Did St. Paul condemn fasting-days?

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My dear fellow Catholics!

A question has occured to me I’m not able to solve on my own.

According to Church teaching, if we don’t fast on the days the church has appointed for fasting, we’re sinning. But the more I read in the letters of St. Paul, the more I get the idea that he would’ve condemned such teaching. Of course he would’ve been the last to denounce fasting in itself. But, I think, what he would’ve denounced would be: If you don’t fast on this or that day, you’re sinning.

Note what he writes in Col:

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Please also note how severely Paul condemned the practices of the Law, including obligatory fasting, when writing to the Galatians, who were in danger to return to the practices of the Law:

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

Well, if anyone could link me to an internetarticle dissolving this problem, or could put forth arguments himself, I would be very glad.

Yours.
 
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My dear fellow Catholics!

A question has occured to me I’m not able to solve on my own.

According to Church teaching, if we don’t fast on the days the church has appointed for fasting, we’re sinning. But the more I read in the letters of St. Paul, the more I get the idea that he would’ve condemned such teaching. Of course he would’ve been the last to denounce fasting in itself. But, I think, what he would’ve denounced would be: If you don’t fast on this or that day, you’re sinning.

Note what he writes in Col:

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Please also note how severely Paul condemned the practices of the Law, including obligatory fasting, when writing to the Galatians, who were in danger to return to the practices of the Law:

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

Well, if anyone could link me to an internetarticle dissolving this problem, or could put forth arguments himself, I would be very glad.

Yours.
The quick and dirty answer is that St. Paul was speaking to remind his audiences that to regard the Old Law and its rituals as salvific was to have fallen from grace. Now that the New Covenant is here, we are no longer bound by the old rituals.

Of course, St. Paul, as is evident from the story of the great Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15, understood very well the authority of the church to bind and to loose. And, of course, the Church’s fasts are nothing more than that authority in action.
 
The quick and dirty answer is that St. Paul was speaking to remind his audiences that to regard the Old Law and its rituals as salvific was to have fallen from grace. Now that the New Covenant is here, we are no longer bound by the old rituals.

Yeah, but if you regard fasting on this and that day as salvic(and this it is, because if you don’t fast you’re sinning), don’t you think that you’re letting the Old Convenant intrude into the New Convenant of Grace?

Well, I would be happy about further answers.

Yours.
 
Establishing Christian fast days is a legitimate exercise of Church disciplinary authority. The author of Hebrews says:

17Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you. (Hebrews 13:17)

Jude is less restrained in his comments about those who reject authority:

10But these men revile whatever they do not understand, and by those things that they know by instinct as irrational animals do, they are destroyed. 11Woe to them! For they walk in the way of Cain, and abandon themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam’s error, and perish in Korah’s rebellion. 12These are blemishes on your love feasts, as they boldly carouse together, looking after themselves; waterless clouds, carried along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted; 13wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars for whom the nether gloom of darkness has been reserved for ever. (Jude 1:10-13)

I don’t think Jesus would have a problem with a Christian fast day:
20The days will come, when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast in that day. (Mark 2:20)
I don’t think Paul would have a problem with a Christian fast day:
2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3Then after fasting and praying they laid their hands on them and sent them off. (Acts 13:2-3)

23And when they [Barnabas and Paul] had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they believed. (Acts 14:23)
 
I think you need to study this is the context of the passages that deal with it throughout the New Testament.

Matthew 17:20 But this kind is not cast out but by prayer and fasting.

Mark 9:28 And he said to them: This kind can go out by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.

Acts Of Apostles 13 :2 And as they were ministering to the Lord, and fasting, the Holy Ghost said to them: Separate me Saul and Barnabas, for the work whereunto I have taken them. 3 Then they, fasting and praying, and imposing their hands upon them, sent them away.

Acts Of Apostles 14:22 And when they had ordained to them priests in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, in whom they believed.

Matthew 6:16 And when you fast, be not as the hypocrites, sad. For they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Amen I say to you, they have received their reward.

Matthew 6:18 That thou appear not to men to fast, but to thy Father who is in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret, will repay thee.

Matthew 9:14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying: Why do we and the Pharisees fast often, but thy disciples do not fast? 15 And Jesus said to them: Can the children of the bridegroom mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then they shall fast.

Mark 2:18 And the disiples of John and the Pharisees used to fast; and they come and say to him: Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast; but thy disciples do not fast? 19 And Jesus saith to them: Can the children of the marriage fast, as long as the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. 20 But the days will come when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them; and then they shall fast in those days.

Luke 5:33 And they said to him: Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and the disciples of the Pharisees in like manner; but thine eat and drink? 34 To whom he said: Can you make the children of the bridegroom fast, whilst the bridegroom is with them? 35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, then shall they fast in those days.

Luke 18:12 I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess.

Nowhere does the church tell us that our fasting days are salvific, but that they have merit before God, (which can be negated by bad intentions) which is pretty clear from the context of the passages above.

The first passage that you have cited in your post actually does not deal with fasting at all, but with eating food that has been offered to idols. The second is pretty much irrelevent since it deals with apostasy and the Catholic Church is not in that position.

The sin that you may be referring to is one of disobedience to the discipline of the church. When the whole church is called to do penance by those placed in authority over us by the Lord then it is a holy and a wholesome thing to cooperate with that direction and to defy it would be sinful, since they have only the good of our souls at heart.

I assume that you are referring to the Lenten fasts which are Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. (Little enough to ask of us IMO.) The call to penance is to remind us again of the terrible price that Our Lord paid for our sins (MY SINS…to bring it home personally.) and where exactly can this humble meditation be considered a return to the law? Believers who are mindful of the price we were bought with are less likely to fall into sin. (Works for me anyway!)

I don’t know where you got this idea from but it’s a non-Catholic one, and the passages that you have used are pulled out of context and twisted to apply to something that they do not mean.
Pax tecum,
 
Matthew 4:2
After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

Matthew 6:16
Fasting ] "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.17But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face,
18so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Matthew 9:14
Jesus Questioned About Fasting ] Then John’s disciples came and asked him, “How is it that we and the Pharisees fast, but your disciples do not fast?” 15 Jesus answered, "How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast.

Mark 2:18
Jesus Questioned About Fasting ] Now John’s disciples and the Pharisees were fasting. Some people came and asked Jesus, "How is it that John’s disciples and the disciples of the Pharisees are fasting, but yours are not?"19 Jesus answered, "How can the guests of the bridegroom fast while he is with them? They cannot, so long as they have him with them.
20 But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them, and on that day they will fast.

Luke 5:33
Jesus Questioned About Fasting ] They said to him, “John’s disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking.” 34
Jesus answered, “Can you make the guests of the bridegroom fast while he is with them? 35 But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; in those days they will fast.”

Acts 13:2
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."3 So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.

Acts 14:23
Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.

Jesus fasted, and taught on fasting, and the earily chruch fasted.

What’s the big deal?
 
Well, thank you for your answers!

I deem that the Hebrew-citation(submit to your elders…) perfectly suffices for explaining why Catholics fast on the fasting-days - I’m not a bible scholar and may easily overread some passages. Thank you, therefore.

Yours.
 
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