Did merchants and money changers from the Temple go to hell?

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I have a silly question. If God personally overturns your table, and probably yelling something at you… You probably go to hell, but no way to know for certain of course.
 
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If God personally overturns your table, and probably yelling something at you
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My child, do not despise the Lord’s discipline
or be weary of his reproof,
for the Lord reproves the one he loves,
as a father the son in whom he delights. - Proverbs 3:11-12
 
We can never know the personal relationship between a person and God, we can hope in God’s infinite mercy that those money changers in the temple would come to know God.

That being said, this is a good point to demonstrate a hidden meaning of the temple narrative. This event is dramatized in every single movie and the story itself is rather dramatic, Jesus losing his temper, amazing!

Though, the part that too few of us learn is why did Jesus actually get so mad? Often, the most common response was, “well, they were money changers and charging too much money”. That’s the definition of usury, which is sinful matter, but would that cause Jesus to lose his temper? Weren’t there plenty of other folks in the time that were sinning and yet Jesus did not get mad? Even at more serious sins than usury?

The reason Jesus lost his temper at the temple was because they were selling the animals and exchanging the money INSIDE the temple, not outside. The temple was situated in “rings” of sorts, with the inner most reserved for the priests, the second for the male Jews, the third for the female Jews, and the final and fourth ring was for everyone else (gentiles). So, the Jews, not thinking about the gentiles, took the space that was reserved for the gentiles and turned it into the marketplace. So, Jesus lost his temper because the Jews took the space that was reserved for the Gentiles and they could not worship in God’s house. And, we all know that God wants everyone, every human, Jew or gentile, to come to know God’s love for us.
 
  1. There is no way to know for certain
  2. Jesus may have actually been angrier at the authorities who let such things go on than at the individuals who were just doing what they were allowed to do
  3. Some people were probably ignorant of the fact that they were offending God until Jesus made it quite clear
  4. In any event, repentance before death is always possible, as the person above said
 
He is God. Yes He can lose temper. He can do whatever He wants and still be God. We only mimick Him in the way of the Cross. He said so.
We are not God. Not even the sum of us.
Some say at the Final Judgement we will tempted (tested) to sit of God’s throne lime Adam has done. Some mystic Christian hermits that is.
We should cherish everytime we follow Christ on the Cross and fear we should ever feel or think we can be everything who He was in full. That is what I think at least.
God bless you
 
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He is God. Yes He can lose temper. He can do whatever He wants and still be God
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That by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have the strongest comfort, who have fled for refuge to hold fast the hope set before us. - Hebrews 6:18

God is not a man, that he should lie, nor as the son of man, that he should be changed. Hath he said then, and will he not do? hath he spoken, and will he not fulfill? - Numbers 23:19

God cannot do anything that goes against His immutable nature.
 
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And how do you know God’s immutable nature is to never lose temper?
 
Because losing ones temper is an emotion, which is a movement, which is a change. God has no passions as his immutability is absolute.

Christ’s expressions of anger were done in his human nature, not his divine.
 
Please give me some sort of reference for these ideas. Canon laws, quotes from theologians, quotes from saints.
 
There is such a thing as Righteous anger.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with emotion so long as they flow from rationality.

It is the misuse or the getting carried away in passions that are sinful.
 
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I don’t understand these differences. Where Canon laws apply and where not. I thought they represent Catholic dogma.
I do need references for that post because to say God is completely divided from human nature contradicts the idea of unity in Trinity where one Person of the Trinity has a double nature - Christ. Does this not mean that God who is one with the Son can have emotions? We are Christians we know that the only way to know God is through Christ who has a double nature. So for us shouldn’t we acknowledge His emotions also?
What reference should I ask for from @porthos11 for what he said? It seems to me he is refering probably to miaphysistism where the Divine nature of Christ overcomes and consumes His humanity. Only then the claim of God’s complete lack of emotions can be sustained. Miaphysitism is recognized as heresy by both Catholic and Orthodox. Am I wrong? Since it is a heresy isn’t also a case for canon law?
I don’t know for sure, I am asking.
 
No miaphysitism or monophysitism here.

When talking about Christ and his actions, we distinguish between the two natures and follow the rules of the Communication of Idioms when making statements about the Person.

We say Christ, as man, experienced anger. As God, he did not. As man, he grew and learned, asGod he did not. As God, Christ created the world. As man, he did not. As man, Jesus experienced change; as God he does not.

But all these are of the one divine Person.
 
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