Did RCIA , Got Baptized and Entered the Church, but still living with boyfriend?

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Oneofthewomen said:
I think today’s homily from Pope Francis is the only answer that this thread needs.

You can find it here.

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Of course we should be welcoming, but we are not to go on living in sin after entering the Church. I’m sure the Holy Father doesn’t endorse that, and I’m not saying the OP is doing that since I cannot know that. She should be following her priest’s direction, of course. It is hoped that her situation will be regularized ASAP for she cannot go on indefinitely as she is.

Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery but he also told her to go and sin no more. At some point sin must be abandoned no matter how awkward or painful it might be. After all, the Church doesn’t lure anyone into sin, nor can she overlook sin. Like a good physician she has to heal sinners by encouraging and enabling their repentance and change of life. That is the truly loving thing to do. 🙂
 
Oneofthewomen said:
I think today’s homily from Pope Francis is the only answer that this thread needs.

You can find it here.

Here is a taste.
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The women the OP mentioned should have been welcomed, of course, and they were. And they should be doing as they are directed by their priest. It is hoped that their situation will be regularized ASAP for they cannot go on indefinitely as they are.

No one should suggest that we keep people out by enforcing Church laws like a cop pulling over a drunk driver. Instead, the Church is a physician whom no one should be ashamed to come to with his wounds brought about by sin. We’re all poor sinners, after all. We can’t let pride keep people out or keep us from coming to the best place to find healing. Likewise, we can’t excuse sin and let people think they can go on sinning without doing harm to themselves and others. Love doesn’t mean looking the other way, it means helping people find forgiveness and newness of life. 🙂
 
I think that it is very important to note that the original poster is talking about people she knows, not herself.

The OP, nor we, have any knowledge of what these 2 people in question were told by their respective priests, therefore none of us are in any position to judge the state of their souls.
TrueLight said:
I know of a least two women who entered the Church while still living with their boyfriends. One has no kids and is trying to do the brother-sister thing while the other one has kids with the boyfriend and is just “trying”.

How can one enter the church and be baptized while in a state of sin?
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Oneofthewomen said:
I think that it is very important to note that the original poster is talking about people she knows, not herself.

The OP, nor we, have any knowledge of what these 2 people in question were told by their respective priests, therefore none of us are in any position to judge the state of their souls.
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Tigg said:
I find it incredulous that while we may not “gossip” or judge the state of anyone’s soul, the overlying theme of posts seems to be condemnation for the OP instead of concern for the level of truth being taught in these programs and how it impacts participants. When I was involved with RCIA it was not just an instruction program, but a spiritual journey of love and authentic conversion. This just reinforces my astonishment at the deficiency of many RCIA courses and the manner in which they are run. In a previous parish, our pastor himself recognized this and did not delegate such importance to anyone. As busy as he was, he gave the initial classes to evangelize and light the fire (in a parish of 5,000 registered families.) That is how significant he personally believed RCIA to be.

On a side note, a recent convert and friend was outside a neighboring parish waiting for daily Mass to start and drinking his coffee. Since this particular week-day Mass only runs about 20 minutes, I couldn’t help but wonder if he was aware of the very fundamental rule of fast concerning the Eucharist. Am I gossiping too, or showing a genuine concern for the state of catechesis in the church today?
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Modern Catholic Dictionary:

GOSSIP. Idle talk, especially about others. The morality of gossip is determined by the degree to which time is wasted in useless conversation, by the failure in justice or charity committed against others, and by the damage done to people’s reputation by those who gossip.
 
We do not know that these couples are not suceeding or at least earnestly trying to live chastly. We should not be quick to judge what we do not have full knowledge of.

We should wish these people well in their desire to return to full Communion with the Church. Their situation is far from easy.
 
thistle said:
Actually that is none of your business. I cannot imagine you know the whole story from the side of the people involved or from the Church’s side.
Stop gossiping.
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What exactly is the sin of scandal?
 
Pope Francis would be the first one to tell you not to sweat it.

Frankly, it’s none of your business. I think we each have enough of our own sinfulness to worry about.
 
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