Did tbe Church restrict scientific thought or development during the "Dark Ages"?

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There’s a bit more to it than the simple version you state. If you consider the ratios of the numbers of a particular group (non catholic) compared to the numbers of another representative group (catholic) then the differences aren’t as large as thought. Some even seem to indicate that for the specific class of people (priests), versus those of another class in a comparable position of religious authority priests win the abuse likelyhood. Theres too many unquantifyable factors that might effect the actual numbers.

One major difference though is the way the hierarchy of the catholic church is set up. It’s no “secret” that the Catholic Church is/was very secretive and uncooperative in convicting priests for these crimes.

Many organizations are constantly being sued because of the behavior of their so called members. Again it only seems the Catholic Church as an institution is sued more because of the way it’s hierarchy is set up. If an act of abuse may be shown to be committed by a person during the carrying out of the duties an institution has given that person and it can be shown that the representatives could have reasonably prevented(not reshuffling abusers to abuse again) said crime and or be shown to cover up or in some way prevent the punnishment of the perpetrator ,suppression of records for instance, then the institution becomes fair game for a suit. It’s much harder to prove that a Protestant group as an institution with complicity by the leadership does the same thing.
…again, you are claiming things of the past with regulations of the present… you are condemning the Church for what she did when society did close to nothing for the same offenses–just recently, case after case of sexual abuse has been brought up against various agents, how many of those recent cases have been involving Priests? How many of those Priests have been shuffled about? Reason gives out when charging the Catholic Church; conversely, of sexual abuses by teachers (all school systems), how many schools/universities/colleges have been sued and been plastered in the media?

Not a defense. Reality.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
  1. Continuing the birth metaphors, “science” as a means and a system miscarried in China, India, and the countries dominated by Islam (including later India). Refuting Jared Diamond’s geographical determinism, these cultures shared all of the advantages supposedly held by Western Europe yet did not develop the scientific method and sustained indigenous technological innovation.
I. In China, repeatedly the Mandarin-Confucian elite would suppress technological innovations to preserve the status quo of the Middle Kingdom and prevailing Buddhist and Taoist philosophies further stifled inquiry into the natural world by believing it was illusionary or utterly inexplicable and unexplainable.

II. In India the dominant Vedic religions (like Buddhism in China) disdained the here and now world as illusion and of no importance.

III. Finally, in the lands of Islam, the Koranic idea that God (Allah) was not bound by any idea of consistency in his own actions, including the created universe, meant that any method which examined the natural world as being amenable to rational inquiry because it WAS predictable and lawful was repeatedly suppressed by religious-political authorities.
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Excellent Post series!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Hi Austere,
The objections you have encountered have been around for years. Professional historians of science–especially of Medieval Science–utterly reject and even mock the view of the books you cite.

Among the many here are some sources including the Cambridge History of Science:

Marcia L. Colish, Medieval Foundations of the Western Intellectual Tradition: 400-1400. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997

David C. Lindberg and Michael H. Shank, eds., Medieval Science, vol. 2 of The Cambridge History of Science. 8 vols. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2013

David C. Lindberg, The Beginnings of Western Science. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1992

Edward Grant, Foundations of Modern Science in the Middle Ages. NY: Cambridge University Press, 1996

Ronald L. Numbers, ed., Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths about Science and Religion, Harvard University Press, 2010.

Some quotes. The one in bold is hilarious.

“Western civilization was created in Medieval Europe. The forms of though and action which we take for granted in modern Europe and America, which we have exported to other substantial portions of the globe, and from which we indeed cannot escape, were implanted in the mentalities of our ancestors in the struggles of the medieval centuries.”
[George Holmes, ed., *The Oxford History of Medieval Europe. New York: Oxford University Press, 1988, p. v]

“Indeed, it was in the early middle ages that the Europe we have inherited was formed.”
[Rosamund McKitterick, ed., *The Early Middle Ages. New York: Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 249]

Historians of science David C. Lindberg and Michael H. Shank note how Carl Sagan, Professor of Astrophysics at Cornell and an avowed atheist, in his famous popularization of science entitled Cosmos (1980) includes a timeline from the ancient Greeks to the year 2000. Nothing is listed for the Middle Ages. The caption ends referring to the Middle Ages: “The millennium gap in the middle of the diagram represents a poignant lost opportunity for the human species.” (335) Lindberg and Shank comment in their introduction: “The timeline reflected not the state of knowledge in 1980 but Sagan’s own ‘poignant lost opportunity’ to consult the library of Cornell University, where he taught. In it, Sagan would have discovered large volumes devoted to the medieval history of his own field, some of them two hundred years old. He would also have learned that the alleged medieval vacuum spawned the two institutions in which he spent his life: the observatory as a research institution (Islamic civilization) and the university (Latin Europe).
[David C. Lindberg and Michael H. Shank, eds., *Medieval Science, vol. 2 of The Cambridge History of Science. 8 vols. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2013, II: 10]

