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What did Jesus mean when He said “It would be better for that man if he had never been born”? We can’t throw those words out of the Holy Scriptures.
We know that Jesus always tells the truth. What did He mean when He said that?
If Judas winds up in Heaven is that statement still true?
Does Jesus engage in hyperbole?
If not then why should we not take His words at face value?
If Judas winds up happy with the Lord in Heaven forever–how can Jesus’ words “It would have been better for that man if he had never been born be true?”
If Judas did repent when he brought back the pieces of silver it would appear that he mortally sinned when he hanged himself–I say appear because if he was mentally ill and couldn’t give Full consent of his will then hanging himself would not have been a mortal sin.
The question still remains though–how could Jesus’ words–“It would have been better for that man to have never been born” if he goes to Heaven to be happy with the Lord?
I don’t know how Jesus’ words can be true AND Judas still winds up forever happy in heaven with the Lord?
Does anyone out there know how it would be possible?
What do we know about Judas? We know that he was in charge of the Lord’s and the disciple’s money. John indicates that he stole from the purse.
Did Satan enter him when he decided to betray Jesus?
Judas had free will as we all do. Jesus certainly would have forgiven Judas if Judas was contrite and sorry for his sin just as He forgave Peter for betraying him 3 times.
When Judas said that he had betrayed innocent blood was he truly sorry and repentant?
When he hanged himself was he in the grave and mortal sin of despair which is a mortal sin against the Holy Spirit–or was he mentally unable to give consent to that despair?
And even if he was not able to give consent to that despair–so that wouldn’t send him to Hell–and even if he was repentant for betraying Jesus–which means he would have been forgiven and not go to Hell–was he repentant for all his other sins prior to his betrayals of Jesus? If he was sorry on all counts and unable to give consent when he hanged himself then he would go to Heaven.
What are the chances that all of that is true and that there is another meaning to Jesus saying “It would have been better for that man if he had never been born?”
We do not know Judas’ fate–only Jesus can judge but scripture says that Jesus prayed and told the Father that none had been taken out of his hands except for one the Son of Perdition so the scriptures would be fulfilled.
Is it likely that Satan would enter Judas enough to where he would betray the Son of God to death and then later that Judas would repent–and on top of that be out of his mind so that he didn’t give full consent when he hanged himself or in the split second during the drop of his hangman’s rope had cried out to the Lord in true contrition?
And if that happened how can it be true what the Lord had said “It would have been better if that man had never been born”?
Were the words “It would have been better if that man had never been born”–were they put in the bible by inspiration of the Holy Spirit for the benefit of our salvation? Are they to give us good and holy fear of the Lord which the scriptures say is the beginning of all wisdom or do his words mean something entirely different–maybe even something we are not meant to understand.
Possibly. We don’t know how Jesus judged Judas after his death but we do know this: It is a fearful thing to betray the Son of God–it is a fearful thing to possibly despair and hang oneself. It is a fearful thing to steal from the Lord’s purse.
This is my opinion: Jesus forgave Peter for betraying him 3 times–He can forgive us for anything that we are truly sorry for–repent now and pray to the Lord that He won’t say about us “It would be better for us if we had never been born”! Better to hear the Lord say “Good and faithful servant, Enter into the joy of your Father’s house”!
We know that Jesus always tells the truth. What did He mean when He said that?
If Judas winds up in Heaven is that statement still true?
Does Jesus engage in hyperbole?
If not then why should we not take His words at face value?
If Judas winds up happy with the Lord in Heaven forever–how can Jesus’ words “It would have been better for that man if he had never been born be true?”
If Judas did repent when he brought back the pieces of silver it would appear that he mortally sinned when he hanged himself–I say appear because if he was mentally ill and couldn’t give Full consent of his will then hanging himself would not have been a mortal sin.
The question still remains though–how could Jesus’ words–“It would have been better for that man to have never been born” if he goes to Heaven to be happy with the Lord?
I don’t know how Jesus’ words can be true AND Judas still winds up forever happy in heaven with the Lord?
Does anyone out there know how it would be possible?
What do we know about Judas? We know that he was in charge of the Lord’s and the disciple’s money. John indicates that he stole from the purse.
Did Satan enter him when he decided to betray Jesus?
Judas had free will as we all do. Jesus certainly would have forgiven Judas if Judas was contrite and sorry for his sin just as He forgave Peter for betraying him 3 times.
When Judas said that he had betrayed innocent blood was he truly sorry and repentant?
When he hanged himself was he in the grave and mortal sin of despair which is a mortal sin against the Holy Spirit–or was he mentally unable to give consent to that despair?
And even if he was not able to give consent to that despair–so that wouldn’t send him to Hell–and even if he was repentant for betraying Jesus–which means he would have been forgiven and not go to Hell–was he repentant for all his other sins prior to his betrayals of Jesus? If he was sorry on all counts and unable to give consent when he hanged himself then he would go to Heaven.
What are the chances that all of that is true and that there is another meaning to Jesus saying “It would have been better for that man if he had never been born?”
We do not know Judas’ fate–only Jesus can judge but scripture says that Jesus prayed and told the Father that none had been taken out of his hands except for one the Son of Perdition so the scriptures would be fulfilled.
Is it likely that Satan would enter Judas enough to where he would betray the Son of God to death and then later that Judas would repent–and on top of that be out of his mind so that he didn’t give full consent when he hanged himself or in the split second during the drop of his hangman’s rope had cried out to the Lord in true contrition?
And if that happened how can it be true what the Lord had said “It would have been better if that man had never been born”?
Were the words “It would have been better if that man had never been born”–were they put in the bible by inspiration of the Holy Spirit for the benefit of our salvation? Are they to give us good and holy fear of the Lord which the scriptures say is the beginning of all wisdom or do his words mean something entirely different–maybe even something we are not meant to understand.
Possibly. We don’t know how Jesus judged Judas after his death but we do know this: It is a fearful thing to betray the Son of God–it is a fearful thing to possibly despair and hang oneself. It is a fearful thing to steal from the Lord’s purse.
This is my opinion: Jesus forgave Peter for betraying him 3 times–He can forgive us for anything that we are truly sorry for–repent now and pray to the Lord that He won’t say about us “It would be better for us if we had never been born”! Better to hear the Lord say “Good and faithful servant, Enter into the joy of your Father’s house”!
