Did jesus say this to maria valtorta?

[LEMAITRE]

Hello friends,

I have long subscribed to the viewpoint of theistic evolution i.e. evolution guided by the Hand of God as opposed to Darwins evolution guided by random events.

A friend from my church gave me some literature regarding Maria Valtorta whose cause for beatification is being considered by the Vatican.

The claim is that Our Lord appeared to her and provided instruction to her regarding the Gospels. Her writings are referred to as the Poem of the Man God or in later editions The Gospel as Revealed to Me. I asked whether it has been recognised and she replied that it has the Impramateur of Bishop Roman Danylak Titular Bishop of Nyssa/Toronto/Romoe. and that Pope Pius XII said of the work “Publish this work as it is, there is no need to say whether it is of supernatural origin, whoever reads it will understand”.

Anyhow getting to the point below where Jesus discussed Darwinism with Maria, which has me curious as Jesus never discussed Darwinism with Blessed Faustina or any other visionary AFAIK (please correct me).

**Jesus says to Maria:

 "One of the points at which your pride founders in error--which, above all, degrades precisely your haughtiness by giving you an origin that, if you were less corrupted by pride, you would repudiate as degrading--is that of Darwin's theory.

 In order not to admit God, who, in His power, was able to have created the universe from nothing and man from the already created mud, you take the paternity of a beast as your own.

Don't you realize you are diminishing yourselves, for--consider this--won't a beast--no matter how exemplary, selected, improved, and perfected in form and instinct, and, if your wish, even in mental formation--always be a beast?  Don't you realize this?  This testifies unfavorably regarding your pride as pseudo-supermen.

But if you fail to realize, I will not be the one to waste words to make you aware of it and converted from the error.  I ask you only one question which, in your great numbers, you have never asked yourselves.  And if you can answer Me with facts, I will no longer combat this degrading theory of yours.

If man is a spin-off from the monkey, which by progressive evolution has become man, how is it that over so many years in which you have maintained this theory you have never succeeded, not even with the perfected instruments and methods at present, in making a man from a monkey?  You could have taken the most intelligent offspring of a pair of intelligent moneys and then their intelligent offspring, and so on.  You would now have many generations of selected, instructed monkeys cared for by the most patient, tenacious, and sagacious scientific method.  But you would still have monkeys.  If there happened to be a mutation, it would be this: the beasts would be physically less strong than the former ones and morally more degenerate, for, with all your methods and instruments, you would have destroyed that perfection of the monkey which My Father created for these quadrumans.

Another question.  If man came from the monkey, how is it that man, even with grafts and repugnant forms of cross-fertilization, does not become a monkey again?  You would be capable even of attempting these horrors if you knew that it could give approvative sanction to your theory.  But you do not do so because you know that you would not be able to turn a man into a monkey.  You would turn him into an ugly son of man, a degenerate, perhaps a criminal.  But never a real monkey.  You do not try because you know beforehand that you would get a poor result and your reputation would emerge therefrom in ruins.

For this reason you do not do so.  For no other.  For you feel no remorse or horror over degrading a man to the level of a beast to maintain a thesis of yours.  You are capbable of this and of much more.  You are already beasts because you deny God and kill the spirit, which distinguishes you from the beasts.

Your science causes Me horror. You degrade the intellect and like madmen do not even realize you are degrading it. In truth, I tell you that many of the primitive are more men than you are."**

 

[Corki]

The Vatican has NOT accepted the cause for Maria’s cannonization. There have been some local efforts.

In either case, any alleged apparition of the Lord to Maris would be an unapproved revelati9on and is not allowed to be discussed on CAF.