Harvard economist David S. Landis in an interesting chapter entitled “The Invention of Invention” says of the Middle Ages that it was “one of the most inventive societies that history had known.” He goes on to say “Some may be surprised: for a long time one saw these centuries as a dark interlude between the grandeur of Rome and the brilliance of the Renaissance. That cliché no longer holds in matters technological.” He cites the advancement or invention of the water wheel, eyeglasses, the mechanical clock, and gun powder. In conclusion he observes: “Important in all this was the Church as custodian of knowledge and school for technicians.”
[David S. Landes. *The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some are so Rich and Some so Poor. NY: W.W. Norton & Company, 1999, p. 45, 58]

A good example Medieval interest in science is Gerbert of Aurillac (945-1003). A monk and later ordained a priest, he explored and spread the tradition of the classical liberal arts especially logic. In 967 he traveled to Northern Spain to study mathematics and astronomy. He appears to have sought out some Muslim mathematicians and astronomers further south in Cordoba and Seville from which to learn. He returned to northern Europe to teach and promote all he had learned in these subjects including the importance of Hindu-Arabic numerals—indeed he was the first Latin author to teach math using them. His friend and patron was Otto III the Saxon emperor. In 999 he was elected Pope and took the name Sylvester II. Lindberg points out that “it is clear that Gerbert used his influential posts as teacher and church dignitary to advance the cause of mathematical science in the West.” [Lindberg, *Beginnings, p. 190]
 
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jcrichton:
Greetings my friend. I hope I may consider you a friend. There is so much animosity in this world, within the “church” and without.
The problem lies not just with perception but also with reason.
Are you saying my perception of the church is wrong because of my faulty reasoning? Or is my reasoning wrong because my perception of the church is faulty? I gathered my perception of the Roman Catholic church from my own experience of her behavior within my own lifetime. This then was the motivating factor which caused me to seek to consider this with respect to what Christ would desire of me to do. For I desire to follow God’s truth. Even within the framework of my own failures. This then caused me to retroactively learn about its history. What I’ve found so far is an entity which seems more concerned with her position in the world than with its standing in Gods eyes. I may be wrong. So far I’ve only experienced obfuscating ideas, layer upon layer of esoteric information, and subterfuge from all sides , protestant and catholic, which seems far removed from the simple beauty of the teachings of Christ to those who have had an eye to see, and an ear to hear.
The Church Founded by Christ and Guided by the Holy Spirit is inerrant.
I would say rather that the foundation upon which his church is built is inerrant. His “church” not being an entity separate from the members it is made up of, which are fallible, is herself fallable in this sense. It is only an idealized statement to say the Church is infallible. It is the ideal state of the church to be inerrant in that all of the members which brings her into existence are themselves inerrant. Sadly this is not the case. It is only the churches founding principles which are inerrant. The Holy spirit guides her members infallibly based upon the churches inerrant founding principles-God’s revelations. This of course does not mean that the churches members will follow the spirits guiding, infallibly. Unfortunately.
The Church, which is made up by fallible men (and women) does not exist only in a Spiritual realm but also in the temporal world.
You speak as if the church is not her members. By definition the church is her members. A fellowship of those who believe in Christ. No members, no church. No church, nothing for anyone to be members of. Yes there is a spiritual and a physical aspect to men (and women). This fact gives the church it’s qualities. Her temporal quality allows for the physical aspects of her members. However, man’s spiritual qualities depending on if you believe they are an integral part of the makeup of man’s nature are themselves temporal lest man have the eternal qualities of God apart from his creation. Because man was created so we’re all the qualities which make up his nature which makes him man.
Those agents which are fallible and reside in the temporal plane have and do commit errors.
As I’ve said, those “agents” are the church. Because of this the church itself can only have their qualities.
Atheist and anti-Catholic “Christians” do assault the Church because to both she is a hindrance to their perceptions and beliefs–still, since her members are fallible, even many from within the Church find her to be a hindrance to the liberties they prefer to enjoy with non-Catholics Believers and atheists.
I absolutely agree. I’m only concerned with whether “their” so called assault has merit.
The Church Founded by Christ and Guided by the Holy Spirit Continues in her Duty to Live the Gospel and to Preach to the world the Sound Doctrine of the Faith–in this she, the Church, does not err.
This is my concern, because of the way you’ve defined the “Church”, I can only conclude that she has erred. You don’t apologize for not erring. The pope apologized on behalf of the behavior of the whole church. Not on behalf of just a few of its members. Why? Because the behaviors he apologized for stemmed from the actions of the magisterium’s behavior which itself was presumably based upon their understanding of the doctrine which they themselves were the interpreters of for the faithful. The laity began to see the clergy as infallible. By having a blind unwavering prideful belief that the church cannot be wrong because she is being led infallibly by the Holy spirit through the magisterium her members may have unwittingly allowed these evils to happen or be prolonged.

