Did Mary die or not?/Assumption

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I know that her body and soul was assumed into heaven, but did she die first and then assumed or shortly after the ascension of our lord was her body and soul assumed into heaven while she was still (physically) living? What did the early Christians believe about the assumption btw? Just wondering.

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I’m a new Catholic so I’m joining the thread to read the answers.
 
She died, was raised by Christ on the 3rd day, and immediately assumed body and soul into heaven.
 
There is an existing thread running on this and nobody is giving me a straight answer there.

The question should be:

Is the death of Mary a Church doctrine that binds Catholics upon pain of mortal sin?
Are Catholics who do not believe Mary died before being assumed committing a sin of grave matter?
 
thistle said:
There is an existing thread running on this and nobody is giving me a straight answer there.

The question should be:

Is the death of Mary a Church doctrine that binds Catholics upon pain of mortal sin?
Are Catholics who do not believe Mary died before being assumed committing a sin of grave matter?
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From my understanding, it is not binding upon Catholics to believe one way or the other. I believe that you are free to believe that she did die or that she did not die. What you are bound to believe, as I am sure you know, is that the end of her life on earth, she was assumed body and soul into heaven.
 
ConstantineTG said:
She died, was raised by Christ on the 3rd day, and immediately assumed body and soul into heaven.
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I asked my priest about this last Saturday at our church picnic and he said she fell into a deep sleep and was taken into heaven. Death is the penalty for sin and because she never sinned, she did not die. He’s a canon lawyer but I have no idea what his theological training is other than what he needs to be a priest for 9 years.

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Since no one else is biting I found an Eastern Catholic and they said that before she died Gabriel came and told her that her time had come. She told the Disciples and they were with her. They carried her body to a tomb and they heard angel choirs singing and on the third day they no longer heard the angels so they looked and she was gone.

My priest said most Roman Catholics believe she fell into a sleep and was assumed that way. I believe that death is a penalty for sin and so she wouldn’t have had to die. Both views are very interesting.
 
Two people have stated that death is punishment for sin. I don’t think so.

If anything, it is a result of sin, the consequence of original sin. Original sin disrupted the natural order of creation in which there was no death.

I don’t think that death is punishment.

-Tim-
 
Irishgal49 said:
Since no one else is biting I found an Eastern Catholic and they said that before she died Gabriel came and told her that her time had come. She told the Disciples and they were with her. They carried her body to a tomb and they heard angel choirs singing and on the third day they no longer heard the angels so they looked and she was gone.

My priest said most Roman Catholics believe she fell into a sleep and was assumed that way. I believe that death is a penalty for sin and so she wouldn’t have had to die. Both views are very interesting.
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Jesus died and He never sinned. The Mother is not greater than or more privileged than the Son.

The most traditional Roman Catholic belief is that she died and then was raised from the dead and assumed body and soul into heaven, thus foreshadowing our own bodily resurrection. That is what we who die in Christ have to look forward to. But the Church has made no official pronouncement, just that at the end of her earthly life she was assumed body and soul into heaven.
 
By the way, there are no beliefs that are “must be believed under pain of mortal sin”. Nothing. Nada.
 
CB_Catholic said:
Jesus died and He never sinned. The Mother is not greater than or more privileged than the Son.

The most traditional Roman Catholic belief is that she died and then was raised from the dead and assumed body and soul into heaven, thus foreshadowing our own bodily resurrection. That is what we who die in Christ have to look forward to. But the Church has made no official pronouncement, just that at the end of her earthly life she was assumed body and soul into heaven.
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Jesus died as part of the plan to redeem us from sin. His death was needed in the eternal plan of salvation. Mary never sinned and did not have the taint of original sin on her soul, therefore she did not have to die. Whether she did or not we have no idea, but I do not believe that she did since my priest said she did not die.
 
Irishgal49 said:
Jesus died as part of the plan to redeem us from sin. His death was needed in the eternal plan of salvation. Mary never sinned and did not have the taint of original sin on her soul, therefore she did not have to die. Whether she did or not we have no idea, but I do not believe that she did since my priest said she did not die.
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Catholic and Orthodox belief is aligned largely on this text: The Account of St. John the Theologian of the Falling Asleep of the Holy Mother of God.
 
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