; and what fool would dare to say this, save he that denies the true resurrection of the flesh?” Accordingly, it is evident that the scars which Christ showed on His body after His Resurrection, have never since been removed from His body.
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From there, I can work backwards and explain the Resurrection because that’s exactly what this topic is about.

Edit: source http://www.newadvent.org/summa/4054.htm#article4
 
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JoshuaIsLord said:
How bout a biblical reference. Not something abstracted from someone that came after the Church Fathers.
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You don’t think the Resurrection is biblical?

That’s the reference: The Resurrection of Christ from the dead.

Once dead, He can die no more. Once resurrected, His body can change no more. It’s perfect. Perfection cannot change.
 
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I will START with St Thomas Aquinas
Christ willed the scars of His wounds to remain on His body, not only to confirm the faith of His disciples, but for other reasons also. From these it seems that those scars will always remain on His body; because, as Augustine says (Ad Consent., De Resurr. Carn.): “I believe our Lord’s body to be in heaven, such as it was when He ascended into heaven.” And Gregory (Moral. xiv) says that “if aught could be changed in Christ’s body after His Resurrection, contrary to Paul’s truthful teaching, then the Lord after His Resurrection returned to death; and what fool would dare to say this, save he that denies the true resurrection of the flesh?” Accordingly, it is evident that the scars which Christ showed on His body after His Resurrection, have never since been removed from His body.
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So that is your reference that He never removes the scars. I can take that. Saints they may be, that is one man or two saying though, and I respect them.

However, I propose God is more than that. He can be what He wants to be, look what He wants to look like.

He is a God that is beyond our imagination. What he has shown as is what we know but He is infinite. We have to accept that there are things about God that we do not know.

The resurrection appearance definitely given with a message attached, which the saints you mentioned said so and which I said in my post. Beyond that we do not know.

God can be anything He wants to be. Humans try to size him up to be put in a box. He is bigger than that and all that you can imagine Him to be.

Sorry I have to stand by my post. You have to do better than that.
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JoshuaIsLord said:
I find this question you asked to be insulting and denigrating to the person who asked the question. He asked an honest question, and you belittled him.
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You presume it to be insulting and denigrating. And you presume that he was belittling. It could have been stated in a manner of shock or surprise.
 
I don’t think we can know. He at least still had his pierce marks as indicated by John 20:25-28. Perhaps he did still have the scars from the other injuries he received, but maybe they look “glorified” in his newly raised supernatural body. We won’t know until our resurrection.
 
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JoshuaIsLord said:
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FrDavid96:
Prove WHAT exactly,
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His body can change no more
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Because if His body is subject to change, then it is not perfect. If not perfect, then the resurrection is incomplete.

The Resurrection was the resurrection of the perfect body of Christ. It cannot change after the Resurrection.
 
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