God bless you and lead us into his truth.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
greetings my friend. I hope i may consider you a friend. There is so much animosity in this world, within the “church” and without.
I concur. Yet, animosity is not a sign of a Christian–the sign of a Christian is love; to make myself an enemy (even to those who may hold me as such) to others would be tantamount to negating Christ. So, on this i join with you, friend.
Are you saying my perception of the church is wrong because of my faulty reasoning? Or is my reasoning wrong because my perception of the church is faulty? I gathered my perception of the roman catholic church from my own experience of her behavior within my own lifetime. This then was the motivating factor which caused me to seek to consider this with respect to what christ would desire of me to do. For i desire to follow god’s truth… What i’ve found so far is an entity which seems more concerned with her position in the world than with its standing in gods eyes. I may be wrong. So far i’ve only experienced obfuscating ideas, layer upon layer of esoteric information, and subterfuge from all sides , protestant and catholic, which seems far removed from the simple beauty of the teachings of christ to those who have had an eye to see, and an ear to hear.
Language is fluid, but thought does not always translate as translucid as we think it does… I am speaking of general perception and the faculty of man to inject personal bias into things unknown/mistrusted. That bias more often then not prejudices the understanding/study of the unknown/mistrusted object.

Remove the error from the Church and you have Heaven on earth–only the Holly Spirit.

Remove the Church history and you may have Islam as your only choice of belief.

Christ walked about and Taught Truth. He was Crucified. He Returned to the Father and sent the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit then Developed Christ’s Church (which is made up of both the Spiritual–Christ and the Holy Spirit–and the temporal man).
I would say rather that the foundation upon which his church is built is inerrant. His “church” not being an entity separate from the members it is made up of, which are fallible, is herself fallable in this sense… Sadly this is not the case. It is only the churches founding principles which are inerrant. The holy spirit guides her members infallibly based upon the churches inerrant founding principles-god’s revelations. This of course does not mean that the churches members will follow the spirits guiding, infallibly. Unfortunately.
Issues arouse, right from Scriptures, where St. Paul’s teachings were being question; the Holy Spirit, working in the Church, pronounced through St. Peter the following:
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. (2 St. Peter 3:15-16)
Though the Apostles did not cease being human and subject to sin, the portion of the Body of Christ that is inerrant claimed the Truth of Faith: the Writings of the Apostles are the Word of God.
You speak as if the church is not her members. By definition the church is her members. A fellowship of those who believe in christ. No members, no church. No church, nothing for anyone to be members of. Yes there is a spiritual and a physical aspect to men (and women). This fact gives the church it’s qualities. Her temporal quality allows for the physical aspects of her members. However, man’s spiritual qualities depending on if you believe they are an integral part of the makeup of man’s nature are themselves temporal lest man have the eternal qualities of god apart from his creation. Because man was created so we’re all the qualities which make up his nature which makes him man.
No. I speak as what is understood by Catholicism the Mystical Body of Christ, the Church, is made up of both the Divine (Jesus and the Holy Spirit) and the mundane (man). However, as you have attested, man does not always obey God as he strays from God’s Commandments.
As i’ve said, those “agents” are the church. Because of this the church itself can only have their qualities.
…but that’s just it: the Church has both the agents of flesh (man) and God in her makeup.
I absolutely agree. I’m only concerned with whether “their” so called assault has merit.
This is where perception and reason come into play: the Galileo incident is a clear example since Copernicus theory (which Galileo borrows) is had the approval of the Church–yet the incident is still used to foment the false belief that Church is guilty of hindering science and and progress.
This is my concern, because of the way you’ve defined the “church”, i can only conclude that she has erred. You don’t apologize for not erring. The pope apologized on behalf of the behavior of the whole church. Not on behalf of just a few of its members. Why? Because the behaviors he apologized for stemmed from the actions of the magisterium’s behavior which itself was presumably based upon their understanding of the doctrine which they themselves were the interpreters of for the faithful. The laity began to see the clergy as infallible… her members may have unwittingly allowed these evils to happen or be prolonged.
God bless you and lead us into his truth.
The best I can offer you is that the Church is not wrong in matters of Faith; while, those who make up her temporal portion can and have gone astray in temporal matters.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
  1. Continuing the birth metaphors, “science” as a means and a system miscarried in China, India, and the countries dominated by Islam (including later India). Refuting Jared Diamond’s geographical determinism, these cultures shared all of the advantages supposedly held by Western Europe yet did not develop the scientific method and sustained indigenous technological innovation.
I. In China, repeatedly the Mandarin-Confucian elite would suppress technological innovations to preserve the status quo of the Middle Kingdom and prevailing Buddhist and Taoist philosophies further stifled inquiry into the natural world by believing it was illusionary or utterly inexplicable and unexplainable.

