Did Mary have birth pangs?

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I know that according to tradition, Mary did not have any pain in giving birth to Jesus because she was preserved from mortal sin. However! In Revelations, it talks about how the “woman clothed with the sun” had birth pangs and cried with agony as she was giving birth. What does one make of this? Is Revelations not taking about Mary then?
 
I understand the tradition, but I don’t see how preservation from Original Sin necessitates preservation from the consequences of Original Sin that have affected and been transmitted through the human condition (such as the pain of childbirth). This is particularly true, it seems, if one understands Original Sin primarily as the loss of preternatural grace, in which case, the restoration of this grace does not automatically necessitate the restoration of the pre-Fall human condition. After all, death was a consequence of the Fall, and Mary died (or, at least, was on the point of death).
 
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I know that according to tradition, Mary did not have any pain in giving birth to Jesus because she was preserved from mortal sin. However! In Revelations, it talks about how the “woman clothed with the sun” had birth pangs and cried with agony as she was giving birth. What does one make of this? Is Revelations not taking about Mary then?
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Chapter 12 is talking about the birth of the Church which was persecuted from the very beginning.
 
I understand the tradition, but I don’t see how preservation from Original Sin necessitates preservation from the consequences of Original Sin that have affected and been transmitted through the human condition (such as the pain of childbirth). This is particularly true, it seems, if one understands Original Sin primarily as the loss of preternatural grace, in which case, the restoration of this grace does not automatically necessitate the restoration of the pre-Fall human condition. After all, death was a consequence of the Fall, and Mary died (or, at least, was on the point of death).
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Dr. Ludvig Ott says in his Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma that theologians have considered the undamaging manner of the birth of Christ to imply its painlessness.
Mary bore her Son without any violation of her virginal integrity. (De fide on the ground of the general promulgation of the doctrine.)
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The dogma asserts the fact of the continuance of Mary’s physical virginity without determining more closely how this is to be physiologically explained. In general the Fathers and the Schoolmen conceived it as non-injury to the hymen, and accordingly taught that Mary gave birth in miraculous fashion without opening of the womb and injury to the hymen, and consequently without pains (cf. S. th III 28, 2).
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I know that according to tradition, Mary did not have any pain in giving birth to Jesus because she was preserved from mortal sin. However! In Revelations, it talks about how the “woman clothed with the sun” had birth pangs and cried with agony as she was giving birth. What does one make of this? Is Revelations not taking about Mary then?
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D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Rev 12:2

Ver. 2. With child, &c., to signify that the Church, even in the time of persecutions, brought forth children to Christ. (Witham) — It likewise signifies the difficulties which obstructed the first propagation of Christianity. (Pastorini)
 
The Church teaches with respect to the Virgin Birth that the Blessed Mother of Jesus Christ was a virgin before, during, and after the birth of her Divine Son.
 
When applied to Mary, the birth pains are not physical but rather emotional, probably from the fact that Satan was waiting to devour her child.
 
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