Did Roe v. Wade make a determination when human life began or just say it's a privacy issue?

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And the court got it wrong on the privacy issue as they made it up out of nothing. The government intrudes on your privacy all the time and some examples are that a person cannot be a prostitute or do certain drugs and claim this same privacy argument.

The state has an interest in having laws that make such things illegal and the whole abortion issue should have been left to the various state legislatures. As is always the case with the left, they love it when the courts do in fact make laws which is something they shouldn’t be doing according to our system of government.
 
The court did not come to a conclusion on when life begins.
The reasoning of the court on this point could hardly have been more specious.
From the case:
“Texas urges that, apart from the Fourteenth Amendment, life begins at conception and is present throughout pregnancy, and that, therefore, the State has a compelling interest in protecting that life from and after conception. We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins. When those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus, the judiciary, at this point in the development of man’s knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer.”
Actually, the medical discipline is not so ambivalent:The development of a human begins with fertilization… (Langman’s Medical Embryology)
It is a general judicial rule not to decide things that don’t have to be decided.
That is reasonable. What is not reasonable is allowing a life to be destroyed without determining whether or not what is being destroyed is or is not human life.
The court actually spent a significant amount of time surveying the various views on that question, from modern days back to ancient times. They addressed Catholic dogma on the topic, though whether they got that right is debateable (see discussion at forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=735203)
Their “survey” was little more than an attempt to show that, since the question of the beginning of life was unknown in the past, it was equally unknown today. In fact, raising the point about theology and philosophy simply deflects attention from the point that this is a purely scientific question. It implies that it is merely theoretical, a question about which those with different theologies or philosophies may reasonably disagree. Thus their remark that*The latter [life begins at conception] is now, of course, the official belief of the Catholic Church.
*This implies that it is simply a question of faith, of belief, and that the church has some doctrine expressing this. Neither is accurate. It is the conclusion of science, which the church accepts, but about which she has no doctrine. It is not her place to form doctrines on matters of science.

It makes absolutely no sense to allow abortion prior to viability, and also recognize that*With respect to the State’s important and legitimate interest in potential life, the “compelling” point is at viability. This is so because the fetus then presumably has the capability of meaningful life outside the mother’s womb.
*What does “life outside the mother’s womb” mean? If it is born is it not at least then a baby? But if it is a baby outside the womb, what is it when still inside? Also, what could the word “meaningful” possibly mean in this context? It is no wonder that Roe is still seen as a reprehensible decision. It’s “reasoning” cannot improve with time.

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Actually, the medical discipline is not so ambivalent:The development of a human begins with fertilization… (Langman’s Medical Embryology)
That is reasonable. What is not reasonable is allowing a life to be destroyed without determining whether or not what is being destroyed is or is not human life.
Their “survey” was little more than an attempt to show that, since the question of the beginning of life was unknown in the past, it was equally unknown today. In fact, raising the point about theology and philosophy simply deflects attention from the point that this is a purely scientific question. It implies that it is merely theoretical, a question about which those with different theologies or philosophies may reasonably disagree. Thus their remark that*The latter [life begins at conception] is now, of course, the official belief of the Catholic Church.
*This implies that it is simply a question of faith, of belief, and that the church has some doctrine expressing this. Neither is accurate. It is the conclusion of science, which the church accepts, but about which she has no doctrine. It is not her place to form doctrines on matters of science.
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The Church has always been against abortion. It appears that the moment a woman realizes she is pregnant, or with child, she goes to a doctor who counsels her about diet and habits she may have, like smoking, and urges her to help the child. It is alive at that moment and must be nurtured and protected. But the Supreme Court, acting as if becoming pregnant is a concept not defined by doctors or lay people, made not only a bad decision but an irrational decision.

Jane Roe in Roe v. Wade never got an abortion so why did it end up becoming a case before the Supreme Court? A right granted but never used? Her real name is Norma McCorvey. She is actively pro-life.

I lost all faith in the Judiciary in 1973. The death toll has passed 53 million in the US and 400 million in China. From my point of view, those against people having babies are realizing their agenda. Pray for them.

lifenews.com/2011/09/26/abortions-death-toll-53-million-u-s-400-million-in-china/

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