II. In India the dominant Vedic religions (like Buddhism in China) disdained the here and now world as illusion and of no importance.

III. Finally, in the lands of Islam, the Koranic idea that God (Allah) was not bound by any idea of consistency in his own actions, including the created universe, meant that any method which examined the natural world as being amenable to rational inquiry because it WAS predictable and lawful was repeatedly suppressed by religious-political authorities.
Wow, that is certainly quite an impressive list of individuals and their achievements. I wonder though, did they make these discoveries because they were Catholic, or were these discoveries made because they were remarkable individuals? If the Catholic church wishes to claim the achievements of these individuals because of the culture it fostered then should she also claim the evils perpetrated by her other members as her own achievements due to the fostering of this same culture? What is the difference when attributing individual achievements as the achievement of the whole institution? It all just seems like a bit of linguistic sophistry to me rather than unbiased historical reporting. On both sides of the issues. Everyone has an agenda and sometimes this agenda becomes more focused on than the Greater good it purports to defend. There then arises the danger of losing the good altogether.
Also how can I objectively rely on records which were kept by the very institution which itself is being questioned? It is beyond me why anyone would think such an institution in such a position would not skew history to put herself in a more flattering light.
Rarely does an entity put in charge of its own judgement convict itself rather than justify itself in such a position.
Blessing be upon you and yours.
 
The point is not that medieval Catholic Europe included “remarkable individuals.” (And logically, medieval China, as a bigger and much more populous area, would have included many more remarkable individuals than Europe could have dreamt of.)

The point is that medieval Catholic Europe included multiple religious school systems, and finally a university system and secular schooling systems, which were all designed to create lots of knowledgeable, well-rounded individuals who all could understand and use logic. Using logic and experience to understand nature, which was the work of God, meant that you could better understand and praise God. Practical applications of new scientific principles would benefit humanity and also praise God. There was as much incentive to do science as to study the Bible. Monks especially did a lot of craftwork; so it was natural for them to find engineering applications, especially if they helped with a monastery’s farming or other income sources. (Like the Cistercian ironworks.)

You didn’t have to be a “remarkable individual” to create a breakthrough in medieval Catholic Europe. You just had to keep your eyes and your mind open, and then tell people about it. And there were lots of other people you could tell, by word of mouth or by letter, because they all went to the same kinds of schools that you had gone to.

Chinese schools were designed to teach people to write essays within the official rules of essay-writing, to write poems within the rules of official poetry, and to become bureaucrats. If you could pass the bureaucrat exams by writing the correct kinds of essays and poetry, you had a job for life. Now, some Chinese bureaucrats did use their spare time to invent stuff or observe stuff, but it just wasn’t the desired thing. And sometimes it was politically dangerous. At all times, there was little incentive to pass along knowledge to normal people and craftsmen, unless there was an obvious war application.

Here’s another big difference. Medieval monks and friars loved to make sermons about the latest technical developments in ordinary life. For example, St. Albert the Great spends a lot of time in his book on the Valiant Woman of Proverbs 31, talking about the newest kind of rudder for ships, and what kind of moral lessons you could draw from it. (Because the Valiant Woman does international trading, and the goods are carried on ships. This gives St. Albert an excuse to talk about all sorts of things, including comparing pirates on the sea to demons in the seas of life.)

