Did the saints have seizures from praying?

[anon91549587]

Is that what they meant by “ ecstasy “?
I keep encountering this word when reading about the saints.

Interesting to note , in the new israel365 bible released this year , Numbers 11:25 says that when the spirit rested upon the elders , they spoke in ecstasy as well .

 

[Lee1]

Perhaps some have had something like a seizure but the word ecstasy is used meaning a state of rapture almost.

It’s more like being overwhelmed by unscented fumes of pleasantness, gently swirling waves of mental caresses, I believe. Though some people also smell flowers of various kinds I think. Add to that visions and perhaps sounds floating in and out of consciousness and you might get a sense of how this would differ from a seizure.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Some features of the ecstatic state overlap with symptoms of seizures, for instance the lack of outside awareness, however, persons who have had a seizure rarely remember anything from during the seizure, and if they do remember anything it’s not religious in nature, and they usually just want to go and take a nap.

 

[Dan_Defender]

Ecstasy includes a variety of signs. Some saints flew through the air, some shone brightly, some just went into a trance and had visions, and there are other signs.

 

[anon91549587]

Maybe Moses was in esctasy when he decended the mountain with face all bright and shiny . Hence through a translation error , they made statues of him with horns hahaha.

 

[anon91549587]

Hi Lee1, if i feel a lil intoxicated after praying . Does that count as esctasy?

 

[Lee1]

It might be a little, that’s not the full extent of an ecstasy though. People who have such usually also experience other things too, such as visions perhaps or the sounds of angelic whispers etc. If you experience anything like this you might want to speak to your priest about it. You may even have a chat with your doctor too.

It’s hard for me to say to be honest, it could be simply blood pressure depending on how you’re praying.

The best thing to do is not to dwell on it or seek it as such imo.

If when you pray you start to ‘lose yourself’ in prayer then that could be the lowest stages of such a phenomenon. You’ll know if you have a full blown ecstasy I’m sure.

Also I read about one saint, I don’t remember which, who had an ecstasy whenever seeing a religious icon or crucifix! Now that may sound wonderful but can you imagine living with that? It must have been a little testing in itself I think. We need to be able to function after all.

I hope his helps. God bless.

 

[TK421]

Ecstasy in prayer is a mystical experience that affects the soul.

But since the human soul, mind, and body are all interconnected, what affects the soul will also affect the mind and body, and what affects the mind also affects the soul and body, etc.

So it’s likely that if God chooses to put a soul into ecstasy, such as might happen with a mystic, that you could also observe its effects on the body, even if the origins are supernatural.The angels and saints in Heaven are in a perpetual state of ecstasy from being in the direct presence of God, but not without at all compromising their concentration or state of rest.

 

[guanophore]

No, an ecstasy is not a seizure but a spiritual phenomenon. They may include such experiences mentioned in the New Testament such as speaking in tongues. St. Paul wrote about being “caught up in the third heaven”. Some have had the falling phenomena, as though the body’s ability is so overshadowed by supernatural power that it cannot move. And as mentioned above, a lack of awareness of surroundings. The children of fatima fell on their knees on the rocks and had no pain or aftereffects of kneeling on the rocks for hours. One is present with God, and less present to earthly things.

 

[otrrl]

I know nothing about this subject. The word ecstasy means something else today than it did originally.

If the person having the ecstasy said they were in ecstasy, then I think they should explain it, as it would not be a normal experience.

If the person is described by others as being in that state, then they have to describe it.

I’m not sure that anyone in scripture was in ecstasy, except the writer of Revelation who has visions of some sort. The only thing that I think that qualifies as religious ecstasy is a vision of the supernatural world. Perhaps the three apostles at the Transfiguration were in a state of ecstasy and the writer of Daniel attributes that to him.

Personally, I think ecstasy is a state that can be described by the person who has had the experience. It’s not fundamentally emotional or something due to low blood sugar, etc. I repeat, I know nothing about this subject.