This was not usually the kind of aesthetic that Chinese writers were interested in…
 
Wow, that is certainly quite an impressive list of individuals and their achievements. I wonder though, did they make these discoveries because they were Catholic, or were these discoveries made because they were remarkable individuals? If the Catholic church wishes to claim the achievements of these individuals because of the culture it fostered then should she also claim the evils perpetrated by her other members as her own achievements due to the fostering of this same culture? What is the difference when attributing individual achievements as the achievement of the whole institution? It all just seems like a bit of linguistic sophistry to me rather than unbiased historical reporting. On both sides of the issues. Everyone has an agenda and sometimes this agenda becomes more focused on than the Greater good it purports to defend. There then arises the danger of losing the good altogether.
Also how can I objectively rely on records which were kept by the very institution which itself is being questioned? It is beyond me why anyone would think such an institution in such a position would not skew history to put herself in a more flattering light.
Rarely does an entity put in charge of its own judgement convict itself rather than justify itself in such a position.
Blessing be upon you and yours.
Wow… you do miss the forest for the trees–the statement is made that the Church hinders science and progress vs. the reality that Priest, Monks, and Religious have facilitated if not personally executed evidential acts that have not furthered science and progress but outright made it possible along with others and even prior to others.

…and as far as your accusations… show me how the Church erases factual acts demonstrating the various scientific contributions and inserting the names of some of her members in the place of the “actual” contributors?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
From which country and/or culture did the steam engine emerge?

Where was the electric light bulb invented?

Where was the electric motor invented?

What was the origin of penicillin?

Where were railroads first installed?
 
Important and very readable book.

Buy it:

“Science Was Born of Christianity – The Teaching of Father Stanley L. Jaki”

by

Stacy Trasancos

The author has a Ph.D. in Chemistry from Penn State University. She recently received a M.A. in Dogmatic theology from Holy Apostles College and Seminary. Since 2003, she has devoted herself to raising her children with her husband in New England. She is Editor-in-Chief of Catholic Stand.

This book is based on the teaching of Stanley L. Jaki, a priest of the Benedictine order and a distinguished professor at Seton Hall University. He held doctorates in both physics and theology and spent his academic life researching the philosophy and history of science. He wrote more than 50 books and 400 articles during his career and received many honors and awards. Because he was a leading thinker in areas at the boundaries of science and theology, Fr. Jaki was awarded the Templeton Prize in 1987 and was appointed an honorary member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences in 1990 by Pope St. John Paul II.
 
  1. Being literary types themselves, Voltaire, Gibbons, etc… (and their later sycophants, including HG Wells and Mark Twain) identified literary culture as the identifying characteristic of civilization; No writings=no civilization.
Great article Lion. Thanks

Do you have your article on a website ?

Those critics of the Church should have asked themselves which Church developed the cursive writing we use today ?

Charlemagne, a.k.a. Charles the Great.
In order to promote learning and the copying and distribution of books Charlemagne brought in the best scholars from all around in civilized world to find the quickest and most easily written script. The common handwriting style that we use today is named after him, Carolingian minuscule. By standardizing a quickly written easily read style he greatly enhanced his goal to help the monks to distribute more Bibles throughout his empire.
**Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History …
**

In each chapter, Stark takes on a well-established anti-Catholic myth,…
  • Instead of the Spanish Inquisition being an anomaly of torture and murder of innocent people persecuted for “imaginary” crimes such as witchcraft and blasphemy, Stark argues that not only did the Spanish Inquisition spill very little blood, but it was a major force in support of moderation and justice.
  • Instead of Pope Pius XII being apathetic or even helpful to the Nazi movement, such as to merit the title, “Hitler’s Pope,” Stark shows that the campaign to link Pope Pius XII to Hitler was initiated by the Soviet Union, presumably in hopes of neutralizing the Vatican in post-World War II affairs. Pope Pius XII was widely praised for his vigorous and devoted efforts to saving Jewish lives during the war.
  • Instead of the Dark Ages being understood as a millennium of ignorance and backwardness inspired by the Catholic Church’s power, Stark argues that the whole notion of the “Dark Ages” was an act of pride perpetuated by anti-religious intellectuals who were determined to claim that theirs was the era of “Enlightenment.”
In the end, readers will not only have a more accurate history of the Catholic Church, they will come to understand why it became unfairly maligned for so long. *Bearing False Witness *is a compelling and sobering account of how egotism and ideology often work together to give us a false truth. amazon.com/Bearing-False-Witness-Debunking-Anti-Catholic/dp/1599474999
We could add another myth:
How the Catholic Church kept the Bible from the people. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon8.gif

To fault the Church in an earlier age for not using the benefits that came with the standardizations that she herself codified at a later time is unreasonable. It was not long ago that people used fountain pins and ink wells.



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Theodoric of Freiberg (c.1250–c.1310) – gave the first geometrical analysis of the rainbow

You’ll also find it interesting that many of those scientists were priests (

Nicene
Thanks for the fantastic list.

I was looking up the history for more details
In keeping with CAF rules the details would be to long, so if it ok with CAF Mod.s i will just list some of the more interesting details here with links that will give more details and links to wiki.

· Theodoric of Freiberg (c. 1250 – c. 1310) YES, he was a Dominican friar … and a theologian and physicist.
He gave the first geometrical analysis of the rainbow
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	**·  		[Thomas Bradwardine](http://www.defendingthebride.com/code/sci22.html#thomas)**  		(c. 1290 –1349) was Archbishop of Canterbury.  		he is often called Doctor Profundus, (medieval epithet, meaning "the  		Profound Doctor"). … 
	He was one of the scholars at Merton College 
	The mathematical physicist and historian of science  		Clifford Truesdell, wrote: 		[ 		 		[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bradwardine#cite_note-3)
	The now published sources  		prove to us, beyond contention, that the main kinematical properties of  		uniformly accelerated motions, still attributed to Galileo by the  		physics texts, were discovered and proved by scholars of Merton  		college.... 
	 
	**·  		[Nicole Oresme](http://www.defendingthebride.com/code/sci22.html#nicole)**  		(c.1320–1382) – 14th-century bishop who theorized the daily rotation of  		the earth on its axis … and probably one of the most original thinkers  		of 14th-century Europe.[5]…


	**·  		[Georgius Agricola](http://www.defendingthebride.com/code/sci22.html#georgius) 		** (1494 –1555) was a German Catholic, scholar and scientist.  		Known as "the father of mineralogy"… He was also elected burgomaster of  		Chemnitz. 
	(But do to the Protestant anti-Catholic violence of  		that time)
	he was forced to resign his office. …


	**·  		[Giovanni Alfonso  		Borelli](http://www.defendingthebride.com/code/sci22.html#giovanni)** (1608 –1679) was a Renaissance Italian  		physiologist, physicist, and mathematician. … eventually earning him the  		title of the Father of Biomechanics.
	Queen Christina of Sweden who had also been exiled  		to Rome for converting to Catholicism. 
	Borelli lived the rest of his years in poverty, teaching basic  		mathematics at the school of the convent where he had been allowed to  		live. The publication of his work was financed by Christina and his  		benefactors at the convent.
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Hello my friends, I have asked this question due to the fact the implications contained herein have caused a great deal of uncertainty for myself. This has more or less occurred due reading what one could describe as a scathing unrelenting dissection and criticism of Rodney Stark’s book The Victory of Reason by Andrew Bernstein.The essay is titled The Tragedy of Theology: How religion created and extended the Dark Ages and was a rational, extensive essay with a multiplicity of sources. Needless to day, it has caused me to question the Medieval Church’s methods of promoting science, if it is even noted as a promoter of scientific inquiry and investigation. I have very reason to believe the Church did such sponsoring but in wanting to believe this, I do not wish to drift into an idealistic rendition of the Church’s involvement in promoting science. If I am ever presented with the situation that I have to defend the Church for creating and extending the Dark Ages in Europe, knowing well it did as the assertion implies, I wish to have the intellectual fortitude to concede that point. Needless to say, if any of you can provide refutations to the notion the Church was anti-scientific during the Dark Ages, please do. I do not wish to be appear as being in contention with the Church, but in saying that, the Church either leaves scarps or a feast to which we must explain and/or defend. Thank you for reading.
For a start, there were no Dark Ages. This is an invention by the “Age of Enlightenment” in the 1700s. See what they did there? Age of Dark, vs Age of Light. Star Wars all over. Of course the medieval are not able to respond against this stupidity, but I am. The Dark Ages should go down in the top 10 myths of history. The age of enlightenment should also go down in the top 10 myths of history.
 
For a start, there were no Dark Ages. This is an invention by the “Age of Enlightenment” in the 1700s. See what they did there? Age of Dark, vs Age of Light. Star Wars all over. Of course the medieval are not able to respond against this stupidity, but I am. The Dark Ages should go down in the top 10 myths of history. The age of enlightenment should also go down in the top 10 myths of history.
Hi, Darryl!
…yeah… but wont that take the “feel good” and “accomplished” from those who crowned their ignorance in such terms? :coffeeread::coffeeread::coffeeread:

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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